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Who would have thought the last two undefeated teams in the league would be the Packers and Lions? Sheesh.

Germy, Prof, Zebra -- Andy Reid out if this season continues to go south?

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I sure hope so! You sure hear what the sports radio personnel are saying about him. There's also a Philly comedian, Joe Conklin, who does impressions of all the coaches and players in Philly sports. They use him mostly for Reid though, which is great. I wish I could find the audio clip from yesterday making fun of Reid.

http://www.joeconklin.com/media.html


Speaking of that, it reminds me of this song from last year. In which Conklin does impressions of the commentators. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PwAS8qojqk


And I'm glad the Lions are doing well. Even the Bills look promising to be a spoiler for every team they play this year.

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I think the Bills are gonna come back down to earth. Hard. Maybe even starting with the Eagles.

I'm not an Eagles fan and don't follow the organization or the division outside of watching a few games. But from what I can tell the Eagles have a lot of talent...but maybe it isn't meshing well? I dunno. Seems like there is a lot of internal frustration.

I'm still undecided on the Lions. As a Bears fan I am scared shitless. The Bears have given up a ton of offensive yards. I'm prepared to see some poundage on Monday night. It's going to be a hell of a game though.

I'm really excited to see Packers vs. Lions in an offensive shoot-out.

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I hope the Eagles continue to screw themselves over for the rest of the year. Maybe that will finally get them to fire Andy Reid and his coaches. The Eagles look awful top to bottom, and it all starts with the coaching. Nobody's trying to play anymore, which makes it hard to even want to watch them.

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On a lighter note, it was a ton of fun to watch the Eagle's explosive offense during the 4th quarter. If they tighten up the offense and find some consistency they might just have the most destructive offense in the NFL.

The Bills also gave up a fuckton of offensive yards. Granted, they created a bunch of turnovers...I still think come crunch time the Bills are going to fall short.

The Packers are a force. That's a fact. I can't wait for the Packers vs. Lions offense showdown.

And it looks like all the Teboners will be blessed with the grace of the holy Tebow. Praise Tebow.

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It's a blessing that you think so highly of the Eagles. We're having a tough time, especially after that Phillies loss. I agree with both the Bills and Eagles at the current time, but still...The Eagles really have to overcome a lot to even make the playoffs.

I think their main hope is that the NFC East is just terrible... It would take 9-2 for the Eagles to go 10-6, but if they could somehow sneak the division with a 9-7, maybe they have a chance.

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Yeah, I get the frustration. Believe me. Chicago has had to deal with the Cub's shit forever, and the Bears have an awful GM and coaching has been shitty for a long time now. Even when we saw proactive Lovie Smith and good defense, we had the sex cannon at QB. Remember good Rex, bad Rex? I try not to. Now we have a good[?] quarterback, but our defense is sagging, and Mike fucking Martz is deploying a pretty goofy offensive scheme. When Jay Cutler is like, "fuck this! I'd rather give the ball to the running back than throw it," you know something is messed up.

My point is the Eagles have some huuuuuge weapons. Dallas is choke-tastic. The Giants are pretty iffy. And I'm pretty sure the Redskins are the most volatile team in first place right now.

I've watched enough bits and pieces of Eagles games this season to think that it comes down to: better game management and not making dumb mistakes (like being offsides on defense during a 4th down).

I'm not familiar enough with the organization to say whether or not letting go of Andy Reid will improve the situation. You certainly can trace a lot of management issues back to the coach. But I can say that your team is flippin' stacked. You have an explosive offense, and the defense played pretty solid today.

Just my 2 cents. Wish you the best. I like the Eagles, I think they're my preferred NFC East team. I was always a McNabb fan.

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I think the NFC East will be very competitive into the last weeks of the season, especially with so many divisional games left to be played.

On an unrelated note -- GO BEARS!

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Lions are 5-0 now.

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I really like the Bears, but it's cool to see the Lions doing well. I'm looking forward to a not-horrible Thanksgiving football game. :)

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Jesus Christ our offensive line is horrible. I feel sorry for Cutler.

Cutler not tough? Cutler not dedicated? Holy fuck I think he could be a top-10 Quarterback if he actually had a line. As a Bears fan, this is what I have been watching/putting up with all this season and all last season. I just am happy that we have a national audience to confirm that Cutler is actually tough, and that our O-Line is literally the worst thing I have ever seen in professional football.

I know the Bears are plagued with injuries, but that's not an excuse. Our second and third string players shouldn't suck so bad. Jerry Angelo, you are the worst GM ever; I have never seen such a stretch of poor draft choices. Lovie Smith, you suck too. What the fuck was that horrible game management during the first drive? What was with that horrible challenge? Where is your emotion, you emotionless bag of dicks.

It sucks watching our team come unhinged, especially when Cutler is a good QB and is likely going to peace out of Chicago and go win games somewhere else. It's going to be a long rebuilding process for Chicago. Bleh.

On a lighter note, congrats to the Lions. You still have some work to do, like finding a run game early on. But the Lions vs. Packers rivalry will be very exciting over the next 5-10 years. (and sorry, Bond, I know you wanted the Bears to win. The Packers aren't walking off as division champs without a fight :p ).

Edit: Forte too. In case you guys didn't know, the Bear's manager Jerry Angelo didn't want to negotiate contracts with Matt Forte. Just pay the guy, right? I hope that Forte and Cutler escape this crappy mess and go have successful careers because there is mad talent between the two. Greg Olsen is lucky he got out.

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To all you angry Eagle fans:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/10/...ing-of-the-end

The Bears are officially the ass clowns of the NFC. The NFL. We are now sharing a canoe with the Seahawks and the Dolphins.

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I can't believe I'm typing this, but I think it might not be that the Bears are that bad, but that the Lions are actually that good.

Also, c'mon, the Vikings are way worse than the Bears on all levels (players and management).

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I honestly think (based on last night's performance) that the Lions still have a ways to go. Their pass game? The Megatron? Yeah. That is gold right there. There defensive line is A+ too. Their run game? Consistent pass game? Early scoring? We will see.

I agree that the Bears have potential to be better. But they are 4 games out behind the Lions and the Packers. They aren't gonna win the North or the Wild Card. I'd like to see a paradigm shift in the management.

If Martz changes the offense (did you see how good Cutler did outside the pocket?!?!) we might win games. I can't imagine Martz will do that.

I'm gonna get a really good beer. A really good piece of pie. A really big bowl of pretzels. And enjoy the hell out of the Thanksgiving game. Lions vs. Packers. That is going to be epic. Let's hope both teams stay undefeated until then. :D

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WTF Canada. Explain this:

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That game is shaping up to potentially be one of the best regular match-ups this season.

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Wow.

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From ESPN's NFC North blog by Kevin Seifert:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/pos...roaches-lunacy

I agree 100%. Harbaugh is a dick, but you never win by continuing to escalate an unnecessary situation...

Anyway, the Vikings are terrible this year! Jeeeez. Because the Bears are not that great. Roy Williams had a spurt of a good game. Devin Hester dropped some more passes. Robbie Gould kicked more field goals that should have been touchdowns. Cutler escaped one or two near-sacks. Matt Forte still hasn't worked out a contract agreement with Jerry Angelo. The Bears may have won, but the Vikings are clearly in bad shape. The Bear's house of cards is going to fall apart come crunch time.

Also sexy Rexy threw 4 INTs. Hahaha. Who didn't see that coming...

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Wow, there is a lot of hate out there for Tim Tebow.

Poor god fearin' guy.

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Tebow annoys me. You know why? Because all I have been hearing about for the past 2 weeks is Tebow. On ESPN's The Blitz they asked why someone would not want Tebow to succeed. My response: so we can stop hearing about Tebow on the Blitz.

Otherwise, I wish Tebow the best.

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Tebow annoys me and I would rather not see him succeed.

Every time I see an athlete thank God and Jesus for their success, it annoys me. Really? You think that even on the off chance that there is a God, he would take the time to help you become a successful football player rather than use his cosmic powers to save starving children in Africa?

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I probably should have qualified what I said in that I've noticed a lot of hate for Tebow by the virtue of the fact that I've noticed so many people talking about him for no apparent reason.

Also, it's clear the NFL needs to implement a mercy rule for the Indianapolis Colts.

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If you didn't Peyton Manning was one of the greatest QB's of all time, you should now.

With PM: Playoff team.
Without PM: One of the worst teams I've ever seen play.

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It's amazing how true this is. I just can't believe how BAD the Colts are. Most of the same personnel from last year is still on the team right?

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I think so, but I also think this may be true for more teams than we think.

Saints? Packers? Both teams would probably be .500 at best without Brees and Rodgers.

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Yeah, unless you have a super dominating defense, you probably won't go too far in the NFL without a good to great QB. I'd say the Ravens and Jets kind of get by, and I don't consider Flacco or Sanchez elite...They're pretty good game managers though I guess.

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If last night's game was any indicator, Flacco has a lot of work to do...

I thought Indy had a couple close games this season and their defense was doing alright. It could partially be a momentum swing, and they probably feel defeated knowing that Manning is going to be out for the rest of the season.

I can't imagine feeling compelled to play defense when you're quickly down 24 points in the first quarter (or whatever the score was) with a rookie QB.

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Looks like the Eagles are back on the upswing.

I think it's very difficult to tell who the good teams are this year (even more so than previous years). Packers, Steelers, and 49ers all look solid, but beyond that I'm not so sure.

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I'm having a hard time deciding if some teams are good or if most teams are just very bad this year.

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For the first time since I was a little kid I can stand up and say that I am proud to be a 49ers fan. Maybe proud isn't the right word yet. Content. That's the one. I don't want to get ahead of myself here. I'm not exactly Montana-Rice confident yet, but I'm getting there.

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I agree to a point, but there is a big difference between a .500 team and the steaming pile of cow flop that is the Colts without Manning.

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Forum fan showdown. Eagles vs. Bears. Thoughts, KG?

Gotta say I like the Eagles at home here. Despite the bad start, they are on track to be 5-4 going into the big Giants game in a couple of weeks. The Bears ain't bad. I just hope Matt Forte is upset enough with his contract to lay an egg against the Eagles run defense. Or that the Eagles use their best strategy, which is to build an early lead (with an offense that has punted less than any other team), and then force teams into passing situations. From there, a better than average pass rush from the front 4 combined with a good secondary can do the rest.

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This game bothers me; a bit of a trap game after the Dallas drubbing. The Eagles should win, but that's if they can avoid turnovers.

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Good game last night. I think there's a very real possibility that the NFC North could produce three playoff teams: Packers, Lions, and Bears ... I'm not sure when the last time this happened, but I'd have to assume it's fairly rare.

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That was an intense game last night, yeah. I think the Eagles have an explosive offense to rally for a real playoff run so I'm not discounting them yet.

I think the Bears still have huge issues and inconsistencies. I really don't see the Bears going to the playoffs...but I guess we can see how the Bears vs Lions game plays out.

Speaking of...I think the NFC Wildcard race is pretty hot. I honestly think if the Bears lose next week they will be done. If the Lions lose then we can talk about a 3-team NFC North Wildcard race, but I still am skeptical.

Concerns with the Bears: O-line, coaching and play calls, wide receivers dropping passes, Cutler's health, Matt Forte's contract, Defensive health (without Peppers our defense really goes south fast).

Big concern: for the second year in a row, the Bears are rallying and bring a bunch of hype with them. We need to see organizational changes, and this is not you how make that happen.

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Congrats, Green Bay. You are no longer my least favorite division rival.

The Lions played some dirty fucking football. Absolutely uncalled for late hits, unsportsmanlike, dirty football.

I look forward to Detroit being mopped up during their next 5 games. Green Bay, I hope you put Detroit on its back.

Detroit = new most hated rival.

Edit: Oh. And I called it. Detroit is overrated (and the Bills) and had the fortune of an NFL lockout and no practice and a fairly easy-going opening schedule. They are a dirty team with a dirty fucking coach and they can't handle their momentum and energy. Megatron is your one dimensional out. Enjoy the long stretch of good teams + Green Bay + Minnesota.

Double Edit: Seriously! I can't believe how cocky the Lions (and their fans) are when they win. But when they lose? Fucking hand shake fiasco. They suddenly start playing dirty football. I mean even Stafford is taking cheap shots...I can't believe they ejected DJ Moore after that shit. Fuck you Stafford. If you want to dish out the cocky attitude when you win games, you better harden the fuck up when you lose games. Seriously, STFU and harden the fuck up.

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What?! The Bears are my favorite divisional rivalry. :(

The Lions do seem to have turned into a dirty team, which is a bit odd, because I always used to view them as gentle and pushovers. Schwartz comes off as a tool as well.

Also, that's great the Lions have Megatron. I'm glad we have Optimus Prime (Aaron Rodgers).

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What I meant to say was, I hate your team the most, so our rivalry was always my favorite. :D Now I have new found dislike for Detroit.

I feel like the Packers-Bears rivalry has become very gentlemanly. Like let's get our monocles, wine, and cigars good chap.

I actually never hated the Pack...but I always wanted to beat them the most. Having 10 years of Favre kicking your ass will do that to you. By year 7 or 8 of Favre beating us to a pulp...you just want to beat the Packers.

Now I just want to see the Lions get beat. Schwartz is an ass and a tool. I look forward to the next time the Bears and Lions meet, and same goes for the Packers vs. Lions.

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Well, suffice to say I am even more interested in our Thanskgiving day game against the Lions (I honestly haven't followed them very closely this year).

MNF should be fun tonight. I'm anticipating a lively crowd judging from my drive home after work.

Also, KG - check your PMs.

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Jon Gruden is a loveable goof. He is the next John Madden.

-Gruden on grounding tonight after Rodgers threw towards the sideline from the end zone.



I loved Madden's nonsensical ramblings and random comments about how awesome Brett Favre is. Seems like Gruden is all about Rodgers. I love the Monday night crew. Random F-bombs, nonsensical commentary....Gruden dressed up for Halloween. Lordy. Much better than the assclowns that did the Bears vs. Lions game. Brian Billick is boring and a moron.