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Ginkasa 05-04-2003 02:29 PM

Might be a stupid question but...


What is Gambit's power? I know in the cartoon he threw cards that exploded, but was that it? I mean, that's pretty cool, but how would someone have a power to make cards explode? Did he just happen to use cards or what?

I've never been able t figure him out.


And DM, I think Iceman was in the cartoon. I seems to remember him from some point I think. I think I remember Pyro as well although you probably shouldn't rely too heavily on me.... And of course they were in the comics.


*shrugs and walks away*

Xantar 05-04-2003 03:54 PM

Gambit's power is to charge up any object until it becomes explosive. He could probably charge people up, but I never heard of him doing it. Anyway, he just carries a pack of cards for ammunition.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe 05-04-2003 04:27 PM

ya, xantar's right, he supposedly "kinetically charges" whatever he touches...but apparently its voluntary unlike rogue's powers, meh

*walks away*

Ginkasa 05-04-2003 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Xantar
Gambit's power is to charge up any object until it becomes explosive. He could probably charge people up, but I never heard of him doing it. Anyway, he just carries a pack of cards for ammunition.


Oh, that's pretty neat.


..........



*shrugs and walks away*

ZeroCool51 05-04-2003 06:57 PM

Iceman and Pyro were in the cartoon but they were only in a few episodes they had both left the x-men and were working solo iceman was good and pyro was bad.

Professor S 05-04-2003 07:35 PM

*Possible Spoilers for X3*







A little history according to the real source, Marvel comics (not the friggin cartoon)...

1) Pyro was a memeber of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants along with Magneto and Mystique, who later dropped Magneto and became Freedom Force, a government sponsored mutant special ops squad. I'm waiting for The Blob to come in the story, as he is one of the original villians.

2) Yes, Jean Grey did die in the comics, but on the Blue Area of the moon, where she was killed by an ancient lazer type weapon. She was later resurrected as Pheonix and was also cloned as Madeline and then.. well... it just goes on and on.

3) Hank McCoy, who was briefly in X2, is also known as Beast, and was one of the original 4 X-Men (Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel and Beast). He later turned blue during some botched experiment, and then got lots of chicks.

Question to comic book heads... was Jason Stryker also known as Legion?

Much of the stories of the 2 movies were developed by Chris Claremont, who is one of the best comic writers, hands down. He and penciller Mark Silvestri are the best team to ever draw and write an X-Men comic. Very dark and bleak at times. Fantastic stuff. Highly recommended.

Some of you might remember Jim Lee, but he blows. He spent all his time drawing hot chicks without moving the stories along.

My hope for X3? One word... Apocalypse... ohhhhhhhh yeah...

ZeroCool51 05-04-2003 08:14 PM

Apocalypse would be great in x-3 he was the best villian, he is immortal and can not be killed i dont ever remember the x-men killing him only shooting him out into space or something like that.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe 05-04-2003 10:12 PM

lol....well if apocalypse is coming for X3, than odds are cable's gonna be there too, cables great :D
:shock:
:Pulse:



btw....what's apocolypses background info??? where he come from? i never get a chance to read the comix :(

BlueFire 05-04-2003 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by Duffman
Apocalypse would be great in x-3 he was the best villian, he is immortal and can not be killed i dont ever remember the x-men killing him only shooting him out into space or something like that.
Apocalypse had a weak spot.

Ginkasa 05-04-2003 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
3) Hank McCoy, who was briefly in X2, is also known as Beast, and was one of the original 4 X-Men (Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel and Beast). He later turned blue during some botched experiment, and then got lots of chicks.



Really? When?



*shrugs and walks away*

Professor S 05-05-2003 01:17 PM

Hank was on the TV in some restaurant or something talking about Mutant legislation or something. He wasn't a part of any storyline, but just kind of in the background as a easter egg for long time XMen fans.

DarkMaster 05-05-2003 04:18 PM

who is Angel? for some reason, I dont remember that person at all...

and another thing, wasnt Sabertooth some kind of long time rival of wolverine? if so, it's kind of stupid that he died in the first x-men movie (unless he lived somehow or will raise from the dead for X3!) I always thought the back story with wolverine, sabertooth, and that chick (greyfox or something?) was pretty interesting in the cartoon

DeathsHand 05-05-2003 06:33 PM

I don't remember sabertooth dying in the first one... So maybe he just was 'lying low' for a bit or was in custody... or... something...

Or maybe he died and I just forgot...

Professor S 05-05-2003 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by DarkMaster
who is Angel? for some reason, I dont remember that person at all...

and another thing, wasnt Sabertooth some kind of long time rival of wolverine? if so, it's kind of stupid that he died in the first x-men movie (unless he lived somehow or will raise from the dead for X3!) I always thought the back story with wolverine, sabertooth, and that chick (greyfox or something?) was pretty interesting in the cartoon

If you want to read the real story behind the characters, read the comics. They infinitely better than the cartoon. even though the cartoon wasn't that bad.

To clarify some of your questions:

*possible spoilers for future X-Men movies*

Angel was an original X-Man from the comics. He had large bird wings. I know pretty lame, right? Well, he was lamne until Apocalypse got his hands on him, replacing his feathered wings with razor sharp metal wings that could shoot knives... very cool.

Sabertooth is Wolverine's father.

I think either Sabertooth and Toad will be brought back for the next movie, or they aske for too much money for X2. Their deaths were far too vague for that to be the end of them if they could agree to terms on a contract price.

GiMpY-wAnNaBe 05-05-2003 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler

Sabertooth is Wolverine's father.
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:eek: :WHOA:



are you sure??? i ain't no comic book nerd but i've never heard that

DeathsHand 05-05-2003 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
Their deaths were far too vague for that to be the end of them
Didn't Toad like... get struck by lightning and then fall from very high up?

Jewels 05-05-2003 09:35 PM

the movie was pretty cool SORRY JOEISS! for not adding spoilers..... anywho... i cant wait for the next one, and iceman was always my favorite

bobcat 05-06-2003 06:06 AM

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Originally posted by fingersman
*ANSWER TO SPOILER*









Yes she does...... and she comes back as one of the X-men's worst enemies.....and also as one as the most powerful mutants in X-men history........man she wrecks Havoc.

And who might that b?

bobcat 05-06-2003 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by The Strangler
all his time drawing hot chicks without moving the stories along.

My hope for X3? One word... Apocalypse... ohhhhhhhh yeah...

That big purple robot??

He was bloody invincible!?!?

fingersman 05-06-2003 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by bobcat
And who might that b?
Jean Grey. :D

And if they include Apocalypse then they have to include Cable and Sinister because Sinister help made Cable, for the soul purpose to destroy Apocalypse.


Oh yeah Apocalypse is like 2000 years old, he was deserted as a baby and a tribe of warriors from him, crying in the desert, took him in ( this is in Eygtian times) , but no one really knows if he dropped down from the moon or if he was born a mutant.


BTW why hasn't Rogue learnt to fly as yet? They have Rogue so crappy, she has super strenght and flight and I'm sure she developes them before Nightcrawler comes into the storyline.

And I want Gambit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Xantar's right as far as I know Gambit hasn't charged anyone up but I've seen him charge a big rock and shove it into someone's stomach , cool stuff.

Yup, yup I hope they do X3 2 times better than the second one.:D

BTW isn't Nightcrawler Mystique's son? I'm sure she is:confused:

Happydude 05-06-2003 09:56 AM

damn...pretty cool stuff, maybe i'll start reading the comics from somewhere...anyhoo...

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Originally posted by CrOnO_LiNk






MAJOR SPOILERS!







Wow, Colossus was awesome, I am sure he will kick ass in the next one.

where was colossus? :unsure:

EDIT:

nevermind...i remember who colossus is now...

GiMpY-wAnNaBe 05-06-2003 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fingersman
Jean Grey. :D

And if they include Apocalypse then they have to include Cable and Sinister because Sinister help made Cable, for the soul purpose to destroy Apocalypse.


Oh yeah Apocalypse is like 2000 years old, he was deserted as a baby and a tribe of warriors from him, crying in the desert, took him in ( this is in Eygtian times) , but no one really knows if he dropped down from the moon or if he was born a mutant.


BTW why hasn't Rogue learnt to fly as yet? They have Rogue so crappy, she has super strenght and flight and I'm sure she developes them before Nightcrawler comes into the storyline.

And I want Gambit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Xantar's right as far as I know Gambit hasn't charged anyone up but I've seen him charge a big rock and shove it into someone's stomach , cool stuff.

Yup, yup I hope they do X3 2 times better than the second one.:D

BTW isn't Nightcrawler Mystique's son? I'm sure she is:confused:


yep, mistiques the mommy :D

and rogue gets her strength powers by being on a team b4 the xmen, this team was run by mistique, and she obtianed the powers by holding on to another mutant until this other mutant went into a permanent coma, and rogue got her powers perminantly...i forget the name of the mutant tho...it was something like super woman....but thats DC:unsure:

Rndm_Perfection 05-08-2003 12:03 PM

I believe the movies are trying too hard to cram in characters. If memory serves me right, half of these characters should be more than twice their current age. Collosus and Iceman seem a bit too young.

I'm surprised that people don't know much about X-Men O_o. Maybe you're all too young, heh.

Xantar 05-08-2003 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by GiMpY-wAnNaBe
and rogue gets her strength powers by being on a team b4 the xmen, this team was run by mistique, and she obtianed the powers by holding on to another mutant until this other mutant went into a permanent coma, and rogue got her powers perminantly...i forget the name of the mutant tho...it was something like super woman....but thats DC:unsure:
That would be Ms. Marvel. A very secondary character in the lineup of Marvel superheroes who had her day several decades ago.

And to all of you people complaining that the movie doesn't have your favorite mutant or that it has too many mutants or that it's doing the timeline wrong: chill. Really. It's a movie, and that means it can't completely copy the comics no matter how much of a fan Bryan Singer is of the books (and we all know that he is a big fan). Just enjoy the movie as a movie and stop worrying about how faithful it is. I didn't see anybody kvetching about how many changes The Two Towers made from the original book. That's because we were all having fun in the movie theater, and we didn't really care. Why can't the same be true for an X-men movie?

Rndm_Perfection 05-08-2003 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Xantar
And to all of you people complaining that the movie doesn't have your favorite mutant or that it has too many mutants or that it's doing the timeline wrong: chill. Really. It's a movie, and that means it can't completely copy the comics no matter how much of a fan Bryan Singer is of the books (and we all know that he is a big fan). Just enjoy the movie as a movie and stop worrying about how faithful it is. I didn't see anybody kvetching about how many changes The Two Towers made from the original book. That's because we were all having fun in the movie theater, and we didn't really care. Why can't the same be true for an X-men movie?
Two Towers was far too well done for me to care. Some movies, however, get to the point where flaws can tamper with enjoyability. X-Men 2 is a fun movie, and I'd watch it in the theatre a few more times given the opportunity... but I'd have enjoyed it even more had it stayed remotely close to characterizations and timelines.

It just reminds me of how Spiderman kinda just squirted out webbing, rather than making cartridges. It messes with too broad of an area, methinks.

Canyarion 05-11-2003 10:17 AM

Long live the world-wide releases of cinema movies! :D
I saw it yesterday, it was great. The opening scene with Nightcrawler... :eek:

Rogue was even prettier than in part 1 (and Fly Away Home) and Famke Jansen was great too. Too bad they had to pull a Gandalf on her... :unsure:

Cool story, better than the first one. Magneto with the iron balls rules! :D

It was cool to see new mutants (Jubelee, Pyro..) although I don't think I saw Colossus... or I don't know who he was in the cartoons. Never read the comics.

Great movie, The Matrix Reloaded sure has a lot competition.... but I'm sure it can take it. :D

Crash 05-11-2003 04:36 PM

john (pryo) in the first movie, is different than john in the second movie. i hate when they do that!! :mad:

Joeiss 05-11-2003 04:37 PM

Oh well, I like the new Pyro. He potrayed the evil in him very well, IMO.

Joeiss 05-11-2003 08:08 PM

Sorry for the double post... But are there any good websites that have like bios on all of the Xmen characters? Because that would be very cool, because I am very interested in Xmen again.

Professor S 05-11-2003 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Rndm_Perfection
Two Towers was far too well done for me to care. Some movies, however, get to the point where flaws can tamper with enjoyability. X-Men 2 is a fun movie, and I'd watch it in the theatre a few more times given the opportunity... but I'd have enjoyed it even more had it stayed remotely close to characterizations and timelines.

It just reminds me of how Spiderman kinda just squirted out webbing, rather than making cartridges. It messes with too broad of an area, methinks.

Considering the amount of X-Men mythos that Singer has managed to squeeze into 2 movies, you guys should be grateful. There will always be differences in movies and the literature they are based on. The logistics and processes between the 2 mediums are just too great.

Also, to pick on Spiderman because of the l;ack of cartridges is silly. Truthdully, its the cartridges that don't make sense in the real world, which is the world that movie makers have to put you in. Besides, Spiderman was faithful to the comic to a flaw (wrestling event).

Movies have a smaller amount of lenience when it comes to suspension of dispbelief. Moviegoers will scoff at unbelieveable plotlines more than comic fans. Example: In order for the movie to remain true to the comic with Pheonix, you have toi do several things:

1)Somehow get the X-Men to the blue area of the moon.

2) Explain all the relics in the blue area of the moon.

3) Basically narrate the history of the Marvel universe.

Bryan Singer has a hard job. He has to be true to the comic, but avoid the rest fo the Marvel universe as its too cumbersome for the films. Example: Rogue. Do we really want to get into the whole Ms. Marvel thing?

My advice. Just sit down and enjoy the movie without referencing your Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.

Storm Eagle 05-14-2003 09:18 PM

I finally got to see it. I enjoyed it. Very well thought out, and all the characters were great. I'm sorry I missed out on the comic books, but at least the cartoons are still around for me to see. By the way, I cried when Jean Grey sacrificed herself, and Cyclops broke down.

Before I went to see the movie on Monday (May 12), I rented X-Men 1.5 on DVD. Since I enjoyed X2 so much, I plan to get the DVD when it comes out. That's why I then went and bought my own copy of X-Men 1.5 yesterday (May 13). I knew X-Men 1.5 would have a ticket that would allow you to see Daredevil for free, but I never knew that you could use it to see X2 for free as well. Looks like I'm going to be seeing X2 again. It might be good, since I know a certain girl who apparently plans to see it this weekend. Hmmmmmmmm. *strokes chin*


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