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Actually the PSP screen is scratch resistance, someone at IGn had the link for it.

Oh and I hear people say that the battery life isn't an issue cause you don't play 3/6 hours straight, but think about playing over a period of time......let's say you play it an hour everyday......at the end of 6 days, you'll have to get new batteries or recharge the ones you have.

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:hmm:

yes...and plugging it in once every 6 days is..... hard to do. lol
seriously, for anything rechargable i'd plug in pretty much every night. the thing recharges quite amazingly fast actually.

and now that i think about it. since the recharable batter is changable, when they make a longer lasting battery later on its just going to be a matter of going and buying it.

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You seem to generalize that all of us who are disappointed with some of the PSP's shortcomings are criticizing the screen as well. I'm not at all. But even with a case it's going to get scratched unless that case is felt or microfiber on the inside. But regardless, I'm not arguing about the screens. The DS touch screen will scratch. That's why I've got one of the third party screen protectors. Works wonders.

The PSP is getting a lot more mixed media than I've heard of the DS. I'm not saying it's bad or it's good. But the battery life is not good enough for me at this stage for me to want one. Maybe if they revise it I'll look at it later. You guys can disagree with me on that, but I really don't get the point. If it works for you, then great. I just know it's not going to satisfy me. Hopefully you're all happy with it after you buy it.

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:cool:

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...I never once made such a generalization. My point is that many of the people who say a lot of crap about the PSP know nothing about it except for its shortcomings. Why can't we have some threads about what aspects of the PSP are great? These constant "PSP has problems" debates are getting extremely annoying.

Yeah, it has a few problems. The DS has a few problems too. So does the PS2, the GCN, the Xbox, and the GBA:SP, along with any other console or handheld ever made. And to top it all off, no one has even seen or used an actual real life PSP. Seriously, these threads are fanboy fodder, nothing more.

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Scratch resistant does not mean scratch proof.

Make them if you want. I already know how great the PSP is and a lot of the excellent features. But the "constant" debates (two?) are pointing out some of the things that are a problem with the PSP.

GameMaster posted a great dead pixel thread about the DS here.

And it was met with a pretty vehement "it shouldn't happen" from Null. And he's right, it shouldn't. But at least I can take it back and get it fixed. As opposed to the battery issue (it's an issue to me - and if it isn't to you, great - but it's an issue to some of us) that can't be fixed at all.

I was excited about the PSP and still am. Hopefully Sony can work out the problems. But if they don't, I'm not going to get one.

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The majority of the Nintendo fans in this thread had NO intention of buying a PSP no matter how flawless the system was, and are playing devil's advocate because they are threatened that PSP might actually threaten Nintendo's dominance in the handheld gaming market.

Yes, I made a generalization.

And yes, I'm right, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

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Interesting how you quoted that part of my post, and not the part where I actually made my point.

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That generalization doesn't apply to me. PSP will take off. After a price drop or 2, I'll probably get one.

Threatened? I don't feel threatened at all. The handheld market needed competition that Nintendo would have to do something.

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[sarcasm]I'm sorry I didn't reiterate your point for you.[/sarcasm]

I didn't quote the other half of your post because I wasn't replying to it. I agreed with it and it needed no statement from me. It would have gotten +rep if not for the other half of the post - which I quoted for that very reason.

Exactly. The haldheld market has been extremely stagnant for a long time now. It's awesome that there's some competition so that we'll have two great systems instead of one that was set at a laughable price.

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If you agreed with the majority of my words, you should've said so. The way I saw it was that you picked a rather loose and incoherent line from my post to try to diminish the point I was making. And hence, the reiteration of the point in the previous post.

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The majority of the Sony fans in this thread had NO intention of buying a DS no matter how flawless the system was.

Yes, I made a generalization.

And yes, I'm right, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

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Doesnt QUITE work out in this particular thread that way. of been better to mention other threads for that point.

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I heard that Duracell is working with Sony to release a Premiere Li-ion battery for the PSP to boost life. That would be cool...

The only thing that really matters about battery life is maybe watching a movie and having it cut short if your on a airplane.

Hmmm I'm still picking it up on launch just to see how it is... that and I'm a huge sony fan... so I'll support them no matter what... lol.

I might even pick up a DS as well just so I don't have to deal with rants and bantering about which handheld is better.

I'm going to pick up the Gamecube, Xbox and have my lil pstwo and then leave the bickering up to you guys... lol

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you're damn right.

but I'm not in here picking apart every one of the DS's flaws, I couldnt care less

I also have no intention of buying a PSP

and *GAG* at Jonbo and thatmariolover. every scratch the PSP is prone to, every less second its battery life is, you guys smile a little wider. you speak only of its negatives, it's glaringly obvious

I know others are thinking the same thing but wont say it in as many words

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I choose to refrain from stating what you said to avoid a catatrophic downpoor of bantering. Good that some of us notice it. I don't want to glorify the PSP or the DS that much and I don't want to point out the flaws of either one, either. I simply have better ways of wasting my time.... like playing Initial D.... thats time AND money.

But in any case... it seems like you are right.
They probably jumped at the chance to post about these problems with the PSP.

My friend in cali bought a DS and the touch screen failed... Got it exchanged and the touch screen failed to respond to his touch..... New problem arising that DS needs to confront?

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If you had bothered to read my earlier posts before the negatives were pointed out about the PSP, I was fully intending to buy it. Even a week ago I was still planning on getting one. Don't go generalizing on me just because I'm being a smart shopper. I didn't make one arguement about the screen except that it would get scratched (resistant or not) if you didn't put a protective screen cover on it (you could even cut one of the fit it yourself PDA screen covers). Honestly, grow up. I've got all three of the consoles and was planning on getting both of the handhelds. If I know a product isn't going to satisfy me, I'm not going to get it. When they come out and my friend gets one, I might reevaluate the situation. But until then, get off of my back.

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I come into the handheld forum from an outside view. I have no intention of buying any handheld gaming device until possibly late 2005 at the earliest.

What I sense from "nintendo fans" (yeah, I generalized again...some dont apply, I wont name names) is this "oh god, they like ____ about the PSP...wowie, impressive :rolleyes:" attitude and a sense of relief/pride when reporting PSP negatives.

thatmariolover, you do look at things at a more objective way than most people here...I shouldn't have included you in the same sentence as Jonbo. we have our biases, which is natural, but your goggles definately dont seem as tinted. and I respect the fact that you stood up for yourself directly at me. I generalized, and that's what I wanted to hear.

I wont name names (well, I mentioned Jonbo...I wont name anymore names) of the others that give this sickening sense of childish Nintendo PR that I thought died down over the past couple years around here.

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It sounds like your friend is the problem ;)

On a more serious note, did this friend ever try running the calibration software on the initial boot screen that appears when you turn on the DS?

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Stu you can't talk about nintendo fans like that when you are as bad as them with sony.

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Not only can I...

I just did

Anything else?

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Yes my friend ran the whole enchilada... to no avail.

In any case, I don't think Nintendo fanatics could never give an accurate review of a Sony product... as Sony fanatics could never give an accurate review of a Nintendo product....

In cases like these... there will always be more negatives pointed out then the positives.

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I guess this really is a Sony vs Nintendo argument.

I believe that this thread was designed to list some potential problems with the PSP. I haven't seen a video of the Nintendo DS cartridge flying out while some1 is playing a game, or complaints about battery life. Therefore these are all valid points and worth bringing up.

At least I would like to know this before I buy my PSP.

I have heard some Sony fans on this forum complain about how they think the dual screen is not a feasible idea and has no potential, from the time of release, where there probably aren't enough games to even support this feature (early stages).

It kinda seems like there can be no wrong done by the PSP. The moment a problem is brought up, everyone goes on the defensive without even properly thinking about the problem and how it can affect users.

If people see problems with the PSP, and they think it's a big problem, then I say it's fine. But not to the point where they are saying "PSP is gonna fail" or Nintendo DS is gonna fail". It's too early to tell I guess.......

Sony fanboys are just as bad as Nintendo fanboys. At least I am a fanboy who can admit that the Gamecube is my least played console out of the 3 and the Ps2 shined this gaming generation. And also I am looking forward to both handhelds, but am a little skeptical about some of the PSP issues discussed in this thread (as most of you should be). Wait and see no?

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well thats part of the problem, many of these arent problems at all, and are just points to make either one look bad.

it helps to know what exactly your looking at tho, the disc poping out, i dont see a disc poping out while someone is playing. i see someone torquing the thing, twisting the whole unit and looks to be trying to hit the eject button with one of his fingers behind it.

and actually the more i look at that damn video, the more it looks like its a camera trick and its upside down, it appears to be the disc is just falling out, but because of how the camera is making it look like its shooting out. Cant find the video right now but i remember when they showed em putting in a disc, there was no spring action to it. it slid in, and shut, pops open kinda like the old cassette tapes did, and you pull the umd out.



besides questionable battery life for psp, and pixel problems on ds, i dont see any major problems on either.

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Yer at first I was thinking that it was a trick. I'm not sure though. It kinda looks like he's just playing it. But it could be.....who knows.

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Everyone has a bias. There is no way that no one does. I have taken my side with the DS.

But here is my way of trying to to sound bias when talking about either system.

No system is perfect.

The DS is a great system with limitless possibilites. It has great graphics and the touch screen adds a whole new dimension of gaming.

Now the shortcommings are:

-Lack of release games
-Too many rehashes
-Not if 3rd party support is fully there

I'll discuss some other parts and some similarities with the psp later.

Now the psp. The psp is a great system with graphics up the arse and the ability to be a full media center. It has a beautiful screen and it's design just makes a man want to *ahem* in his pants.

Some short commings:

-Short battery life
-System fragility
-UMD Ejection may be possible. The video looks very realistic becuase he was no where near the eject button. If this is real. Sony may have a small problem on thier hands.


Now, the DS and psp both has fragile screens. The fact that the psp's screen is just out there and the DS's touch screen doesn't help it. But for both of them, just get a screen cover. It will cost about 10 bucks at most, but it make sure that your screen is going to be protected from scratches, (unless dropped from very high distances, in that case, your screwed) from glare, and fingerprints.

The nintendo will have some trouble if they really don't fully utilize all the features of the DS. They also must make sure that the DS has a strong 3rd party support which as the usual with nintendo is a little shaky but since it is a handheld, i believe the support with grow with some time.

The psp's battery life will probably be bettered as developers understand the hardware better. Ridger Racers was the first porible game with that much graphic capability but they never really though of battery conservation techniques. They will probably be developed as more games are created. Also stronger batteries will be created for the psp over time and if anything just buy a second battery and replace it when it dies on the road. It's easy to replace.

Now with the whole lack of video playback unless you can screw around with the directories and the codec. Sony usually doesn't do well with the releases of their hardware. All the features will be of use in a small amount of time as they relese what you need.

and dead pixels.... everything that is lcd will have one no matter what you do. So deal.

Each portable console has their differences but they are both great in their own way.

Personally i chose the DS. To me i don't need ps2 graphics to enjoy a good game. I also don't need my portable player to play music, thats what my ipod is for. Even though there is now an addon that will fit in your gba or gba slot in your DS that reads SD memory cards and plays mp3's and mpeg movies, but it's an addon. You do not have to have that already on it. I like that option. But thats my personal opinion.

I'm still not sure if i am going to get a psp myself. I'm looking at the games that will be released with it here in the americas and so far no game has really caught my attention. If i see a game or two that catch my eye or games that will come after the release that capture my eye then i might consider it but until then i am happy with my DS and i am anticipating the release of about 11-12 games in between Jan-Mar than i am waiting to buy.

We should start to repect each person's opinion a little more. Just becuase someone said something agaisnt the psp or ds doesn't mean we should bash them. Like i said, no console is perfect so we really should go crazy over a release. Give it a couple of months and see the improvements.

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Of course there is always biased opinions... otherwise where would the world be? The world would be a boring place if EVERYONE sided w/ Kerry or Vice Versa. We need opposing sides and sometimes it's a good thing.

My thinking however to resolve any type of issue to pick up both handhelds... that way you dont need to argue about any type of game exclusivity and whatnot.

A game comes out for DS you like...... OH YOU HAVE A DS!
A game comes out for the PSP you like..... OH YOU HAVE A PSP!

Smart thinking in my opinion... I'm not waiting for RE4 to come for the PS2... i'm picking up a Gamecube just for that game... and Chrono Trigger Ressurrection.

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well i can garentee he's not just playing it, he's trying to get that to happen obviously, cuz he's twisting the thing back and forth almost to the point where he can break it to get the thing to open.

my personal only question is whether he's actually upside down or not. i've seen 3 different video's and all are done the EXACT same way, into a pillow. seems very odd to me that none or done zoomed out where you can see everything and watch the disc pop up into the air.