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fingersman 06-18-2002 09:39 AM

Go South Korea. I want them to win.

HOw come there is no Korean flag??

BTW did you see that Bicycle kick near the end.......I wanted that to score so badly.

WOOOOOOTTTTT they almost scored again. Corner....it missed.

Go korea go.:D


Tooti from Italy is off, red card....this is getting interesting.



GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL. KOREA won. oh yeah. GOALLLLL

*dances jig*

Angrist 06-18-2002 09:58 AM

YEEEEESSSS!! :D:D:D

OH MAN THIS IS GREAT!!! GO HIDDINK!!

lol, one of those banners says "Hiddink for president"! :D

fingersman 06-18-2002 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by bobcat
Oh well for Japan :(

But I'm not from Japan. I'm ITALIAN/AUSTRALIAN!

GO ITALY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Forzza Italia.

You should have seen an Italian guy's face...it was of total disbelief...he just sat there like.....that didn't just happpen....tell me that didn't just happen.

*remembers that people take their soccer very seriously and pointing and laughing at some one who's team has lost could result in serious bodily injury*:D

Italy is a good team I am sorta sorry that they lost but I wanted Korea to win..and they did. :D

Go Korea go.

Angrist 06-18-2002 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by fingersman


You should have seen an Italian guy's face...it was of total disbelief...he just sat there like.....that didn't just happpen....tell me that didn't just happen.

The one with the weird thing on his head? :D

Italy didn't play so well those last minutes, S-Korea deserved it! :D

Bube 06-18-2002 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
The one with the weird thing on his head? :D
If you're talking about Coco, that was a bandage on his head. Another Italian elbowed just beside his eyebrow, and he was on the floor in a bloddy mess. So he got bandaged.

But if you're not talking about Coco, well, I didn't see anybody else with a weird thing on their head.

It seems this WC is very different form the others. Senegal, S.Korea, Turkey, and USA are the biggest surprises. France, Argentina, Portugal and Italy are eliminated. Yup, it really is different from the others.

bobcat 06-18-2002 06:07 PM

*cries*

I CAN believe they lost.

FIFA Officials: Name a team that Italy beat in this world cup?
Other FIFA Officials: Equador
FIFA Officials: Quick, get an Equadorian ref!

Not only coz of this, but seriously soccer does involve quite a bit of luck (for both teams).

I can't believe that was a red for Totti (well yellow, then red).

I'm glad Italy are out. No longer will I have to stress watching another World Cup game. Actually, I won't be watching another World Cup game now that Italy and Japan are out.

Did you see the crowd? I mean it must have been hard for Italy. I dunno. Stupid World Cup.

Now I can relax and get back to GTAIII :cool:

bobcat 06-18-2002 06:08 PM

*****WARNING ACCIDENTAL DOUBLE POST*****

*cries*

I CAN believe they lost.

FIFA Officials: Name a team that Italy beat in this world cup?
Other FIFA Officials: Equador
FIFA Officials: Quick, get an Equadorian ref for ITaly vs Korea!

Seriously though.............how STUPID do u have to be?? I mean why an Equadorian coach? Knowing that Italy beat Equador 2-0.

It's like in the USA v Germany match they get a Mexican coach. THink about it!

Not only coz of this, but seriously soccer does involve quite a bit of luck (for both teams).

I can't believe that was a red for Totti (well yellow, then red).

I'm glad Italy are out. No longer will I have to stress watching another World Cup game. Actually, I won't be watching another World Cup game now that Italy and Japan are out.

Did you see the crowd? I mean it must have been hard for Italy. I dunno. Stupid World Cup.

Now I can relax and get back to GTAIII :cool:

Joeiss 06-18-2002 07:10 PM

ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!!

Oh yeah! At my school, about 98% of the students are Italian. It felt so good to see Italy lose to Kariya today! Oh yeah!

Stupid Eye-talians and all of their pride. We printed off South Kariya flags and were waving them around!

BOO YEAH!

fingersman 06-19-2002 02:17 AM

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Originally posted by bobcat




Did you see the crowd? I mean it must have been hard for Italy. I dunno. Stupid World Cup.


Well it is in South Korea...maybe that had something to do with it??:rolleyes:

Yes yes I like how this world cup is going it's unpredictable....which I think is great. :D

bobcat 06-19-2002 04:16 AM

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Originally posted by Joeiss
ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!! ITALY LOST!!!

Oh yeah! At my school, about 98% of the students are Italian. It felt so good to see Italy lose to Kariya today! Oh yeah!

Stupid Eye-talians and all of their pride. We printed off South Kariya flags and were waving them around!

BOO YEAH!

I'm ova it now.

Oh well, back to eating my lasagne ;)

Joeiss 06-19-2002 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by bobcat


I'm ova it now.

Oh well, back to eating my lasagne ;)

Did you see the footage of the Italians watching the game outside in Rome? It was hillarious. When South Korea scored the winning goal, they were all mad and crying.


God I love it how people get so into sports.

bobcat 06-19-2002 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Joeiss


Did you see the footage of the Italians watching the game outside in Rome? It was hillarious. When South Korea scored the winning goal, they were all mad and crying.


God I love it how people get so into sports.

It's not funny when the team you're supporting loses :mad:

They are passionate about soccer in Italy, well nearly everywhere.

I was so upset when Italy lost. I didn't cry, but I was really annoyed.

Italy was one of the countries that had the worst luck this world cup. The worse refs as well.

Angrist 06-20-2002 05:45 AM

That's what Italians say. The rest of the world says the ref was very good, one of the best.

The offside was false, but that wasn't the ref's fault. And it's not like South Korea didn't deserve to win, they played pretty good, in the end better than Italy.

In every WC there are wrong decisions. Like how Belgium was defeated by Turkey. :unsure:

bobcat 06-20-2002 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
That's what Italians say. The rest of the world says the ref was very good, one of the best.

The offside was false, but that wasn't the ref's fault. And it's not like South Korea didn't deserve to win, they played pretty good, in the end better than Italy.

In every WC there are wrong decisions. Like how Belgium was defeated by Turkey. :unsure:

No they don't. All I've heard this World Cup from all of my Soccer mates (English, Serbian, Croatian, Australian, Korean, Japanese) is that this has been the worst World Cup when it comes to reffing!

The Argentinans and French said the same thing about the refs as well. France were robbed of a goal, and in a World Cup, these mistakes shouldn't be made. They should have a video referee to replay the point for very close calls.

ANd if a goal is a goal, of course people are gonna complain (especially considering that Italy had 2 disallowed goals when against Croatia, one disallowed against Mexico, and one "potential goal" disallowed against Korea). And a whole lot of bs rulings!

And this happened so much to the Italians, and they were ALL goals. If you looked @ the replays correctly.
It's been said by many (even the non Italians) that Italy has had the worst luck this World Cup when it comes to the refs, and I agree. Especially putting an Equadorian Coach for Korea v Italy. :mad:

And for FIFA to apologise to the world about the ref for Croatia vs Italy (on Italy's behalf), well there's gotta be something wrong. Oh and they kicked that referee out of the World Cup.

Also I think Italy played MUCH better than Korea in the first half. Considering they were IN Korea and the crowd was booing Italy every time they got the ball!

2nd half Korea were desperate so they kept attacking in hope for a goal, and eventually got it. And I think they had the better 2nd half.

PS There are mistakes made, but to Italy, there were FAR too many

bobcat 06-20-2002 06:12 PM

****NEWS JUST TO HAND****

According to my mum, the Equadorian ref for Italy v Korea got kicked outta the World Cup.

That's 2 refs that have been kicked out in 2 of Italy's most crucial games.

Sigh :mad:

Jin 06-21-2002 12:05 AM

Koreans will do anything to win, even if it means cheating. Remember the Olympics? After that Korean short track skater pushed Apollo Onno and got eliminated, Korea threatened to leave the tournament early, even though it was very clear that the Korean skater cheated. It's not that I don't like Koreans, but it's just their mentality. Win, or kill everyone trying.

Professor S 06-21-2002 07:57 AM

Thats the mentality you need tro have to win. I have no regrets about the things I did while playing football and wrestling to win games.

Remember... its only cheating if you get caught:D

Ric 06-21-2002 08:10 AM

*cries lots*

England are out!

*Cries some more*

Those bloody Brazillians :mad2:

*Keeps Crying*

Oh well, we are among the 8 best teams in the worls at least.

Good luck against those Germans to the USA!

*Walks off Crying*

Angrist 06-21-2002 09:11 AM

Haha England got kicked out by Brazil. Sorry but you're so cocky.

Stupid USA can't seem to make any goals against Germany, although they have the ball 80% of the time! :( I want Germany to lose! :D

gekko 06-21-2002 09:28 AM

Brazil sucks, they won't win it (I hope).

But NOOOO!!!!! USA lost :(

But like Arena said before, if the US loses, it'll hurt some pride back home, if Germany loses, it would be devastating. But wouldn't it be even more devastating if we beat them next WC, on their turf? :devil:

Oh well, give the USA credit, they did better than anyone expected, and earned a lot of respect.

Next question, why do the 2 teams i cheer for always meet in single elimination? Err... Well, go Germany!!!!

bobcat 06-21-2002 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by gekko
Brazil sucks, they won't win it (I hope).

But NOOOO!!!!! USA lost :(

But like Arena said before, if the US loses, it'll hurt some pride back home, if Germany loses, it would be devastating. But wouldn't it be even more devastating if we beat them next WC, on their turf? :devil:

Oh well, give the USA credit, they did better than anyone expected, and earned a lot of respect.

Next question, why do the 2 teams i cheer for always meet in single elimination? Err... Well, go Germany!!!!

Probably one of the biggest suprises were USA. They have improved so much, and I still think they played better than Germany :(

Oh well, Italy is out...............*cries again*

Angrist 06-21-2002 11:12 AM

It was weird, the Americans had the ball all the time and just couldn't penetrate the German's defense. Once the Germans got the ball they could shoot on the goal within 10 seconds! But the USA also had some nice chances.

And they made a goal, just one German stopped it with his hand!!! I'm sure of it, it was hard to see but from one angle it was obvious!! :unsure:

Can South Korea beat Spain? I think so. Then they'll face Germany. :errr:

Jin 06-21-2002 11:28 AM

Oh well. The US team looked good out there even though they lost. Germany was the better team, but they sure look ugly out there. They aren't entertaining at all, imo. All they do is use their strength and height to kick or head butt the ball as far as they can. Whenever the US team was able to squeeze through the defense there would always be a German to launch it back to midfield with their incredible power.

Jonbo298 06-21-2002 12:19 PM

Good ol' German defense. Its really improved over the past 60 years;) :D

ed328 06-22-2002 05:23 AM

Well, congratulations to South Korea on the win and making history as well.

On another note, it would seem that the referees want South Korea to advance as that's the only thing I can think of to explain some of the calls by the assistant referees.

bobcat 06-22-2002 05:53 AM

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Originally posted by ed328
Well, congratulations to South Korea on the win and making history as well.

On another note, it would seem that the referees want South Korea to advance as that's the only thing I can think of to explain some of the calls by the assistant referees.

Well duh :rolleyes:

Spain got the same treatment as Italy.

More disallowed goals. Congratulations to Korea, but this has to be the WORST world cup for refs.

BTW Spain SHOULD HAVE and DESERVED to win over Korea. They had a goal (I only watched the 2nd half).

Bloody unfair again. Backing my statement, it's rigged.

Mark my words, Korea will MOST LIKELY make it to the final!

Good on ITaly complaining about FIFA's performance. They have the right to after what's been done to them. And I hope Spain do the same!

Angrist 06-22-2002 08:33 AM

Yeah!! South Korea won!! Oh man this is good!! :D

Unfortunately I couldn't watch the second half of the game, but entire Holland is excited!! :D

Bond 06-22-2002 10:14 AM

I look at it this way: Soccer (football) is most defiantly not a major sport here. Golf, tennis, basketball, football, hockey, and Nascar are all bigger sports than soccer (football) here. Now being one of the top 8 soccer (football) teams is an amazing feet for any country. Some Country's whose main focus is soccer (football) live to get in the top 4 or 8. Frankly the American public could care less. But, if our main sport was soccer, we would get much farther.

bobcat 06-22-2002 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
Yeah!! South Korea won!! Oh man this is good!! :D

Unfortunately I couldn't watch the second half of the game, but entire Holland is excited!! :D

It's not really that good. Considering that South Korea have made it through thanks to a MINIMUM of 3 disallowed goals in total that were goals.

Once against Portugal, Italy and Spain.

It makes me sick just thinking about it.

Revival 06-22-2002 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Bond
I look at it this way: Soccer (football) is most defiantly not a major sport here. Golf, tennis, basketball, football, hockey, and Nascar are all bigger sports than soccer (football) here. Now being one of the top 8 soccer (football) teams is an amazing feet for any country. Some Country's whose main focus is soccer (football) live to get in the top 4 or 8. Frankly the American public could care less. But, if our main sport was soccer, we would get much farther.
Yeah.. that's the truth. I tend to think that football [football :sneaky:] is our main sport.. oh vell :unsure:

Angrist 06-23-2002 07:18 AM

Bobcat please stop the griming. You can't do anything about it, and it's not like they didn't deserve it. They were at least as good as Italy and Spain. In some ways...

When's the next match???

bobcat 06-23-2002 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
Bobcat please stop the griming. You can't do anything about it, and it's not like they didn't deserve it. They were at least as good as Italy and Spain. In some ways...

When's the next match???

Excuse me but when you see the co host nation have AT LEAST 3 disallowed goals which were clear goals against 3 top ranked World Cup soccer teams (Portugal, Italy, Spain), it kinda gets me pissed off. So don't tell me what to do. This is a Sports forum and I'll do as I wish (without offending anyone of course)

***EDIT*** Sorry for the anger there Angrist, didn't mean to take it out on you :beerchug:

I understand I can't do anything about it. There is NO WAY in the world that Korea deserve to be where they are now. They play well, they have improved quite a bit, but it's scaringly unfair how they got there after the Spain, Italy and Portugal matches(especially Spain match!). If anybody watched those matches, they would know what I'm talking about. They've even brought this issue up in the papers/news. It's not something that will be just brushed along and forgotten about.

I'm glad Korea are the first Asian team in history to make it through to the semi's. It's good to see other countries getting better in the World Cup. But it's BS how they got there.

BTW I have nothing against Korea. I am hoping that they win the world cup now. They are the team I would like to win now (now that Senegal is out).

Put it this way. One disallowed goal in a game is fair enough. I would not be complaining. But there have been WAY too many for Korea.

So yeh :burger:

Angrist 06-23-2002 01:27 PM

BTW what dissalowed goal do you mean? The second one, where the ref had wistled and the Spanish players kept on playing?? I haven't seen that 'goal', but I just heard that both 'almost goals' shouldn't have been goals.

If you can understand my weird English... :(

bobcat 06-23-2002 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Angrist
BTW what dissalowed goal do you mean? The second one, where the ref had wistled and the Spanish players kept on playing?? I haven't seen that 'goal', but I just heard that both 'almost goals' shouldn't have been goals.

If you can understand my weird English... :(

You haven't even watched the games :unsure:

:hmm:

The 2nd one was a goal (first should have been).

The ball did not cross the Korea line. It was always in. They even showed closeups of it.

Watch the game (especially the one where the ball was ruled outside of Korea's Goal Line or something).

Shadow_Link 06-23-2002 10:43 PM

Well... Where to begin?

I tipped Italy to win the worldcup... Oh how wrong I was (I support them too). One team I wasn;t surprised by was Turkey. To me, they are THE MOST under rated team in the world. They play lovely, attacking, and might I say flowing football. Their defence isn;t even half bad either. Sas, Basturk and Tuguy are class acts, and I really do think they have a great chance against Brazil, it will be a great match.

Moving onto the Korea-Germany match. Somehow, this all too obvious feeling in my head is tellinng me that Korea will be the ones to progress into the finals. I wonder why :rolleyes:.

I, like others, do believe there was a conspiracy. It wasn't just obvious in the games that Korea had participated in, but also games in which they didn't. Look at Italy's games in their group stage. How many decisions went against them? How many goals disallowed? I believe that 'most unknown' referees were instructed to see the 'best' teams out. But Italy did progress.

Now... onto other things. I well and truy believe that the winner of the Brazil-Turkey match will go onto to win the cup. The reason I predict Turkey to beat Brazil is because Brazil has a suspect defence, or rather, has NO defence, and will ultimately be split open by a much improved Turkey (a team which KEEPS ON improving). It will be a test of 'who can score more', and because Turkey has a much better defence that Brazil, and an attack which could match Brazil's on it's day, they should be able to go through.

bobcat 06-24-2002 04:14 AM

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Originally posted by Shadow_Link

I, like others, do believe there was a conspiracy. It wasn't just obvious in the games that Korea had participated in, but also games in which they didn't. Look at Italy's games in their group stage. How many decisions went against them? How many goals disallowed? I believe that 'most unknown' referees were instructed to see the 'best' teams out. But Italy did progress.


I know huh! It's so unfortunate that they Italy got kicked outta the cup this way.

An Equadorian ref in Italy Vs Korea is a STUPID decision. Especially considering the following points:-

1) Italy beat Equador 2-0 in their first game
2) It was his first official World Cup game of reffing!

People might say "It doesn't matter coz refs can't be bias" etc, but the point is it's a STUPID decision. And there were disallowed goals in that game (again) which were goals!

Don't even get me started on Italy Vs Croatia, or Italy Vs Mexico.

That's why I think Korea don't deserve to be where they are at all. They are a good team, but the way they have made it through to the semi's is simply too .

This is the worst World Cup EVER!

Ric 06-24-2002 04:45 AM

I too suspect a little conspiracy, that ball did bloody not cross the line and the linesman had his flag up very late IMO.

But at the end of the day it all went down to penalties and the game then was determined only by the players skill so in the end Korea won with their own player skill not by default.

The question of weather the game should have gone into penalties is still to be decided. It probably should not have done.

Shadow_Link 06-24-2002 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by bobcat


I know huh! It's so unfortunate that they Italy got kicked outta the cup this way.

An Equadorian ref in Italy Vs Korea is a STUPID decision. Especially considering the following points:-

1) Italy beat Equador 2-0 in their first game
2) It was his first official World Cup game of reffing!

People might say "It doesn't matter coz refs can't be bias" etc, but the point is it's a STUPID decision. And there were disallowed goals in that game (again) which were goals!

Don't even get me started on Italy Vs Croatia, or Italy Vs Mexico.

That's why I think Korea don't deserve to be where they are at all. They are a good team, but the way they have made it through to the semi's is simply too .

This is the worst World Cup EVER!

Let me guess why you support Italy... Might it be because of a certain Christian Vieri? :D He was born in Australia wasn't he?
Well anyway, he's the best damn striker in the world. Shame he missed an easy chance that could have finished Korea off :D Nevertheless, this conspiracy theory is quite a rampant thought around here. Did anyone know that the wise president of Fifa (I think it's the wise) is a Korean...

bobcat 06-24-2002 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Shadow_Link


Let me guess why you support Italy... Might it be because of a certain Christian Vieri? :D He was born in Australia wasn't he?
Well anyway, he's the best damn striker in the world. Shame he missed an easy chance that could have finished Korea off :D Nevertheless, this conspiracy theory is quite a rampant thought around here. Did anyone know that the wise president of Fifa (I think it's the wise) is a Korean...

Didn't know that. Are you sure?

Well the MAIN reason why I support Italy is because I'm Italian ;)

ANd Vieri is an excellent striker. I don't know wot Italy would do without him.

Yeh he was born in Australia!

Shadow_Link 06-24-2002 11:04 AM

Woah, I never knew you were Italian. You remind me of Vieri :D.

It's kind of funny, apparently, he was a brilliant cricketer, and could have played for the Australian cricket team.


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