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But in 30-40 years we will be in hover cars and taking daily trips to the moon and harvesting mars

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Thank you, Dylflon. Typhoid, piss up a rope.

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point taken and a good 1 @ that

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So cannibalism should be legal? Farming humans for organs should be legal? How far are you willing to take that argument?

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The problem with these things is that we don't know the long-term effects. It could be the extinction of our race...

The worst things have been done with the best intentions..

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Well, I don't think it should legal to consume a normal-born but if it was bred for the intention of eating like those cows and chickens, go ahead and let the people eat them who prefer cannibalism.

Until we stop the animal breeding for specific purposes, I'm fine with human breeding also for specific purposes. As far as the value of our life's, I don't consider ours to be any more than that of any other creature.

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frankly, i think that the women who want to abort should rather donate the unborn child to research...no point in wasting a life completly. if someone wants to abort, let them abort but not completly waste it.

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I see it this way. I know that cloning can change the evolutionary way of life..but isn't it true that humans have evolved to have bigger brains giving them more intelligence than any other species? I believe that since this has happened we can't be stopped with what we do because our species will become more intelligent through the years. Of course it might be the end of us, but how would we stop it? You can't just stop at one period of time and say this is it, this is as far as we're going and an example of that is the amish. They still are able to live in this world, but now our world is about productivity, and everything is going faster, and it's all better quality, so what we do is just part of evolution in my mind. We're becoming more intelligent, and yes it will affect our world, and it could be for the worst, but that's what is going to happen, and I don't think we can stop it. I'm not saying that I like the idea of cloning..hell I don't know what I think, but I don't think that we can just say no to it. I hope that this makes sense, because I don't usually explain my opinoins very well..

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well, that's all well and good. it shows what scientific research can do, but i do have to say that some of the things we do for cloning is just not right(IE organ harvesting) but even though it can help us, you'e still taking life away from another human. now if there was a way to preserve one's memories and then clone the person before they die and insert the memories before they died into the 2nd body, then you could practically live forever..just a thought..

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Are you serious? Are you really arguing this?

You can't be. That's the most moronic argument ever that it has to be a joke.

Because we're doing one bad thing according to you, why don't we just go ahead do another completely awful thing. Why not? Two wrongs couldn't be any worse than one.

That's slavery talk. That's almost Hitler talk.

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Meh. Scientifically it's interesting.

Morally, I have to say that embryos aren't capable of thought. The can't have a desire to live or die. They are incapable of sentient thought. Yeah, they might grow into people. But I mean, sperm might join with egg if you weren't using condoms.

It's all where you draw the lines. I'm perfectly comfortable with embryos being used.

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Um. Its not Hitler talk. OR Slavery talk.

In a way, he has a good point (GM)

We breed animals and such for food, and for lab testng, why see it as a travesty when its with humans? Were all animals.

Cloning or stem cell research doesnt affect me, so im perfectly fine with it. Plus liking of new sciences and descoveries, i like the idea. It lets us learn and descover new things, and im all for that.

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Once you say breeding humans for food and lab testing, you're talking about exactly what Nazi Germany did. They did horrendous lab testing on humans they deemed less than human.

If you're against breeding animals for food and science, then fine. But saying it should be done on humans is outright ignorant.

What you're talking about is taking away fundamental human rights, you would be making a whole race of humans that would be less than human. That's exactly what slavery is, except in this case it's worse because you'll be lab testing them and eating them. Slavery America as far as I remember at least never did that.

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As much as I see what you're trying to say GameMaster, I have an opposite approach to it. Animal testing/breeding should be as illegal as it is for humans. Human testing/breeding shouldn't be as legal as it is for animals.

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I think he was trying to make a point. If ones legal why not the other. Or if ones illegal, why is the other legal.

But yeah, i say either both, or none.