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Crash 02-25-2007 06:50 PM

Re: How to Kill a Brand
 
Ha, you know very well when cam and I made gametavern, it was two nintendo fanboys creating a multiconsole site.

I have since become a xbox and nintendo fanboy, and sony... well... I'm still thinking about it.

Arrogance will be what brings down sony, if it does come down.

Perfect Stu 02-25-2007 07:45 PM

Re: How to Kill a Brand
 
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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu (Post 207632)
but Nintendo Gamecube was the best system of last gen even though it sold the least...right? right?

...RIGHT?

TheGame 02-27-2007 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu (Post 207649)
...RIGHT?

Don't forget, every company that made a system that has had a average first 3-5 months brand was completly killed. RIGHT?

Perfect Stu 02-27-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame (Post 207663)
Don't forget, every company that made a system that has had a average first 3-5 months brand was completly killed. RIGHT?

*shrug* I assume so...that's the only reason why people would react this way.

I'm just wondering why nobody has yet responded to my question...

BreakABone 02-27-2007 06:43 PM

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I'm just wondering why the expression

The more things change, the more they stay the same is coming to mind....

thatmariolover 03-01-2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu (Post 207667)
*shrug* I assume so...that's the only reason why people would react this way.

I'm just wondering why nobody has yet responded to my question...

I guess because I didn't see the point. You're so quick to point the fanboy finger with only the slightest provocation that generally, it's really not worth wasting the minute it takes to respond.

As for comparing the relative failure of the GameCube to the issues Sony's having with the PS3, I think it's a flawed analysis. One could argue that the Gamecube was their favorite system because they really liked the first party games on it. Whereas, I don't see that anybody could plausibly make a similar debate out of the PS3's software at this point. Most of the really great titles were either cross platform to begin with or are being switched to cross platform development at a steady pace.

Sony hasn't failed yet, they've sold enough systems to keep their head afloat until better software hits. The real question is whether or not they will find that killer app that makes the PS3 irresistible to to the general public. I'm not going to pass judgment, Sony has surprised before and I've no doubt they will again; it's just a matter of the degree Sony surprises and entices the public.

Perfect Stu 03-02-2007 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover
As for comparing the relative failure of the GameCube to the issues Sony's having with the PS3, I think it's a flawed analysis.


The PS3 was launched A FEW MONTHS AGO. How many MUST HAVE 1st party titles did the Gamecube have after a few months? Talk about being quick to point the finger...

Look, I don't need to point the fanboy finger. It's obvious at this point, and that's fine (well not really, it ruined GameTavern but that's another issue). I find it humorous and sad that this forum is no longer willing to discuss both sides of the story.

Typhoid 03-02-2007 08:41 PM

Re: How to Kill a Brand
 
You find it funny the forum wont discuss both sides?

I find it funny the forum has a Zeig Heil attitude towards Nintendo constantly.

thatmariolover 03-02-2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu (Post 207693)
The PS3 was launched A FEW MONTHS AGO. How many MUST HAVE 1st party titles did the Gamecube have after a few months? Talk about being quick to point the finger...

Look, I don't need to point the fanboy finger. It's obvious at this point, and that's fine (well not really, it ruined GameTavern but that's another issue). I find it humorous and sad that this forum is no longer willing to discuss both sides of the story.

I never said that argument was logical either. I gave a response to you, because you got sassy and asked for one.

I just don't get offended by ignorance as much as I do by rudeness. If the Nintendo fanboys were half as confrontational about voicing their beliefs, I'd be calling them down. It's not my job to police everybody and ensure they're objective in their reasoning. I tried that at Funxbox, just ask Bond how well that turned out. Had a community of Xbox fans that really appreciated me on the forums - or at least so they outwardly made it seem so. Until I, the token Gamecube fan on the site was made the new Administrator. Then all hell broke loose.

I've given it up. I'd rather people just voice their opinions and be happy with them, as long as they're not hurting anybody else it's none of my business.

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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 207698)
You find it funny the forum wont discuss both sides?

I find it funny the forum has a Zeig Heil attitude towards Nintendo constantly.

And you take the other path. You don't bother picking a side, as long as you get to insult people along the way. Not that your point is invalid, but the way you present it is less than helpful.

Typhoid 03-03-2007 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover (Post 207700)
And you take the other path. You don't bother picking a side, as long as you get to insult people along the way. Not that your point is invalid, but the way you present it is less than helpful.



Clearly.
Because whatever I will say wont be correct to you.
So it doesnt really matter.
80% of the people on this forom act like young teenagers, and it's getting ****ing sickening.

A forum board is not only about game systems and talking about them, but TALKING about them. Not "talking" about them, and trying to downplay them by sales, or anything of the sort. When did how many systems sold become how good a system becomes?

If this keepsup, It's safe to say I wont continue posting on this forum (Clearly I wont be missed, since the forum is made of fanboys), and I can only assume a few will follow after me.

thatmariolover 03-03-2007 05:13 AM

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You wouldn't be the first to go (obviously), nor would you be the last, as we both know.

Yet the frustrated, including yourself, continue to post here; which suggests that people want things to get better. I just don't see the method you're using doing any good. And if you know that, why continue with it instead of trying something more positive?

Angrist 03-03-2007 06:57 AM

Re: How to Kill a Brand
 
Typhoid to be honest, you are one of the first who come to my mind when I think of people who "act like young teenagers". What's this stuff with always comparing things to relgion and world wars?

Perfect Stu 03-03-2007 12:45 PM

Re: How to Kill a Brand
 
"How to Kill a Forum"

Typhoid 03-03-2007 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrist (Post 207705)
Typhoid to be honest, you are one of the first who come to my mind when I think of people who "act like young teenagers". What's this stuff with always comparing things to relgion and world wars?


Arent you the one who complained about a comic and swore you'd never be back, only to come back?


And those are the easiest things to compare to. Everyone knows that. It's not rocket science, and I would have hoped even you knew that.

DarrenMcLeod 03-03-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu (Post 207709)
"How to Kill a Forum"

hahaha, exactly what i was thinking.


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