USA Basketball Sux

[Crash]

that's all I have to say, over paid cocky ass punks is what they are... they got what they deserved.

[Fox 6]

I take it they lost? I saw it when Porto Rico was just starting to pull away. Thatss a major upset.

[ZebraRampage]

I'm not surprised. I agree with what Crash said, and I actually find this rather amusing.

[Typhoid]

I just remember that they got there asses handed to them by Italy a while ago.

No offense, but USA losing to Italy by 20 points in basketball, is like Canada being shutout 10-0 by Japan in hockey.


They are a growing joke IMO. They make so much money, and they cant even beat teams that play for potatoes and chickens. Lame.

[Canyarion]

Olympics? :angel:

[Fox 6]

Olympics? :angel:
Yup

[Bond]

If the American people cared enough about our Olympic basketball team we would have the best Olympic basketball team. Obviously the majority of people don't.

[Crash]

I just remember that they got there asses handed to them by Italy a while ago.

No offense, but USA losing to Italy by 20 points in basketball, is like Canada being shutout 10-0 by Japan in hockey.


They are a growing joke IMO. They make so much money, and they cant even beat teams that play for potatoes and chickens. Lame.


did japan beat canada in hockey 10-0 or are you just making a comparison?

[Fox 6]

did japan beat canada in hockey 10-0 or are you just making a comparison?
He's just making a comparison. Lol that would suck so much if we lost to Japan by 10.

[Typhoid]

did japan beat canada in hockey 10-0 or are you just making a comparison?



HAHAHAHA. Thats funny. Japan actually beating Canada 10-0 at hockey. It was a comparison.

I meant things like that should never happen.


I dont think Japan has EVER beaten Canada at hockey, i would look it up, but i dont care enough.

[Crash]

yeah but US never lost a game since 1988... they get kicked out first round... LMAO

[Acebot44]

The team didnt start practicing together until about the end of July and Beginning of August. No chemistry at all! No outside shot. No Defensive guards. No Shaq. No Kobe. No KG. No Veterens. USA doesnt care anymore about olympic basketball.

The rest of the world has teams playing. USA has Richard Jefferson and Carlos Boozer on their Best of the Best team. WTF?

[Professor S]

Tis is a microcosm of how bad basketball in the US has become. The game of today has little to no resemblance to the game that was played even 15 years ago. Its all flash and no substance. When there are teams in the world who know how to play team basketball, and *shock* DEFENSE, the US is bound to lose.

This is why I no longer watch pro basketball. I prefer to watch BASKETBALL, and not a glorified slam dunk contest.

[Joeiss]

Two things, Crash.

1. This belongs in the sports forum. ;)

2. America didn't get knocked out. Top 4 teams out of the 6 in their division go on to the next round (they are playing like a round robin now).

And yes, this American team isn't great because they chose a great team originally, but when everybody except Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson backed out, they chose lack-luster backups. They chose some great 4's and a couple of good 3's, but no quality 1's or 2's (except dwayne wade).

International basketball is played with the shorter three-point line. Basketball America did not capitalize on this. Considering that they have only 1 player on the team who was in the top 50 for 3-point% last season (Jefferson from the Nets, who is defintely not regarded as a quality outside shooter), you knew they would have rough starts, and ends.

Also, since they chose a big team, they should get the ball down low to the post. It is easier in the NBA because of the defensive 3-in-the-key violation, but in international ball, as soon as Tim Duncan or Odom get the ball down low, they automatically have 2 guys guarding them. Then the only option is to pass it outside, but they have no outside shot, hahahaa.

All in all, the american basketball team does suck.

[Typhoid]

1. This belongs in the sports forum. ;)

2. America didn't get knocked out. Top 4 teams out of the 6 in their division go on to the next round (they are playing like a round robin now).

And yes, this American team isn't great because they chose a great team originally, but when everybody except Tim Duncan and Allen Iverson backed out, they chose lack-luster backups. They chose some great 4's and a couple of good 3's, but no quality 1's or 2's (except dwayne wade).

International basketball is played with the shorter three-point line. Basketball America did not capitalize on this. Considering that they have only 1 player on the team who was in the top 50 for 3-point% last season (Jefferson from the Nets, who is defintely not regarded as a quality outside shooter), you knew they would have rough starts, and ends.



The reason that the American team sucks, is because international basketball takes skill and effort.

You cant prance your way up to the hoop and dunk it every time, you need to work for it.

They are getting owned because they are playing like its the NBA, so they try to put on a show, so while they are prancing around not making 3-balls, a team like Italy creeps up and humiiates them.

Shouldnt shorter 3 point lines make it easier to get 3 points? I mean, its closer to the hoop. you know...


And isnt it already in the sports forum? :sneaky:

[Jason1]

If the American people cared enough about our Olympic basketball team we would have the best Olympic basketball team. Obviously the majority of people don't.


While I dont care personally, im sure a lot of people do care. I mean otherwise, why would they have put NBA players in it instead of just college kids?

But yea, its actually quite imbarassing to the country, what happened. That was their first loss in the Olympics since they started using NBA players, and only their 3rd loss all time. Pretty pathetic.

[Acebot44]

The reason why the shorter 3 point line isnt a good thing for the USA is because the skill of a mid-range shot is very rare in the NBA right now.

[Jason1]

The reason why the shorter 3 point line isnt a good thing for the USA is because the skill of a mid-range shot is very rare in the NBA right now.


Oh for god's sake, these guys are multi-million dollar players, the best in the world. Dont give me that garbage about where the lines are or how big the lane is, because its a load of crap and just a stupid excuse.

[Acebot44]

Excuse? I'm not excusing them for the sucky ness, I'm saying why they suck. They can't shoot from Mid-Range. Either we have specialists like Ray Allen, Fred Hoiberg, Brent Barry, and Brian Cardinal who are Jesus from three point range, or we got our big muscly men who dominate the low post. Very few players are consistant in mid range.

International teams ARE better shooters than the Americans. That's obvious. If you shorten the length of the three point line, they'll be raining 3's like nothing. That's how Puerto Rico and Italy beat the US. PR was 8/16 from behind the arc. US was 3/24!

Like Joeiss said, they need to feed it downlow to Duncan because they don't have a Kobe, Mike Bibby, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, or KG on the team to shoot from the outside. Shawn Marion can't do it. Melo doesnt get a chance to do it. AI has horrible FG%. And They arent passing it into the paint enough! Duncan should get a touch everytime. He's a two time MVP.

My Lineup would be for a team that passes the ball:
PG:Wade
SG: They Don't have a player I would put in here but I'll say Lebron James
SF: Shawn Marion
PF: Lamar Odom
C: Tim Duncan

now that I look at the roster I notice that we've got bad 4's and no 2's....

[Bond]

Acebot is 100% right. Why my Bucks traded Ray Allen... I will never know...

[Joeiss]

I hope Allen (aka Jesus, haha) comes to Toronto.. But I highly doubt that.

And yea, their mid to long range shot is terrible.

[Mushlafa]

k i stopped reading the posts in this thread after the first couple... but i would just like to point out the fact that these are not anywhere near the NBA's elite players. The elite players in the NBA wouldnt lose a single game to any of these teams for sure. This collection of players this year playing for the US national team is made up of a few pretty good rookies, some sophmores and some third tier nba players. Many of the good players that were sappose to be on the actual team felt like taking a summer off and decided to drop out of the team after the qualifyers last summer.

[bobcat]

US vs Aust now. Not that i'm a bball fan, but it's a very close game

[TheSlyMoogle]

They're playing Lietuva right now? I've never heard of this country?

They need to stop trying to NBA it up. No one plays that way the rest of the world over.

God we suck.

EDIT: I'm stupid it's Lithuania, not Lietuva.

[Bond]

It's Lithuania...

[TheSlyMoogle]

Yes this I just realized that after more watching. That one announcer must have something in his throat because I swear I heard him say that.

[Fox 6]

Ya I watched the last minute of the game, Man who tought Lithuania could win?

[TheSlyMoogle]

Me. I totally figured they would.

Look at us, we're americans let's jam all the time.

Lituania had good defense though.

NBA superstars just don't have the heart or something.

[Typhoid]

NBA superstars just don't have the heart or something.



I think its called "Skill"

[Joeiss]

To say those players lack basketball skill is a joke. They are amazing, its just that they do not and cannot play as a team. Also, they just have the wrong skills needed for success in international ball.

[TheGame]

US doesn't have its best team out there... the guys out there are not an accurate representation of the best athletes in america. When I saw the final roster I expected them to lose.

If it was the best 12 (american) players in the NBA out there playing, they would be able to run over the rest of the world without trying... Sadly its a team full of players who aren't leaders and young guys. They are going to have to work.

[Mushlafa]

yep thats exactly it. ^^^^

[Fox 6]

Agreed













Yay!! 200th post :D

[Acebot44]

Hmm, if I could make the Dream Team it would be:

C: Shaq
PF: Duncan
SF: Garnett
SG: Kobe
PG: Kidd
B: TMac
B: BDavis
B: BMiller
B: Artest
B: RAllen
B: Mashburn >_>
B: AI

That's the best we could get IMO

[Typhoid]

I dont know what it is with them. ( the USA team) I know its not their absolute best players. But the US has the best players in the world. ( or so we were led to believe) But they are all dazzle and no finish.

They dont shoot enough, they need to take advantage of the 3 point line.

Instead, ( i think vs. Lituania) one guy (US team) had a perfect chance for a 3, and he ran it in to try get the lay-up.

Ok. Listen. Its the olympics. Its not the NBA. Finesse is nothing in Olympic basketball, and frankly, i hate what basketbal (NBA)l has become. Its just a glorified slam-dunk contest most of the time.

Basketball to me, has become a joke. Like I said, its pretty much a slam dunk contest, night after night. I know its about pleasing the fans, but i mean come on. How many times can you see the same thing before it gets annoying?

I would much rather see more 3 pointer attempts than dunks all the time.

Just my rantings anyways. i doubt anyone will agree with them.

[TheGame]

My dream team would be:

C-Shaq
PF-Garnett
SF-T-Mac
SG-Kobe
PG-Kidd
---
B-(C) Duncan
B-(PF) Webber
B-(SF) Vince Carter
B-(SG) Iverson
B-(PG) Davis
B-(G) Francis
B-(F) Ben Wallace

[TheGame]

(This post wasn't up before I started my last)

I dont know what it is with them. ( the USA team) I know its not their absolute best players. But the US has the best players in the world. ( or so we were led to believe) But they are all dazzle and no finish.

They dont shoot enough, they need to take advantage of the 3 point line.

Instead, ( i think vs. Lituania) one guy (US team) had a perfect chance for a 3, and he ran it in to try get the lay-up.

Ok. Listen. Its the olympics. Its not the NBA. Finesse is nothing in Olympic basketball, and frankly, i hate what basketbal (NBA)l has become. Its just a glorified slam-dunk contest most of the time.

Basketball to me, has become a joke. Like I said, its pretty much a slam dunk contest, night after night. I know its about pleasing the fans, but i mean come on. How many times can you see the same thing before it gets annoying?

I would much rather see more 3 pointer attempts than dunks all the time.

Just my rantings anyways. i doubt anyone will agree with them.

I strongly disagree with you. Shooting 3 pointers isn't smart, and I would consider that to be "finesse". The NBA is all about physical play, and dumping the ball in down low. The fact of the matter is that it is better to make a lay up then to miss a 3 pointer. If you are not confident in your shot don't shoot it. :p

The US is the home to the best basketball players in the world also, don't ever get that twisted. The best players on all the international teams are all in the NBA.

As for US loosing in the olimpics... somtimes the "stars" just can't win. Thought everybody would know that from watching the NBA championship. :D

[Mushlafa]

vince carter should be on the dream team for sure..... Man led the last team to gold. It was also agreed upon that he was the best player on that team back then when they played 5 man american for practice with elimination.

The finals was KG vs Vince.... vince won 15-7
Words from KG's mouth went something like this after the game..... "hes on a whole other level" blah blah i cant rmmeber what he said.

uhm... ya im done my useless rambling... GO Canada!

[TheGame]

Look at my attachment... nuff said.

[Bond]

Team USA beat Spain today 102-94 to move into the semifinals. Stephen Marbury had 31 points and 6 3-pointers.

[Acebot44]

So, US won't get gold this year :(

Come on Italy! Beat the crap out of Ginobili!