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One Winged Angel 05-30-2003 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
Like Sony's Playstation with CD playing capability? Or Sony's Playstation 2 with CD and DVD playing capability?

Jesus Christ...it's like multi-functioning products are foreign to you. Hey, part of most refridgerators are freezers too! But they'll never sell. Maybe you don't realize that you're using one of the prime examples for multi-functioning products right now: Your computer. I thank GOD that he gave men the ability to use their penises for urinating and making love...because otherwise we might all be bored with it :rolleyes:

Jesus Christ, can't u read? I said GAMING INDUSTRY. That doesn't apply to refrigerators or your penis!

PS and PS2 were able to read DVD's and CD's because their games run on them! No new hardware had to be added on there to perform those functions.

:rolleyes:

Perfect Stu 05-30-2003 05:12 PM

And how is PSP any different than PSone and PS2?

PSone | PS2 | PSP

media: CD, CD/DVD, UMD
storage: memory card, memory card, memory stick

The PSP in architecture won't be any different in relation to the PSone or the PS2. It will read discs...it will connect to a storage device. Sony is simply making discs that can carry games, music and film. *gasp* Just like a DVD! :eek:

And also, since when do you know more about the gaming industry than the market leaders themselves? If they don't cater to your personal interests, that's one thing. Don't buy the damned product. If you honestly think you know what's best for the gaming industry in general and Sony doesn't, you're wasting your ideas here on a message board. You should be leading a company to dominance in the gaming world.

gekko 05-30-2003 05:27 PM

Uhh... Stu? PSP is hardly similar to PS1 and PS2 in any way.

As for personal interests, that doesn't work. If someone wants a PDA that's just a PDA, they can buy one. If they want one that's wireless, they can buy one. If they want one that's also a phone and digital camera, they can buy one. Choice.

If people want to buy a PSP that plays only games, they can't buy one. They must buy everything else that's thrown onto it. No choice.

TheGame 05-30-2003 05:33 PM

Well, I want a PC that only plays games... no windows, no word, no nothing, just pop and play games (for a lower price too of course)... but that isn't gonna happen ;)

Dyne 05-30-2003 05:34 PM

Stu, there's a huge difference between PSX/PSone/PS2/PS"X". PSP is going to be running on juice from the time you leave your house until the time you get back.

Firstly, I looked at the specs for the N-gage. What's talk time? Mediocre. Wanna play Sonic N? How long do you honestly have with a decent amount of talktime? You're going to need a fuel cell with functions like that. Now Sony wants to make this a discman/portable DVD player/gameboy, with a huge ass backlit LCD. L-C-fecking-D. How much time could you run on one of those? If you watch a movie for 2 hours with the LCD, that wouldn't necessarily leave a lot of game time. Plus, batteries are most likely heavy, and good quality ones with lots of juice are going to be that heavy. I have no problems with the storage medium.

I think people are going to have to worry if this will fit into your pocket or not with that size LCD. If you want to make a playstation remake that used analogs, put an analog on the thing. Aren't people going to question what that big thing poking out is?

It's just not a portable idea right now. They might be able to pull it off. But perfectly too? We'll have to see.

gekko 05-30-2003 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by TheGame
Well, I want a PC that only plays games... no windows, no word, no nothing, just pop and play games (for a lower price too of course)... but that isn't gonna happen ;)
It's called a game console. Just like if you only want word, you get a word processor.

And you choose to buy everything that isn't necessary to play games. Windows is required, nothing else.

DeathsHand 05-30-2003 05:50 PM

I personally hope PSP does good just to shut people up...

I mean a lot of people at GT or Ndose or whatever thought Xbox wouldn't stand a chance anywhere (and it's doing about as good as NGC in the US, at least), PS2 sales would be strong at first but then drop off a lot as developers continue to have problems with development and give up or their games suck or whatever, making there be no games worth owning on the system, and that NGC would 'return Nintendo to the glory days of SNES'... Did any of that happen? :confused:

I don't think arguing is gonna change anybody's perspective on anything... People who think PSP stands a chance won't hear the people who think it will fail talking and then say "Y'know what, I think you're right!"... and stuff...

And it's not gonna get anywhere when it comes to the whole extras debate either... Although I personally don't see what's wrong about sticking game systems in with other things, or sticking other things in with game systems... DVD players can play music CDs... Oh no, it's the end of the world! It should stay strictly a movie player! I don't wanna listen to CDs on my DVD player! What the ****!? Why does my CD player have a radio!? I bought it to listen to CDs damnit, not fuzzy quality music and talk/news shows! Damn the world! Damn it all!

:unsure:

Perfect Stu 05-30-2003 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
Uhh... Stu? PSP is hardly similar to PS1 and PS2 in any way.

As for personal interests, that doesn't work. If someone wants a PDA that's just a PDA, they can buy one. If they want one that's wireless, they can buy one. If they want one that's also a phone and digital camera, they can buy one. Choice.

If people want to buy a PSP that plays only games, they can't buy one. They must buy everything else that's thrown onto it. No choice.

And if people want to buy a multimedia handheld, they can. I would rather buy a PSP than a GBA, MD player and portable DVD player. Not very practical or affordable, is it?

Why would someone want a PSP that only plays games when they could have a PSP that plays games as well as other things? You aren't forced to use the other features. If the price is too high, they can buy a GBA. Again, different markets...

Is everyone trying to say that the PSP will be a failure? Because if that's what you want to say, say it. I would simply disagree with you.

TheGame 05-30-2003 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
It's called a game console..
Wow, which game console is compatible with all PC games?

That would be like me telling you to get a GBA if you don't want the other features... but a GBA isn't a PSP game player, just lke with PC games if you want them you want all the baggage that comes with it.

gekko 05-30-2003 05:59 PM

Umm... DVD players can also read CDs because they play VCD. ;)

This is more like a home theater in a box. Put it all together, and none of it is that great. A lot of people prefer to buy individual components, which are generally much better.

Perfect Stu 05-30-2003 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
A lot of people prefer to buy individual components, which are generally much better.
And in this lovely life of freedom they have the opportunity to do so. Sony makes products to appeal to who they want to appeal to, and other companies can do what they please. Something's telling me they haven't done that bad, either...maybe it's the multi-billion dollar empire?

gekko 05-30-2003 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
And if people want to buy a multimedia handheld, they can. I would rather buy a PSP than a GBA, MD player and portable DVD player. Not very practical or affordable, is it?

Why would someone want a PSP that only plays games when they could have a PSP that plays games as well as other things? You aren't forced to use the other features. If the price is too high, they can buy a GBA. Again, different markets...

Is everyone trying to say that the PSP will be a failure? Because if that's what you want to say, say it. I would simply disagree with you.

PSP doesn't play GBA games, you're changing markets here.

People may want to play games on a PSP, and not use it as a crappy PDA. But guess what? You're paying for the PDA. And don't put PSP and affordable in the same sentence, not a good idea ;)

If I want a PDA, I'll buy a PDA (Well, another one anyway). Makes a much better PDA than PSP. If I want a portable DVD player (which PSP is not), I'll buy a portable DVD player. If I want a game system, well, I can't buy PSP, because it would be a waste of money. I'll take my nice and small PDA with me, and if I want to play games, I'll bring along my GBA, and if I want to watch a movie, my portable DVD player.

If I want to make a phone call and play games, I'd rather have a cell phone and GBA. Then when I know I won't be playing games (99.9% of my life), I'll have a much smaller and more practical phone.

gekko 05-30-2003 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
And in this lovely life of freedom they have the opportunity to do so. Sony makes products to appeal to who they want to appeal to, and other companies can do what they please. Something's telling me they haven't done that bad, either...maybe it's the multi-billion dollar empire?
Sony's done this when? Never.

TheGame 05-30-2003 06:06 PM

In the end only ONE feature will make or break PSP, and that's the games. The demand for the other features will forever be secondary... If the games suck, then people willgo elsewhere, if the games are great, people will get the PSP and consider the other features a bonus.

DeathsHand 05-30-2003 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
Umm... DVD players can also read CDs because they play VCD. ;)
I don't like you :(


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