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Koopa 07-24-2003 03:36 AM

hey..this is koopa again....i havent been here in a loong time



uh well im pretty far into kotor, and ive gotta say its probably the best game ive played this year, if not one of the best of the last few years (yes, including Halo, Zelda:Wind Waker, Splinter Cell, Metroid Prime, Warcraft 3, and Battlefield 1942)
The combat is really very innovative..at first glance its very action-ish...but once you play it and look for the turn based engine "beneath the hood" its definitely noticable. you can queue up moves in real time, or pause, choose moves, fight, pause, choose more moves, unpause, etc....depending on your stats and using a dice-rolling system found in dungeons and dragons, the engine determines hits, misses, and counter-attacks and animates them so fluidly you'd swear they weren't turn based.
and thats not all...theres also the really cool dialogue system that actually affects things (unlike in zelda where they ask you to do something and you say no and they say "pleaseeee" until you agree)
most things have really nice, nice, neutral, bad, and reallly bad choices....and not all are as clear as you might think

for exampleeee...heres a VERY minor spoiler...theres a group of kids picking on an alien (some people are really racists..er ...alien-ist...prejudiced...) and so you can talk to them and either help the say "im not gonna get involved" or ask them to stop or tell the kids you'll murder them in cold blood if they dont stop, or help them beat up a poor old alien.


another minor spoiler invovels a a combat situation in which you can possibly redeem a dark jedi...i chose to keep fighting, and i found out later that she could have joined my party...in addition, her best friend got realllly mad at me for forsaking her and not trying to turn her back to the light....so about 20 horus later i find her in a sith base and she wants to kill me still.

graphics are okay...theyre great in combat, but in open areas they're just okay...although there are some nice money shots overlooking the sand dunes of tatooine, or having the sun behind yoru character in the tall grasses of dantooine.


uh the music...is great...very star-wars ish....a few tunes ripped from the trilogy, but mostly original stuff that has obvious influence from john williams (i wonder if he wrote the score) and any star wars fan will be in heaven hearing the cracks and hisses of lightsabers. oh yeah and, for a game, the voice acting is really great. i particularly love the slightly homocidal assasin droid HK-47...some of his lines made me laugh out loud :)

er...the story has loooots of nice influences from the trilogy...a fast ship, a wookie, a hint of some sort of dysfunctional romance, lots of bad guys in lots of armor that doesn't seem to work, and an evil empire with haughty, british accents. on an ironic note...and this is a minor spoiler................................when the sith are interrogating one of your party about where a jedi base is located, she lies says its on alderaan, when its really on dantooine....in the star wars trilogy, the imperials interrogate princess leia about the location of a hidden rebel base, which she lies about and says is on dantooine....but they imperials blow up alderaan...the star wars nerd inside me was grinning when i heard that. and theres an awesome plot twist that rivals the "Luke, I am your father." thing.

this game is so addictive, i swear...i'll tell myself im gonna play for 10 more minutes, and when i glance at the clock an hour has gone by.


games don't get much better than this...it might be a bit audacious to say this is the best rpg ever, but its certainly the best star wars rpg ever! :) (get it, cuz theres only two, and galaxies sucked... :) )

seriously.. buy this now...or if you must, wait for it on pc.

TheSlyMoogle 07-25-2003 10:47 PM

Re: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Reviews
 
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Originally Posted by Stonecutter
Hmm, well. Let's see.

There's:

Halo , JSRF, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Project Gotham Racing, Rallisport Challange, Brute Force, GUNVALKYRIE, Deathrow, MechAssault, Phantom Crash, and Crimson Sea.

Not to mention the best version of 90% of mulitplatform games.

Like I said nothing else that really interests me. Well Panzer sorta does but not really enough. And as for better versions of the other games that are all multiplatform, it's just not worth it to spend another 200 dollars to get the XBox when I could spend that 200 on around 4 more games, around 7 more if they were all GBA games. Lol. And anyway about 60% of all those multi-platform games released are sports games! Blah!

Hero2 07-25-2003 11:39 PM

Re: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Reviews
 
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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle
Like I said nothing else that really interests me. Well Panzer sorta does but not really enough. And as for better versions of the other games that are all multiplatform, it's just not worth it to spend another 200 dollars to get the XBox when I could spend that 200 on around 4 more games, around 7 more if they were all GBA games. Lol. And anyway about 60% of all those multi-platform games released are sports games! Blah!

what but halo i would spend 200 just for halo in fact i did that and steel batllion but im just good at wasting my hard earned money


no u cant have any

TheSlyMoogle 07-26-2003 02:12 AM

Re: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Reviews
 
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Originally Posted by Hero2
what but halo i would spend 200 just for halo in fact i did that and steel batllion but im just good at wasting my hard earned money


no u cant have any

Ahh I forgot about steel Bat. Ahhh! I really wanted that game forever there. But now that I have a job, I just don't know. Money is hard earned. Blah, I hate McDonalds! Anyway. Still that doesn't persuade me. It actually dissuades me. I know if I get an XBox I'll want Steel Battallion.

Hero2 07-27-2003 04:39 PM

i worked to get mine at DQ fast food sux ive moved up since then

bobcat 07-27-2003 06:00 PM

So KOTR has been released in the US?

Bond 07-27-2003 06:33 PM

Re: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Reviews
 
Yep.

TheSlyMoogle 07-28-2003 02:52 AM

Re: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Reviews
 
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Originally Posted by Hero2
i worked to get mine at DQ fast food sux ive moved up since then

Yes, it sucks! The other day I had some crazy lady throw a McGriddle in my face. It actually hit me in the face. And just Saturday this guy cursed me out because I swept the floor around his table. That really peeved me off. Oh things I do for a laptop...! (and some video games and systems on the side) ;)

bobcat 07-28-2003 04:17 AM

Re: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Reviews
 
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Originally Posted by Bond
Yep.

Oh but I want it!

Stonecutter 08-07-2003 03:41 PM

Even SomethingAwful couldn't find a way to hate on KotOR
 
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1604&p=

Dylflon 08-08-2003 01:10 PM



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