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You got a thing against the DS don't you?

You always seem to put it down when you post in regards to it, but maybe it's just something I'm picking up, who knows.

How do you figure the DS is mediocore? I mean I'm sure you probably got tons of hands-on with it, correct?

Anyhow, on the subject at hand.

My best guess is that EB and GameStop wanted people to pre-order it, after all the positive buzz it got at e3. So they figured at most it would cost 200 bucks, this way if Nintendo announce it at 200 bucks, they are safe, if they lower it, they just drop the price, but if it was announced at 250 and they had it for 200, they would technically be forced to credit all the people who pre-ordered it at 200.

So I think the 200 is just a safety net, my guess is the DS will probably be around 130-150 bucks, as to not directly compete with the GBA or Cube as the case may be in price.

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I'm wondering....


How is the DS not the next gameboy? How is Nintendo expecting to have a DS and another Gameboy at the same time? Unless the gba stays around forever. Doesn't make sense to me. The DS isn't a substantial 'third pillar'. It's a gameboy with 2 screens. As a consumer I won't buy two new handhelds from the same company.

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I've been pondering this myself the whole time.

How is this not GameBoy DS or Nitro or whatever.

I mean it would be one thing, if it followed it's own little thing, but then they went and made it backward compatible with the GameBoy?

I really do wonder sometimes.

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Agreed, how is the GBA2 gonna appeal to people more than the DS? They are gonna have to have it totaly different, or people will get confused as they have with the DS and the gameboy range!

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Nitro was the code name for the DS. I don't even see a need for a new handheld anytime soon. Though it does beg the question of whether or not future Nintendo handhelds will include the dual screen setup. It would almost seem like a step backwards to return to a single screen.

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Neo.. dude.. I love the name. :D

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ROFL, I love that Neo!

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I highly resent your comment about my feelings about the DS. I've been doing nothing but doing fair comparisons when it came to comparing the two systems. The two handhelds shouldn't even be compared, because obviously the DS is for gaming and the PSP is for entertainment.

But my argument in the matter is that DS is a handheld for gaming purposes, and if they price it at $200 at launch then go back to when the Playstation first came out at $200.... the DS is no Playstation.........So your probably right about the safety net, it'll go down, but I'm just saying.. $200 is way too much for a gaming handheld.

Whilst Sony goes a little higher in price for the other features such as Movies, Music etc.

And I think SONY WOULD be safe going for $200 because not only can they make up for it in game sales, but they can make up for it in UMD sales. People can't play DVD's on it, they'll buy the UMD's out for the PSP.......... SUCH as........ ADVENT CHILDREN.....own4g3!

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Dude, who cares?

And youre right, the DS is no Playstation, its more of an N64 kind of system.

To most people, the PSP will be a gaming console instead of anything else, and most of the people getting it will be like 18-34. I really dont see kids playing the PSP because of their parents not letting them get it for them. I also see a huge price difference on both the DS and PSP. Im thinking around $300 for the PSP and $150-ish for the DS.

And sure there maybe some UMD's for the PSP but I dont think a lot of people will even pay attention to them.

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$200? Nintendo better put their games out at the same price as the PSP then... I hear the PSP is planning for excessively cheap games, no?

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with thier own CD (UMD) they made, and the fact that its cd and not cartridge. they very well possibly could be cheaper

i never heard anything that they're planning that tho.

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I agree with that... the PSP might become more of a young adult-old adult oriented machine. But I highly doubt the UMD movie CD's will be ignored.... especially when you can watch it on a high res small screen anywhere you are.
(hint: The Chubb Institute.)

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well that is the age group sony wants to go for.

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it's the right age group two

everyone from at least 16-up has a job and can afford it without their parents...

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You can resent my comment all you want, I made it, and I pretty much still stand by it.

You say you try your best to compare the two, then in the very next sentence you claim they shouldn't be compared. That is special.

I think 200 bucks is too much for a gaming handheld, but then again we don't know the final price now do we. And for the record, I think it's too much for any type of portable device. I've seen way too many portable devices stolen/lost/misplaced to spend that much money on anything portable.

You say Sony can afford to lose money on the PSP, because they can make up with it on sales for games, movies and music. Now quite honestly, how many people do you think will folk over extra money to buy something on a UMD just to play it on a PSP?

Ok assume, that there is a great backing by companies to use UMD, which I highly doubt, how many people will rebuy movies they own on DVD or WHS for a UMD just to play on a PSP? Heck, I got 4 DVD players and I'm still edgy on buying DVDs of VHSes I own.

And will a UMD movie offer all the bonuses of a normal DVD?

I think you are giving the PSP atleast in that case too much of a benefit of doubt, but you never know.