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You're not alone GM. I hate the feeling that those are different Links and Zeldas. :(

Anyway, I hope this game takes places in Hyrule. I like DHs idea. Some kind of war. There should be some action outside Links quest. :unsure:

Link having revenge sounds too much like PoP2, where the Prince has turned into a huge bastard.
Link needs to fight for the good in this world. :)

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AH ha, so you're just bitter ...

I agree though, I would like to see some reference to past games in the newer Zelda games. (Especially links to A Link to the Past)

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You always do attempt.

Did I say they should kill the Princess? Please point out where I said that. Oh thats right, I didn't. I said they should maybe take the series in a darker path for at least one game. Thanks for reading.

Did I say I didn't like the Zelda series? Please point out where I said that. Oh thats right, I didn't. In fact I believe I said I LOVED Windwaker and even call the franchise "great". Thanks for reading.

I love Chef Boyardee Beef Ravioli. I've loved EVERY can I've ever eaten. That doesn't mean that every once in a while I wouldn't like an Overstuffed or *shock* maybe even a Spaghetti-O every once in a while. Variety is good, even in the Chef Boyardee franchise.

(This section is for Link 1130 also)To me the lack of variety is a problem. Nintendo already has its loyal Zelda fans who will buy the game no matter what. There are also a lot of former Nintendophiles, such as myself, who once worshipped at the alter of their 8-bit box who have become disenfranchised by Nintendo not taking any chances with their most beloved franchises. A darker Link and Zelda game, which thankfully it looks like their attempting to do, would do a lot to pique our interest again.

[/quote]If you dont like it, fine, dont complain. Will the creators magically wonder what the people on GT are saying about hteir game? No. If you dont like it, there is one simple step: Don't buy it. Than we all win.[/quote]

This is a FORUM. That means that opinions that don't agree with you are welcome. Try and absorb that little fact sometime

I wasn't responding to the article, as I mentioned before, I responded to member's reactions to that article and how so many Nintendo fans seem unwilling to accept any serious story changes in the Holy Trinity of Nintendo (Mario, Zelda and Metroid). You may disagree with me on the stubborness that I see, but thats your right to do so.

Which revolves around Ganon kidnapping Zelda... nice try.

Typhoid, please try and recognize hyperbole. I was exagerrating to make a point. Even in Windwaker Link made an angry face when attacking someone. My point was that for a series that is violence based it always has a happy-go-lucky feel about it even when you're slicing up the enemy. This new darker Zelda might be a nice change.

What the hell are you talking about? My whole point is that the story doesn't change even when the gameplay does change. I even explicitly said this when I talked about Metroid. Did you read my post or just skim it once you saw "The Strangler" wrote it and then started writing?

My point here was that there are more opportunities to change Zelda since in its heart it is a fantasy game based on sword and sorcery. Theres a lot that can be done with this.

Meanwhile Mario is a plumber who gets sucked down the drain into a world ruled by turtles who captured a princess. That really doesn't give you much room to work with, now does it? They tried once, and it led to a really bad movie. I wouldn't want to put anyone through that again.

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You know the chicken guy from OoT who gives you the bottle? I would very much like it if Link ran him through with his sword and then stuffed a chicken beak up his pee hole.

And Typhoid, that's like the coolest avatar ever.

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Well, at least it isn't like Final Fantasy, where the only relationship between the titles is a moogles, chocobos, similar enemies, and "Cid." Storywise, anyhow.

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I take back what I said about making Zelda grittier, it was a very bad idea, and I like what DM said better. Making it a grittier game would completely ruin the feeling of the game that I have come to love, which I realized a few hours after making my post. Zelda has always been fun for me because of the light heartedness style of it.

It would be alright if a few dungeons had a gritty and evil feel to them, but that's about it.

And GM, mature is the right word. DM doesnt want things to be darker, he wants it to be more mature. He wants the storyline and characters to be things that you need at least half a brain to understand. He wants it to have an epic feel that you need a more mature mind to understand.

And they are no doubt different links. For a very long time I thought they were the same link, but then I was reading my OoT players guide and it told me otherwise. Like GM I felt very dissapointed at first...but I don't really mind so much. From what I've read the Link and Zelda in every game are decedents of the original Link and Zelda, though I'm not sure which game is set in the earliest time period. Though I do believe that it is the same gannon every time, that just seems like it makes sense.

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I agree.

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*Response based on first two pages because frankly got sick of reading anymore of it.

What's with everyone wanting to banish kid Link to the pits of hell? You've only played as "adult link" (adult? wasn't he only 17 anyway?) once in an actual Zelda game and not even for the entire time. So I'm guessing you guys didn't enjoy any of the other 8 Zelda games when you played as kid Link eh? They would have been so much better if he was a few years older huh? and meaner? and more "is Link gonna have to choke a bitch?" Bah.

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Link choking a bitch, how interesting :p

But I'll clarify my grittier comment. The new Zelda for the 'Cube basically looks like how most people vision a Zelda game in 3D which is nice. WW was looking at Link's life from a kid's perspective. Kid's don't see dark gritty stuff, more "happy care free" things. But the new one is more teen/adultish Link so he sees things through his eyes differently.

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Maybe it's just me but to have a dark twisted world with Link as a kid would be exemplary. If anyone has ever read Jhonen Vasquez's Squee or even that yet to be released game, Psychonauts, through a kid's eyes things can be even more scary without losing any of the fun.

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LoZ: Doesn't specify age (probably a year or two younger than 16)
AoL: 16
ALttP: Doesn't specify age. Link is referred to as "kid," but that just means the person talking to Link is older than Link.
LA: Doesn't specify age.
OoT: Link's age is never actually specified. It is generall accepted, however, that we see Link in his approximately 10th and 17th years (or somewhere around there).
MM: Same as OoT. However, we only see him in his "10th" year.
Oracles: Doesn't specify age. Official art seems to portray Link in his early to mid teens.
TWW: Doesn't specify age. Probably around the same age as OoT/MM Link.


So... They might not have all been "kid" Link.

Although I don't really care which one I'm playing...

<-- nerd


*shrugs and walks away*

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I'll agvree with the idea of a mature Link over a "grittier" Link. I would just like to see some of the themes, emotions and problems grow up a little.

And no one says that you can't change it right back. there have been many Links over the years, as Link1130 pointed out.

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They did mention that he had "come of age." I'd assume under jewish traditions that he'd be 13.

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Changing the basic storyline a bit? Sure, ok. I'd like that. Making Link more "grown-up" and having deeper emotion in the game? Ok, that's not a terrible idea.

But let's not lose focus of what IGN is saying here. It would have been one thing if they had proposed to have Link falling in love (which he has never done before) or crying or having Zelda herself as a kickass, playable character (I want Sheik!). Had they proposed any of those ideas, I think the vast majority of Zelda fans here wouldn't have a problem with it.

But IGN is dreaming of Link on a quest for Ganondorf's death to avenge Zelda's murder. I don't even mind the idea of Zelda getting killed. But Link getting enraged and swearing revenge? Didn't IGN just say that Prince of Persia 2 tries way too hard to go for the gritty look?

Besides, that's not gritty or mature. It's just bloody. Bloody does not necessarily mean mature (something I suspect IGN generally doesn't understand). In any case, their proposed storyline is puerile and banal. Instead of the game having the plot of a typical fantasy story, it now has the plot of...a typical action movie. Excuse me if I fail to be excited.

I'm glad IGN isn't in control of any of the three console manufacturers because it's pretty clear that they would have no idea what they're doing. Hell, it seems that they don't even have any idea of what they want to begin with. Although I'm guessing that they would probably read my Zelda fic and think that it's exactly the kind of story Zelda should be (here's a hint: not one of my readers came away with that conclusion by the end).

Now, if Zelda were recast in the mold of Lord of the Rings, that's something I could get behind. Big armies? Let's go for it. Let's throw in some politics, too. Get Zelda into a marriage of state. Have racial prejudice. Now that's a Zelda game I would like to play. But please, let's not turn Link into yet another dark anti-hero who "smolders with generic rage" as Penny-Arcade put it so nicely.

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You're still alive? :p
Ahhhhhh it's so nice to read a post from Xanny again :D

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Sometimes I wish Ubisoft didn't cancel the American release for Evil Twin. Pardon the rudeness of my expression, but that game looked like it was going to f*cking rock. Too bad it didn't get the popularity it deserved.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/eviltwin/index.html

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Hey, I like the idea of armies. Not to make it too large of a part of the storyline (because Link has always pretty much worked on his own, aside from a little help from the Sages). But it could definately be cool to see some big army fighting going on.

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Yeah I've probably said that a few years ago.
Have an army storm Ganon's castle and let the player either help fight in the war, or sneak into the back of the castle. :D