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Null 08-30-2003 02:14 PM

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um. thats kinda the reason theres still an anything.

ppl like it.

only reason theres still an xbox is because some odd millions like it.

TheGame 08-30-2003 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Null
yea, if Xbox and Cube were the only 2 game consoles in existance, i'd still go with cube. As i said, the exclusives mean more to me then the other games.

I dunno... I just don't think you like Xbox period ;)

Xbox has just as many if not more exclusive games than GCN, if they are better or not is up to you. Plus Cube doesn't have an exclusive FPS, and Sega sports would be considerd MS exclusive head up right? Same with MGS2... and online play would be exclusive. (must I repeat myself so many times?)

But anyway... the list of games I would buy for Xbox if it was the only system I owned would be far bigger than Cube's, and far better IMO. I couldn't imagine owning just a cube right now... and even worse, owning just a GCN for this whole generation, I would be going insane. Not to say I wouldn't go insane with Xbox, but I would have a hell of a lot more games I like in genres I like.

Lets say I owned a Cube and an Xbox... for non-exclusive games I wouldn't want the Cube version unless it were cheaper! Cube pretty much never gets a better versiopn of a third party game than Xbox.

I could imagine living with a N64 last generation alone being better than having a cube alone this Gen.

But I'm just walking on the surface of what issues GCN has... for me at least. Cube may or may not be #3 in sales, but imo it's #3 in quality and shelf life... and by far the biggest dissapointment.

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As for the PC having the better version not making up for it being late. Thats true, but as i said. While Halo is very easily the best Console FPS, Its not going to be anywhere near the best PC FPS, PC Users are in no rush or worry to get it. I'ts just like one drop of water in the sea of FPS's
How much you wanna bet it's gonna be one of the better selling PC FPSs? ;)

Null 08-30-2003 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame
I dunno... I just don't think you like Xbox period ;)

I don't, Theres no reason for me to, im not saying you or others shouldnt like it. But for me personally theres no reason for me to like it. It has nothing i want.

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Xbox has just as many if not more exclusive games than GCN, if they are better or not is up to you. Plus Cube doesn't have an exclusive FPS, and Sega sports would be considerd MS exclusive head up right? Same with MGS2... and online play would be exclusive. (must I repeat myself so many times?)
But, no exclusives that i want. As i already said. the only reason for buying the GC, one exclusive game..... Zelda.
Cube doesnt need an exclusive FPS IMO, I hate all Console FPS's. Controls suck. Now if i didnt have a PC, and never played PC FPS's i may not know what i would be missing and perhaps then i'd like the controls, but hard for me to imagine such so i just dont like console FPS games.
Sega sports? i couldnt care less about, IMO EA Sports is better.
online play? once again IMO... Online play for consoles right now is a joke. I expect next gen consoles will iron out many issues but for now. theres absolutly no must have for online play. have to wait and see for GT4 because i've never really played a online racer before.

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But anyway... the list of games I would buy for Xbox if it was the only system I owned would be far bigger than Cube's, and far better IMO. I couldn't imagine owning just a cube right now... and even worse, owning just a GCN for this whole generation, I would be going insane. Not to say I wouldn't go insane with Xbox, but I would have a hell of a lot more games I like in genres I like.
I agree, if i only had a choice of the 2 i would go insane. but my choice would still be GC.

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Lets say I owned a Cube and an Xbox... for non-exclusive games I wouldn't want the Cube version unless it were cheaper! Cube pretty much never gets a better versiopn of a third party game than Xbox.
i find majority of 3rd party games are same on each. but your right. if they tried to optimize them more then likely cube would get the lesser.




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How much you wanna bet it's gonna be one of the better selling PC FPSs? ;)
Ah, you see... one of the better, yes, agreed. I never said it wouldnt be a decent good game. Because it will be, Updated graphics. bug fixes, and same Single player. Plus, a majorly redone and beefed up Online Mulitplayer. And there are many who are looking foward and waiting for it. There are many Xbox owners that have it and are droolling and waiting for that online verion for PC.
The point i was saying, is that there are just so damn many FPS on PC, it doesnt stand out as much as it did on consoles. It is not the easy King of FPS. It will not go straight to number 1. it'll be up in the top 25 FPS's or so.

It woulda done much better had they got it out much earlier. This 4th quarter that its comeing out, gives it much competition and some that greatly overshadow it. Half-Life 2, Unreal Tournament 2004, Theres even great things being said about the new one, Breed. Comparing it greatly to halo. Plus many others, coming out all in the same 4 month period.

On consoles. Halo stands out like a sore thumb and towers above the rest. On PC, It will stand out with many sore thumbs.
But it will be a great game, im not tryin to take anything away from it.

nWoCHRISnWo 08-31-2003 02:23 AM

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This right here times about 4 million is the only reason why there still even is a nintendo.

...Because people like the games on Nintendo systems?

Canyarion 08-31-2003 08:01 AM

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Ehm TheGame you're forgetting the MGS remake for the GC. Ok it's not out yet (pretty soon though?), but at least it's not a port of a PS2 game. :unsure:

Nintendo should have advertised Metroid Prime better... the killer app that nobody knows about. :p

Crono 08-31-2003 08:57 AM

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I haven't played my GCN in months, and probably won't play it until I get Wind Waker. So yes, you could say that I have been disappointed with the GCN, only because there hasn't been much to offer me, and a lot of Nintendo's titles have been disappointing (SMS, AC, SFA, to name a few).

Canyarion 08-31-2003 12:58 PM

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How can Animal Crossing dissapoint you? It's a brand new concept.. unless you heard the stories from Japan and expected more from it even though you had no reference... :)

Bond 08-31-2003 01:06 PM

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Animal Crossing isn't a new concept. It's a little Sims.

Crono 08-31-2003 02:04 PM

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How can Animal Crossing dissapoint you? It's a brand new concept.. unless you heard the stories from Japan and expected more from it even though you had no reference... :)

Um... let's see:
1. It's boring
2. It's boring
3. It's boring
Did I mention the game is boring? I'll admit I liked the concept but it was not executed well enough for me to be impressed. But I'll give Nintendo credit for making something new... but overall I didn't like the game.

TheGame 09-01-2003 04:55 AM

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Ehm TheGame you're forgetting the MGS remake for the GC. Ok it's not out yet (pretty soon though?), but at least it's not a port of a PS2 game. :unsure:

bah... what's wrong with ports? If GCN would have got a port of FFX I would have used it against Xbox. I say it's better to have a killer app then not to.

As for MGS... it isn't out yet... I never said GCN can't make a turn-around ;)

But looking at the line-ups released to this point, I prefer Xbox

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Nintendo should have advertised Metroid Prime better... the killer app that nobody knows about. :p
I think Metriod Prime is boring... I got it for free and took it back for store credit. It's presentation and starting story is weak, and I think that reflected on the sales a lot. Hey, it may be a good game, but it never pulled me in. I think it was advertized just fine... somthing made me pick it over Mario Party and Star Fox Adventures, and I regret that.

As for everybody else

Animal Crossing was good to me because I didn't expect crap from it... but um, seeing it win Awards and be nominated for GOTY is just shocking. It simply wasn't that good. I can see how anybody would be dissapointed by it now with all the hype it's getting.

DeathsHand 09-01-2003 06:56 PM

I'm very dissapointed with NGC too... Though I thought Wind Waker was a great game, and Metroid was also good... the RE games... but beyond that, not much else, IMO... And RE0 was only a rental for me...

Only upcoming game for NGC I'm looking forward to: MGS: TS and RE4...

I'm enjoying NGC less than N64... Nintendo continue's the downward trend... :shakehead

If they don't get their act together and PSP succeeds, I wonder what will happen to Nintendo... hmm *rubs chin*

Personally it'd be better for me if they just went third party... I'm not big on handhelds and I buy their systems mainly for their games... If I could buy Zelda or Metroid on the system I already have, it would save me a lot of money... But I doubt that will happen... at least not for a long time...

Stonecutter 09-01-2003 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion
Ehm TheGame you're forgetting the MGS remake for the GC. Ok it's not out yet (pretty soon though?), but at least it's not a port of a PS2 game. :unsure:

Nintendo should have advertised Metroid Prime better... the killer app that nobody knows about. :p

No, it's not a port of the ps2 game.


...............


It's a remake of the psx game!

TheGame 09-01-2003 07:16 PM

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I'd rather nintendo be a 2nd party... or a third party that makes exclusive games. I couldn't imagine how bad people would have reacted to a game like SMS or AC if it wasn't exclusive to somthing.

I don't like handhelds either, too far behind in technology

Seth 09-01-2003 08:34 PM

I like the cube cuz it has the games I like. I don't buy many games so the number of exclusives the cube has is just right for me.


Kind of miffed about the online thing. I gave my support to nintendo and they spit it back at me for their profit.


But who needs a console when you have the PC anway.

I mean c'mon, Battlefield 1942 anyone?

Null 09-01-2003 08:50 PM

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But who needs a console when you have the PC anway.

I mean c'mon, Battlefield 1942 anyone?


Right on!

Altho there are others i prefer over BF, UT2k4 comes out soon. =D

but yes. on the right track, you be. ;)


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