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GameMaster 11-23-2004 09:24 PM

Re: Xbox 2 will run the tables
 
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Originally Posted by Joeiss
is it just me, or are a large majority of GM's posts useless?

Well I remember at Good Guy's a few years ago they had this goggle headset thing for a Playstation where you peer into it or wear it and you could see the game. It was nice because I couldn't see anything else but the screen so it felt cooler playing the game and I was able to focus better. It was probably some third party product but I still liked it.

Null 11-23-2004 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster
Well I remember at Good Guy's a few years ago they had this goggle headset thing for a Playstation where you peer into it or wear it and you could see the game. It was nice because I couldn't see anything else but the screen so it felt cooler playing the game and I was able to focus better. It was probably some third party product but I still liked it.

they've sold thoes for a while. you can actually plug a TV into thoes and put the headset on and watch TV with em. lol

they were expensive as hell last time i check tho. some going up over $1000

Swan 11-23-2004 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Null
they've sold thoes for a while. you can actually plug a TV into thoes and put the headset on and watch TV with em. lol

they were expensive as hell last time i check tho. some going up over $1000

Really, imagine, you could be in the pron...I mean...in the, uh, blast! what do kids watch nowadays. The flimpsons?

*runs off*

Canyarion 11-24-2004 02:54 AM

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You talking about Sony's Triniton??

And Stu, I meant what I said and no, I'm not really jealous. :)

Perfect Stu 11-24-2004 04:51 AM

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who said you were jealous?


sounds like someone's trying to hide something...some jealousy, maybe? :cool:

TheGame 11-29-2004 08:51 PM

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*slaps everyone who said Halo1 is identical to Halo 2*

As for people getting 'sick of this crap' I haven't seen anything but growth in the games with a ton of sequals that stay true to what made the original fun.

Ginkasa 11-29-2004 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame
*slaps everyone who said Halo1 is identical to Halo 2*

As for people getting 'sick of this crap' I haven't seen anything but growth in the games with a ton of sequals that stay true to what made the original fun.


Implementing a feature done 6 years ago (dual wielding; Goldeneye...and it might have been done perhaps even before that), and sticking in a car jacking feature is hardly enough to make the game "non-identical." Its fun, but hardly new.

However, I also think that franchises are allowed to pretty much redo the original game once before really doing something new with the license so...


*shrugs and walks away*

DarkMaster 11-29-2004 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Link1130
Implementing a feature done 6 years ago (dual wielding; Goldeneye...and it might have been done perhaps even before that), and sticking in a car jacking feature is hardly enough to make the game "non-identical." Its fun, but hardly new.

Wow, ok you either haven't played the game, or you missed everything as you went through.

And in those basic terms you use, pretty much every FPS is indentical. The only thing that really sets them apart is design and style.

Perfect Stu 11-29-2004 10:12 PM

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I'm betting big bucks that Link has either NEVER touched Halo 2, or played it in a very limited amount of time.

Point? dont even try to judge the game

I havent played it, and I wont.

Ginkasa 11-29-2004 10:18 PM

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*has it sitting on his XBox*
*is very far into the single player game*
*feels sorry for Stu's big bucks*

I still think it is very similar to Halo. Single player anyway; perhaps multiplayer has more new stuff than...some other game... The single player, however, has very little different from the original.

But like I said, a series is allowed to redo a game once, IMO, before it starts to get stale. I have no problem with Halo 2 being similar to Halo, just people who like to claim its not.


*shrugs and walks away*

Perfect Stu 11-29-2004 10:35 PM

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why'd you buy the game?

Null 11-29-2004 10:38 PM

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Prolly to try the game, perhaps he thought he'd like it.

not everyone is blessed with the magical ability to see if games are good or not before buying.

Jonbo298 11-29-2004 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
why'd you buy the game?

Because of this thing called Hype ;)

Ginkasa 11-29-2004 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
why'd you buy the game?

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But like I said, a series is allowed to redo a game once, IMO, before it starts to get stale. I have no problem with Halo 2 being similar to Halo, just people who like to claim its not.
*sigh*

Besides, I don't actually own the original Halo (I only rented), so its not like I bought something I "already have."


*shrugs and walks away*

TheGame 11-30-2004 02:54 PM

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Link... I think Halo 2 added MORE than enough to be worthy as a good sequal. I think your problem is you didn't play the first Halo enough. You'd be shocked how many little things you can do in Halo 2 that can't be done in the first Halo. And yes, the gameplay changes aren't extreme, but there is so many little changes everywhere that it hardly feels the same. After you beat Halo 2, rent the first again and beat it... there is much more there than car jacking and dual weilding.

As for adding features that have been in older FPSs... why should that matter? The first Halo got very high marks without those features. Halo made the jump from being a good console FPS in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark's leauge to now being the best home console FPS ever made (imo... and in the opinion of pretty much all the reviewers I've seen)

DarkMaster 11-30-2004 03:04 PM

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Link, play Halo2 on xbox live if you can. The single player is fun, but the online is freakin awesome.

Ginkasa 12-01-2004 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGame
Link... I think Halo 2 added MORE than enough to be worthy as a good sequal. I think your problem is you didn't play the first Halo enough. You'd be shocked how many little things you can do in Halo 2 that can't be done in the first Halo. And yes, the gameplay changes aren't extreme, but there is so many little changes everywhere that it hardly feels the same. After you beat Halo 2, rent the first again and beat it... there is much more there than car jacking and dual weilding.

I played Halo. I beat Halo. I replayed some of the levels several times. No, I didn't go over and over it again, but I shouldn't have to do that to notice the "little changes" that apparently differentiate the sequel so much from the original. I believe I played Halo enough (and not all that long ago, either) to be able to notice anything that would make the gameplay experiences hardly the same. I just don't see it.


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Originally Posted by TheGame
As for adding features that have been in older FPSs... why should that matter? The first Halo got very high marks without those features. Halo made the jump from being a good console FPS in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark's leauge to now being the best home console FPS ever made (imo... and in the opinion of pretty much all the reviewers I've seen)

It doesn't really matter in itself. I've just seen some people (not necessarily people on this board) make a semi-big deal out of the dual wielding; they proclaimed how cool it was going to be and such. To me, I just didn't see how it was a big deal at all. It is an improvement, and it does add to the game, but it wasn't anything new. It just felt like to me some people were giving Halo more credit for the dual wielding than the game deserved.

And I'd like to play online, but I don't have XBox Live, nor do I really want it. I've never been into multiplayer too much, and going online with a console just seems like too much of a hassle for something I'd only use once in a while.


*shrugs and walks away*

Canyarion 12-01-2004 04:50 AM

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You're going to get flamed again. :p

I'm sorry. :(

Blackmane 12-01-2004 11:25 AM

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You know, Link has a point....

*jumps in some nearby bushes to hide from the pitchforks*

Neo 12-01-2004 01:40 PM

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Halo 2 does feel a lot like the original. You have dual-wielding and car-jacking but that's about it for changes. The environments are upgraded but all the weapons are basically the same and the soundtrack is as uninspired as ever. Halo 2 is more of an expansion pack than an actual sequal.

Crono 12-01-2004 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo
Halo 2 does feel a lot like the original. You have dual-wielding and car-jacking but that's about it for changes. The environments are upgraded but all the weapons are basically the same and the soundtrack is as uninspired as ever. Halo 2 is more of an expansion pack than an actual sequal.

In that case I am glad that I have not played the original Halo. Everything in Halo 2 was new to me so I am pretty impressed with Halo 2.

thatmariolover 12-01-2004 02:18 PM

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I have to heartily agree with Link on this one. The game is very much like the first. I think the only place where those two critical new features are prominant are on Legendary and in multiplayer. Besides that, the single player game was too short and left too much to be answered. As a matter of fact, I'd have to say it's the worst video game ending since Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver. But hey, maybe that's just me.

All around, I'm not dissing Halo 2 at all. It's a good game, and I'll play it for the multiplayer for a long time. But I utterly disagree with the conclusion that Halo 2 is a huge improvement over Halo. There honestly needs to be a v1.1 update that adds the features they removed from the beta builds of Halo 2 (i.e. leaning, going to prone, realistic shadow-casting) available to people on Xbox Live or even in an update disc.

Null 12-01-2004 02:28 PM

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Some like Halo, some dont like halo. Both sides really need to deal with that fact and get over it already.

as for updating, consoles arnt really there yet, im hoping for some larger hard drives next gen and maybe they can get workin on patching games and adding features people want.

DarkMaster 12-01-2004 03:03 PM

Re: Xbox 2 will run the tables
 
You know Link, if you're not into multiplayer, you really shouldn't have bought Halo2 :sneaky: Seriously, if there was no live multiplay I would've just rented the game and beat the single player.

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Originally Posted by Null
Prolly to try the game, perhaps he thought he'd like it.

not everyone is blessed with the magical ability to see if games are good or not before buying.

That is why god created video game rentals.

Null 12-01-2004 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster
That is why god created video game rentals.


nah, he created game rentals to rip people off. :p

Jonbo298 12-01-2004 05:04 PM

Re: Xbox 2 will run the tables
 
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Originally Posted by DarkMaster
You know Link, if you're not into multiplayer, you really shouldn't have bought Halo2 :sneaky: Seriously, if there was no live multiplay I would've just rented the game and beat the single player.

Then why did people buy Halo 1 if it had no Live multi-play?

Canyarion 12-01-2004 05:12 PM

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4 player splitscreen should be fun too.... right? Or perhaps a LAN.

Perhaps I'll get it when it comes out on PC. Of course everyone will curse me for that, because THEN it's an old game. But I don't care.

Oh wait, I want HL2 first.

Blackmane 12-01-2004 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Canyarion
Oh wait, I want HL2 first.

Good man, very good man. I have played both, and I think that HL2 is better anyways. Deathmatch just got released for it and that is a lot of fun.

DarkMaster 12-01-2004 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298
Then why did people buy Halo 1 if it had no Live multi-play?

Um, because they liked the game? I didn't buy it.


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