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Well they have confirmed most of the details and some is as bad as expected while others are bad but could be worse

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

Some highlights
-No loaning/renting games at launch. May look into it down the line
-Need to connect to their servers at least once every 24 hours to play games.
-Trade-ins allowed to a certain degree. Only through certain retailers, and only if the publishers allow it.
-Publishers may also charge a fee for buying a used game.
-Can only "lend" a physical game once. Once you do, it's removed from your account and you lose ownership. And must have been friends for 30 days.
-Can play any of your games on any Xbox One using your account. But need to check in every hour.
-Can share your account with up to 10 people... This is kind of vague

Think those are the highlights.

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I'm willing to bet there will be some crazy restrictions on that last one. Like, you all have to be on the same Xbox family plan or something and have connected from the home xbox in the last 24 hours.

No thanks. I don't want to have to pull out a flow chart when I want to figure out how to lend a game or resell it.

Also, used games sells left up to the publisher. Might as well have disabled used game sales.

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NeXtbox is looking like its going to be not very good, whichs begs the question, why do I have to like Halo so much!? :'(

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The two really big MS exclusives, Gears of War and Halo, are both series that I'm just done with at this point. Those games will not sell me a console anymore.

Meanwhile Sony has Naughty dog in their pocket plus several JRPG developers that I like.

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Well, that is some bullshit. This may be where the industry is moving though.

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It may be, just depends on how sucsessful this system is. Which is why I hope it fails.. since I don't want the industry to go in that direction.

Hopefully Sony doesn't adapt to too much of the same.

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Reminding everyone...the Wii U is already out and we can confirm doesn't do any of these things. :p

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But nobody cares about Wii U hahahah

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They will. :)

True there's not a lot of reason to have one now (unless you did play some of the big games from the last year, ME3, AC3, Batman, Darksiders, etc) but pretty soon Nintendo is going to hit their stride with first party stuff.

Same with the 3DS. Started off very weak, but it's my favorite system right now. I play it every day.

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I have faith that the Wii U will do great. Maybe the coming year won't have much 3rd party support, but so far the first party line-up is looking great. By then, third parties will notice the machine as well.

I'm not worried and I'm really looking forward to the presentation tomorrow.

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Well it helps when your competition is giving you a hand

Microsoft announced that the Xbox One will launch in November for 500 bucks.
Which worked so well for the Ps3!

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Ps3 passed up 360 worldwide (again), and chances are it will end up ahead by a large margin lol. And it only sold about 80 million less than Ps2. Not too bad!!! lol

Sony has seriously been handed a golden oppertunity to take over again. Sony (seems) to have learned from their Ps3 mistakes.. but Microsoft looked at things completly different it seems.

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I wonder how much of that price is contributed by the Kinect.

If PS4 comes in at $399...that would be a huge deal. I've heard some speculation it could do $350, but that sounds really wishful.

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As long as they can get it to 400 they will be in a good position

i do hope they avoid multiple SKUs.. I hate those

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http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/mi...-dr/1100-4673/

Microsoft is apparently pulling back on every aspect of their DRM.

That's interesting and unexpected.

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MS has backtracked on all of their policies

http://majornelson.com/2013/06/19/yo...e-on-xbox-one/

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Yeah, I'm still not trusting them with my money.

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I dont know about all of them. Is a Kinect still required to be able to use the xbox?

Like you were going to before. :p

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It probably will be - they want to be able to guarantee to developers that every user will have one.

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That's awesome. Now they just have to allow you to use the system with the kinnect unplugged/disabled and I'll wish them all the luck in the world.

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Well, this is good news. I still think the pricepoint is too high, though.

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Yeah, I just have zero interest in kinect, and I assume that's where the extra price is coming from...so no way can I justify buying a more expensive system for a peripheral that I don't want.

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It's still a rumor at this stage, but it's been confirmed by some pretty reliable "leakers" that the family plan sharing feature originally part of the Xbox One DRM would have only been 60 minute demos.

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It was confirmed by crazy buttocks, I'm gonna take it as gospel

And I dont get it.. it was just a fancy.. and convoluted demo

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Convoluted was the name of the game for Xbox One DRM.

Some microsoft people have come out and said it was not demos, but you could in fact share complete games...but they have no reason to say it wasn't that, at this point.

I just can't see any publisher being okay with 1 person buying a game and 9 other people getting access for free.

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This is a decent amateur interview with Major Nelson at E3 where he refers to the sharing policy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RtSG...2ljEixyulzOnUQ

Personally, I'm leaning toward the PS4, but I have a 3 year old and I can see where Kinect could be a ton of fun for the family.