you know what's funny... IT STILL WOULDN'T BE CLASSIFIED AS A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER

Walk yourself over to www.nintendo.com and look what genre it's listed as... yes... Adventure... it's an Adventure game so no matter what you call the genre it's an Adventure... and the game is in first person... is it not?

That's where the name FPA came into play... it's NOT a FPS... it's an Adventure game (www.nintendo.com) that is in first person.

so check for yourself, then know your role

I thought i mentioned this in like the first part of this argument. I said they were calling it something differnt to get people OFF THIER BACKS. cuz people were complaining.

They're making the game, they could call it a freaking sports game if they want. If metroid had no guns, and he WASNT walking around not trying to hunt down enemys id see your point. thing is the thing that has ALWAYS classified a FPS, were 2 thigns. first person. and shooter. i mean its in the name. im not arguing what its being named by nintendo. your dead on there, always have been, I'm arguing whether its right to call it that. and from what i seen its not. I see an adventure in Halo, i see an adventure in many other FPS, doesnt mean they're not FPS.


And to be honest, i COULD live with it being called adventure, (still wouldnt think its correct) but i dont like FPA, making a new catagory or name for the style when the style seems to be nothing we havnt seen before. it may have orriginal cocepts. may be a kick ass game. who knows.

And hell, EGM lists it as an Action game.


*shrug*


(sorry bout the double post)

People weren't complaining, they were confused. It is an Adventure game just in 3rd person... it doesn't have to be considerd a new genre, it's just an Adventure in 1st person.

like a 3rd person adventure... it doesn't need to be called a TPA because people already know it's an adventure game... any game in first person, guns or not, is assumed to be a FPS... but Metroid is not. Metroid is an Adventure game... that's in first person.

Samus's main goal is to hunt down and kill everything she sees? Every game on the market that isn't a puzzle game is a RPG, because you are playing the role of a person you take over. But does that mean everything should be called an RPG?

Do you know the difference between an Action and an Adventure game???

Metroid is an Adventure game, if you like it or not... the term FPA was used to explain what it is. It isn't a genre, the "A" in FPA is the genre, the "FP" is just the camera view. A FPS gets it's own genre because a "Shooter" uses those guns that you shoot at the screen with.

and Nintendo makes the game...

and as i stated, they can therefor call it whatever they like.


So if they call metroid a sports game? you just going to swallow it and agree with them?


When metroid first game out, they called it an FPS, straight from retro, the people who are REALLY making it.

people whined thier heads off, even here, or was it ndose? which ever it was at that time i remember people posting like Aw man, i dont want another FPS, theres already plenty of FPS, i want a real metroid game.

nintendo then came out and stated it was an adventure, ah well, just a coinsadence i guess.


And as i said. Adventure isnt as bad. at least its a real genre,


And im still not seeing where your pointing out the difference between this and other FPS. only diff i see you pointing out is nintendo says this and that.

Nintendo wouldn't call it a sports game because it isn't a sports game. They call it an Adventure game because it is an Adventure game. There can't be an "if they called it a sports game" because they didn't.

Nintendo has so many people pimping them in that office that wouldn't give any credit to retro.

I don't remember this at GT or Nintendose


FPA isn't a real genre, like I said in my last post... it's just like a MMORPG, the base of the game is an Adventure... it's just in first person... like the base of an MMORPG is an RPG, it's just Massive Multi-player online


Because you are blind?

The difference between this game and FPS is that this isn't a shooter... it's an Adventure. If a game is in first person (only part of the time), and a guy has a gun, it automatically makes it a FPS? I guess MGS2 is a FPS too then...

How about we have a quick break and then Round #2 will start in a few hours alright guys? That is unless you go on strike...

hey, i have an idea. lets spilt up every thing i wrote into little bits then try to pick it apart, hey that wont get annoying!




only really read the last line. soo.. Are YOU blind? you keep repeating the same thing over and over. son, what makes the game an adventure? you didnt answer it. all you said was ones and fps and ones and adventure.

gee thanks wally, i get it now. :rolleyes:

how is this not a shooter? got a gun, shoot enemys.

so it has a goal. what fps doesnt? halo isnt just running around killing random things. it has a goal. goldeneye, perfect dark. they all have goals.



I tell ya what. why dont ya just wait and play it when it comes out. cuz i garendamtee ya that all thro the game you will be feeling like your playin an fps, not an adventure. oh but wait. nintendo said so that it wasnt. oh my.

hehe. i figured we were on round 3 by now.

sides, im bored, wiating for people to get online so i can play them at nhl2002.

In order for it to be a FPS it has to be a shooter. Now call it whatever you will, but it isnt a shooter. You do shoot in it. But you also shoot in ED, and is not a shooter. Call it what you will, just not a shooter. Or something like a puzzle...you know...

FPA is its description, not a new genre that was created. FPS is classified under shooter. Consider FPA under adventure.

For god sake... Null, maybe if you actually played the demo at E3 you would understand why it isn't just an FPS...

The game isn't an out and out shooter, therwise the controlls would be different. In fact, Retro put auto aim into the game, now what 'real' FPS has auto-aim as standard without an option to turn it off?

Read the impressions from people who have played the game, they say it is reminiscent of the old metroid games, which meas adventure plays an important role in the game, even more so than shooting.

By your logic, Eternal darkness is the same genre as crash bandicoot, because they are both in 3rd person...:rolleyes:

i've read plenty of impressions about it. all talking about the ACTION in it.


now this is getting a bit differnt cuz Game in the middle of the argument changed what he was arguing about.

first he was dead set on FPA. then after visiting nintendos site he says just plain adventure.

I have no problem with adventure.

But if you dont think the game is a shooter your fooling yourself. What will be going thro your mind when your playing? surely not la la la, i'll skip over and do this puzzle, then back to do the other. no, its going to be SHOOT THAT GUY! kiLL HIM!@

I still don't get your argument. What's the difference between an adventure and a first person adventure? If the game was 2D, it would still have the shooting elements in it, but it's not a plain shooter is it? It's a mix of adventure and shooting, just like the MP will be.

You can't compare Halo to MP. First off the controlls for Halo are more geared towards out and out shooting. Retro have purposefully made the shooting element in Metroid simple, such as aleviatin the task of having to accurately aim, so that the player does not have to concentrate on just that. In Super Metroid, the only reason you would shoot and smaller enemies was to gain energy and ammo. If you had full energy and ammo, you could just avoid a confrontation.

There will be more adventure elements in Metroid than your standard FPS. Such as more jumping, going back and forth in previous areas, exploring areas for secret passages etc...

actually the argument never had a point besides that i just didnt like the term FPA. that was pretty much it.


the rest of it was cuz i was bored as hell. was at work. then wanted to play hockey online. but no one was around.