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ZebraRampage 09-10-2003 03:25 PM

When the girl downloaded the songs, did she even know that they were illegal?

Null 09-10-2003 04:11 PM

Re: RIAA sueing 12 year old girl.
 
honestly a 12 year old girl isnt going to know the law that well. she might of known they were wrong. but then again she might of just thought it was the internet.

From the sounds of it, they got scammed into paying for the free file sharing program and thought since they paid it was a legal version. like some of the pay sites. (itunes for example)

Ace195 09-10-2003 04:26 PM

Re: Re: RIAA sueing 12 year old girl.
 
Well some 12 year olds have quite a grasp on the law and legal system. My little brother knows better than to download music. But still they shouldn't be able to sue for $2 a song. Thats outrageous. I mean if the cd only contained 10 songs it would still be like $14 - $18 dollars. I mean they should break it down to like every ten songs and rate it like that.

Null 09-10-2003 04:47 PM

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im not saying she did or didnt. but most, kids around that age dont fully grasp the legal concept in its intirety.

And they didnt sue for $2 a song. That was a settlement. From what i read they're sueing for a LOT more then that per song. i read in the thousands dollar range.

Jonbo298 09-10-2003 08:24 PM

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I guess the RIAA wanted to try to keep them from looking to harsh on the wee ones. But what respect they have isn't there:D

Happydude 09-11-2003 12:03 PM

Re: Re: Re: RIAA sueing 12 year old girl.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace195
Well some 12 year olds have quite a grasp on the law and legal system. My little brother knows better than to download music. But still they shouldn't be able to sue for $2 a song. Thats outrageous. I mean if the cd only contained 10 songs it would still be like $14 - $18 dollars. I mean they should break it down to like every ten songs and rate it like that.

the settlement was $2,000, i doubt the girl had 1000 songs :unsure: so it's more then $2 per song.

Ace195 09-11-2003 12:47 PM

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Hmm... That be a hella lot of money for just downloading music. When will they ever give up ?

The Germanator 09-11-2003 02:00 PM

The RIAA sues little girls for $2 a song when they price 30 cent CDs for 60 times that amount. Very noble.

Null 09-11-2003 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by happydude666
the settlement was $2,000, i doubt the girl had 1000 songs :unsure: so it's more then $2 per song.


yes, she (or actuall more like the whole family) had 1000 songs.

All 261 people the RIAA sued had over 1000 songs for others to download from them.

Null 09-14-2003 01:51 PM

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../09122003k.php


Music firms have paid the entire fine for the 12 year old girl.

it sounds like many people have chipped in and helped pay it for them.

Thats nice. :)

The Germanator 09-14-2003 02:49 PM

That's cool...I know a similar thing happened earlier when a college student was sued by the RIAA for $12,000 and friendly people ended up giving him all the money back.

Ace195 09-14-2003 10:53 PM

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The musicians piss me off. They or should I say one musician is going to make a song on the mentality of the file sharers.

In a new song, "Something for Nothing," Mr. Wainwright makes fun of the mentality of file sharers, singing: "It's O.K. to steal, cuz it's so nice to share."

They make me sick.

Null 09-15-2003 12:01 AM

Re: Re: RIAA sueing 12 year old girl.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace195
The musicians piss me off. They or should I say one musician is going to make a song on the mentality of the file sharers.

In a new song, "Something for Nothing," Mr. Wainwright makes fun of the mentality of file sharers, singing: "It's O.K. to steal, cuz it's so nice to share."

They make me sick.


its just to get attention.

Actually most Artists dont even care. the musicians themselves make VERY LITTLE off cd sales.

http://www.bidclix.net/ads/79.html?c...&forced_click=
Quote:

Recording artists have watched their record royalties erode over the past few years ("My Van Halen royalties are history," said vocalist Sammy Hagar), but, in fact, few musicians earn the bulk of their income from record sales.

"Bruce Springsteen probably earned more in 10 nights at Meadowlands last month than in his entire recording career," said rocker Huey Lewis.
Quote:

The RIAA did not initiate these lawsuits to defend artists' rights, the musicians say, but to protect corporate profits.

"For the artists, my ass," said Draiman (of Disturbed). "I didn't ask them to protect me, and I don't want their protection."
and many more quotes.

Further more most of the music artists themselves dont like what the RIAA is doing. (they may not believe in filesharing) but they surly dont like the RIAA going around and sueing THIER fans. thats not good for any musician if thier fans get sued.

There was a nice little thing on CNN about it the other night, even CNN says the RIAA wont win, and eventually they will have to use filesharing to help them, instead of fighting it.


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