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Canyarion 02-01-2004 07:50 AM

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Well, in most rooms in REmake and RE0, you see TONS of stuff lying on the tables. Like empty bottles, lamps, papers, dirt, CDs, cups, plates.... Seems kinda hard to be done in 3D.

BTW does anyone have the movie for me? Stupid IGN one doesn't work.

Vampyr 02-01-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster
RE4, ho-hum. :-o
I was hoping for something new. :(

I am also dissapointed. :(

Im not a huge fan of the RE games. They scare me too much. :)

DeathsHand 02-01-2004 01:12 PM

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I swear if he's going nutzo over the graphics I'm gonna kill 'im...

It better be gameplay or story related... A big plot twist (though I doubt he'd know about that from playing a demo) or something... Or maybe a lot of new abilities for characters (and not just revamped controls with no new abilities, because I could deal with the same old RE controls again)...

Otherwise I'll kill him...

If any one of you touches my stuff... I kill ya...

CrOnO_LiNk 02-01-2004 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand
I swear if he's going nutzo over the graphics I'm gonna kill 'im...

It better be gameplay or story related... A big plot twist (though I doubt he'd know about that from playing a demo) or something... Or maybe a lot of new abilities for characters (and not just revamped controls with no new abilities, because I could deal with the same old RE controls again)...

Otherwise I'll kill him...

If any one of you touches my stuff... I kill ya...

This sucks... We all knew that RE4 was going to be awesome... No Big info there. :(

GameKinG 02-01-2004 04:13 PM

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Well, matt knew it would be awsome to, but apparently awsome is an insult to the game.

DeathsHand 02-01-2004 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GameKinG
Well, matt knew it would be awsome to, but apparently awsome is an insult to the game.

's graphics...

GameMaster 02-01-2004 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GameKinG
Well, matt knew it would be awsome to, but apparently awsome is an insult to the game.

Insulting new games is really fun. Expect plenty more dissing from me. Insulting Matt is fun also. Hey Matt, I think RE is ****ty, does that do your little game justice? Thanks for disappointing me. I was hoping for something cool, I'll never trust your exaggerations again. Pfft. You just got served.

GameKinG 02-01-2004 11:20 PM

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Will you stop it with your graphics nonsense!

I assure you, 100% its not about graphics. 100%.

Crash 02-02-2004 12:33 AM

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guy at capcom: "hey, if you pump our game up, and give us a lot of publicity, we'll let you play a demo!"
guys at IGN: "you've got yourself a deal"

Canyarion 02-02-2004 10:14 AM

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Hehe :D Why would Capcom do that? Too much hype kills a game!!!

Anyway, I beated RE0. :p The extra game is nice I guess... am I right if I say that I should FIRST kill all the enemies... and THEN collect the leech charms?? :)

Oh yeah, Rebecca is DAMN HOT IN LEATHER! :eek: Seriously, I always thought of her as 'cute', but after seeing this... :drool:

Anyway :unsure:

TheGame 02-02-2004 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster
Hey Matt, I think RE is ****ty, does that do your little game justice? Thanks for disappointing me. I was hoping for something cool, I'll never trust your exaggerations again.

Amen... hype, hype, hype, that's all Nintendo has been to me this generation, and it's getting harder and harder to buy into it. I mean, what makes Matt think that this is worthy of such huge hype?

Now we can never trust if somthing is going to be a big announcement or not... and if this game is mediocre it just makes hype for the Nintendo brand alltogether harder to believe...

I can't wait to see him drooling over Nintendo's next system, because by then we won't know if his brand of hype is justified or not. I think IGN needs to fire this guy and let him go work for Nintendo power ;)

DeathsHand 02-02-2004 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GameKinG
Will you stop it with your graphics nonsense!

I assure you, 100% its not about graphics. 100%.

And you know this how? My guess is as good as yours as to what he's talking about, and my guess is that he's just being a dumbass and hyping the graphics like everyone's done since RE moved to NGC...

Have they come up with an amazing new control scheme? Maybe...

Have they come up with some awesome new storyline or something? Maybe...

Is Matt pissing himself over graphics again? Maybe...

Booyaka...

I hope I'm right so I can laugh at IGN...

Jonbo298 02-02-2004 06:30 PM

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*sits back with a trash bag of popcorn as I watch all the Nintendo bashing going on*
*ponders why people bitch to me when I say anything bad about Sony or Microsoft*
meh, oh well.
*just sits back with above mentioned*

GameKinG 02-02-2004 08:22 PM

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Matt rarely hypes a game, and never like this (except for metroid prime). And he definetely is never agreed with by a ps2 editor and an unrelated 1up.com editor.

Plus, matt has been writing cryptic messages (with the first letter of each word being the message). Things like: "Amazing gameplay, me likey".

rottwylor 02-03-2004 12:06 AM

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all I wanna do is zooma zoom zoom in your boom boom... I can't wait for E3

Dark Samurai 02-03-2004 08:04 AM

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i was planing 2 years in advance to go to E3

i moved from California to New Jersey so im not going this year maybe next :unsure:

but i cant wait for E3 either

Null 02-03-2004 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298
*sits back with a trash bag of popcorn as I watch all the Nintendo bashing going on*
*ponders why people bitch to me when I say anything bad about Sony or Microsoft*
meh, oh well.
*just sits back with above mentioned*


psst, you didnt mention anything. you just thought some stuff. we're not mind readers. :p

and isnt this just matts weekly game hype?

TheGame 02-03-2004 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GameKinG
Matt rarely hypes a game, and never like this (except for metroid prime).

You mean the over-hyped over rated Mertroid Prime? Well, that just makes me buy into his hype even less. :p

Null 02-03-2004 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame
You mean the over-hyped over rated Mertroid Prime? Well, that just makes me buy into his hype even less. :p


prime wasnt IMO overated, at least not as much as others *coughhalocough*

but indeed it was VERY over hyped, seems like nintendo could say its raining outside and IGN would find a way to overhype it.

DeathsHand 02-03-2004 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Null
prime wasnt IMO overated, at least not as much as others *coughhalocough*

but indeed it was VERY over hyped, seems like nintendo could say its raining outside and IGN would find a way to overhype it.

I havn't played Halo at all, but IMO Metroid and Eternal Darkness were two of the most over-hyped games this generation :sneaky:

Null 02-03-2004 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand
I havn't played Halo at all, but IMO Metroid and Eternal Darkness were two of the most over-hyped games this generation :sneaky:

not doubting that, i never played ED tho, but id definently thro Halo in with them.
but i was calling halo overated, didnt comment on it being over hyped. :p

rottwylor 02-03-2004 05:19 PM

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See... a lot of that is subjective... I loved both Metroid and ED... a lot... and I didn't find them over hyped at all =)

TheGame 02-03-2004 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Null
prime wasnt IMO overated, at least not as much as others *coughhalocough*

but indeed it was VERY over hyped, seems like nintendo could say its raining outside and IGN would find a way to overhype it.

Halo wasn't over-hyped... and it's the fans doing it to Halo 2, not some IGN editor trying to build it up :p

If Halo was over-hyped, I must have missed the hype train, because I didn't get an Xbox until early 2003 and I ddn't think about buying halo until a few months after buying an Xbox... I wans't even thinking about halo, played it and I'm now pissed that I didn't get it the day it came out.

It's the best console FPS this generation, and put of all the launch games I have played for any platform this gen, the best game. I'm saying this after ignoring it's release and simply turning a blind eye to it for over a year.

Null 02-03-2004 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame
Halo wasn't over-hyped... and it's the fans doing it to Halo 2, not some IGN editor trying to build it up :p

If Halo was over-hyped, I must have missed the hype train, because I didn't get an Xbox until early 2003 and I ddn't think about buying halo until a few months after buying an Xbox... I wans't even thinking about halo, played it and I'm now pissed that I didn't get it the day it came out.

It's the best console FPS this generation, and put of all the launch games I have played for any platform this gen, the best game. I'm saying this after ignoring it's release and simply turning a blind eye to it for over a year.


check it again bro. over RATED. i said originally. then agreed about the games you mentioned being over hyped. theres a diff.

And the best Console FPS Halo might be, and that makes me really depressed about console FPS's because as a PC FPS'er when i finally played the game on both PC and Xbox...... MAJOR DISSAPOINTMENT. i guess it just showed me how far ahead FPS's have come on PC. in PC magazines it was rated one of the biggest dissapointments of the year to pc fans. i returned the game for PC the next day. and its been rated to be slightly improved - exact same single player. I didnt try single tho and maybe thats where its at, but multi is what i like and it was no where near up to standards.

But anywho, i was saying overated. not overhyped.

i agree prime was over hyped. i dont feel it was overrated tho. kinda the opposite. heh.


*shrug*

GameMaster 02-03-2004 07:15 PM

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As long as we're talking about overhyped/rated games, could I throw Soul Calibur 2 into the conversation?

Wow. Big disappointment. Smash Bros. is so much more engaging. Anyone want to buy my SC2, I don't want it anymore.

rottwylor 02-03-2004 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster
As long as we're talking about overhyped/rated games, could I throw Soul Calibur 2 into the conversation?

Wow. Big disappointment. Smash Bros. is so much more engaging. Anyone want to buy my SC2, I don't want it anymore.

I'll give ya a nickle..

...it's shiny and new!

GameKinG 02-03-2004 09:32 PM

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Halo really is over rated. The level design on single player is really bad and repetative around the middle of the game through the end. Multiplayer is ok, but there are no extra modes I have found that you can play alone, which is a bummer. The only multiplayer map I really like is 'Hang em High'.

I thought MP was over rated when I started playing it too. I got it, played it for 3 1/2 hours, was going in circles, and quit. 4 months later I gave it another chance, and found where I was suppose to go (instead of in circles). From there it was smooth sailing. I got all the upgrades, the puzzles and bosses are great have awsome use of weapons and power ups. Its now my favorite game. :)

Although I did have to cheat with an FAQ to figure out where to go initialy (and get out of that damn circle). But whatever it takes...Its a good balance of freedom and restriction, you can go a lot of places but eventually your gunna be locked out of them all and only have one option that will lead you to the weapon that will open up the doors you were locked out of.

Null 02-04-2004 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster
As long as we're talking about overhyped/rated games, could I throw Soul Calibur 2 into the conversation?

Wow. Big disappointment. Smash Bros. is so much more engaging. Anyone want to buy my SC2, I don't want it anymore.


dont forget to put smash bros slightly above sc2 in the overrated catagory.

i mean. could we get more corny and silly in that game?


;p

Canyarion 02-04-2004 08:09 AM

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I really hope they won't only use the 'over-the-shoulder' view. I really can't imagine that it will be comfy.
We need the original camera posistions, with an option to change to the shoulder view, in case you want to see what enemies are in the room. I really hate wasting bullets/health because I can't see what's going on. :(

TheGame 02-04-2004 11:33 AM

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Well, Null, how can the best be over-rated? Did it get perfect scores? No, but the game did come out 2 1/2 years ago and has yet to be topped by a console FPS... maybe that didn't justify the scores back then, but it more than justifies the score now.

(oh, and sorry for all the errors in my last post, I was in a mad rush)

GKG, while Halo's level design may get repetitive, the fact that you go back through the level makes sense both to the story and to the reality of the situation. If you dig yourself into a hole, you have to dig your way out... this isn't zelda, there is no circle of light to step on after you defeat the boss to take you to the front of the dungeon.

I don't want to turn this into a Halo vs Metriod thread... but what Halo has in it's single player that Metriod lacks is a story that drives me to play. Great games almost always give you a reason to play from the gate. Compare the first level of Halo to the first "level" of Metriod Prime, no contest.

Null 02-04-2004 11:56 AM

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Well, Null, how can the best be over-rated? Did it get perfect scores? No, but the game did come out 2 1/2 years ago and has yet to be topped by a console FPS... maybe that didn't justify the scores back then, but it more than justifies the score now.

to me its not the best tho. But, what im saying is if thats whats its reconized as, so be it, but that really saddens me about console FPS's in general.

but there hasnt really ever been a console FPS i could truly enjoy, so thats where my opinion would come from. im sure its quite differnt from PC fps'ers to Console ones.

and whats with all this halo talk? all i did was make a little cough jab at it. lol :D

TheGame 02-04-2004 12:58 PM

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to me its not the best tho. But, what im saying is if thats whats its reconized as, so be it, but that really saddens me about console FPS's in general.

Well, we know as long as console FPSs use a controller you won't like them. But, the fact is there are many who do like the FPS genre on consoles even moreso than on PC.

Null 02-04-2004 01:13 PM

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Well, we know as long as console FPSs use a controller you won't like them. But, the fact is there are many who do like the FPS genre on consoles even moreso than on PC.


too true, And there are also people who like aol dial up more then broadband. :p Also people who like a huge fat woman instead of a model. etc.

opinion in that regard is opinion. :p

Opinion is also pushed by loyalties, peers, fanboyism, etc. So many opinions are unjustified. nonetheless are still opinions.

And btw. theres more too it then the control issue. (which your right, is probably the major issue) There are other things that make PC FPS's better.

But now this is going away from a halo fight and into a PC vs Console fight.......... What was this topic about originally anyway? ;)

TheGame 02-04-2004 01:59 PM

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too true, And there are also people who like aol dial up more then broadband. :p Also people who like a huge fat woman instead of a model. etc. [/b]

Yep, and the AOL Fat girl lovers are the PC FPS lovers ;)

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Opinion is also pushed by loyalties, peers, fanboyism, etc. So many opinions are unjustified. nonetheless are still opinions.
Agreed... but my opinion isn't pushed by any of that as I explained :D :sneaky:

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And btw. theres more too it then the control issue. (which your right, is probably the major issue) There are other things that make PC FPS's better.
Which is? All I can think of is online play.

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[b]But now this is going away from a halo fight and into a PC vs Console fight.......... What was this topic about originally anyway? ;)
Don't worry about that ;)

thatmariolover 02-04-2004 02:23 PM

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I don't think Halo was overhyped. Definately overrated (one word) now that it's out in my opinion, but not overhyped. It's a fun game to be sure. But I really got sick of it about 1/2 way through and really found it difficult to stick with it until the end (although i did finish it). The multiplayer is fun, but again, I can only play for a little while before I decide I'd rather be shoveling snow. But you know what? I really don't like FPS games in general, so I'm not going to continue.

Eternal Darkness found a special place in my heart. The game should have been way longer, and way more frightening than it ever was. But I still really enjoyed it. The story and the sanity effects were enough to keep me excited about the game until the end.

This whole RE4 possibility seems unlikely. I think that, yes, they did see a number of Capcom games. But they signed a blanket NDA (covering several or all of the games that they saw) so they can't comment on RE4 or the other games the played. I personally think that it's probably still another game. And if it is RE4, I'm going to be really disappointed. It seems like it's just going to be a Silent Hill ripoff with a crappy storyline (i.e. every other Resident Evil game storyline).

Don't Flame me yet!

Equips Helm of Epic Flame Resistance (Flame Damage 30/ )

OK. Now you guys can have your go...

Null 02-04-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame
Yep, and the AOL Fat girl lovers are the PC FPS lovers ;)

lol, yea i saw that joke comeing almost as soon as i posted it. hehe.

now after yours i could just [insert a [your mama] joke here] and we'd all laugh and be done with that. ;)

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Which is? All I can think of is online play.
Wellllllllllll since you asked...
Control, major issue, the fact that you get more of it, make any key/button do anything you want.

more ability to change/customize your game, graphics/effects/scripts to do differnt things (non cheatwise) like on my FPS games i script little things to do things like put my own differnt crosshair for each weap, make scroll wheel cycle only weaps i use and skip over ones i dont. etc.

Game types, a whole ton more of em.

Addons / Mods, these things are endless and all free.

online as you mentioned many things come from that.

real map editors. not cheap ones like in consoles that cycle thro difernt preset things. i mean real ones, where you draw the 3d object, texture it in your own way, using a professional program.

not to mention PC ones are faster, smoother And dont need auto aim. :p

I could go on.

Problem me and you face when doing this argument tho Game, is that i dont play single player. I dont enjoy it, its far too easy for me to go and chase around a pre programed bot instead of a real thinking human.

i think you play more Single player because you enjoy the story more. no?

many of the FPS's i play dont come with a single player at all because they're purely online Multiplayer. So we're looking for 2 differnt things.

Crash 02-04-2004 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGame
I don't want to turn this into a Halo vs Metriod thread... but what Halo has in it's single player that Metriod lacks is a story that drives me to play. Great games almost always give you a reason to play from the gate. Compare the first level of Halo to the first "level" of Metriod Prime, no contest.


I loved Metroid's story line, I thought it was great that the only was to learn what was happening was by reading logs. Halo is just totally different. Run in guns blazing FPS, Metroid is more, Use your brain to finish the game, I like both even though both are repetitive. I love the halo multiplayer and wonder what the metroid multiplayer will be. I can almost guarantee that the next metroid will have some sort of zooming cannon on one of the guns.

TheGame 02-04-2004 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Null
i think you play more Single player because you enjoy the story more. no?

many of the FPS's i play dont come with a single player at all because they're purely online Multiplayer. So we're looking for 2 differnt things.

Well, I enjoy Single Player and Multi Player... How I would rank them:

#1: Co-op Story mode
#2: Multi Player
#3: Single Player Story Mode

I think Halo's Muli-Player was great... it's downfall was that it wasn't online (and didn't have any bots). I love a good 16 player game of CTF more than anything though.

I think they key difference between me and you is that I can't stand playing ANY Action games on a keyboard and mouse... I could probably stand an RPG, or games like Sim City, but any action oriented game I can't deal with on a keyboard and mouse :p

Null 02-04-2004 04:09 PM

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I think they key difference between me and you is that I can't stand playing ANY Action games on a keyboard and mouse... I could probably stand an RPG, or games like Sim City, but any action oriented game I can't deal with on a keyboard and mouse :p

diffent types of games call for differnt types of setups. FPS's need keyboard/mouse. Thats much of the reason why console fps's are so much slower, they cant keep up with the pace of a PC setup. that and they impliment auto aim to make up for the lack of aiming ability.

i know the reason you cant stand it. its the same as most console players. its kinda like pitting the casual gamer vs the competitive one.

to each is own. i have no intention of making you like a differnt setup. :)

thatmariolover 02-04-2004 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash
I loved Metroid's story line, I thought it was great that the only was to learn what was happening was by reading logs. Halo is just totally different. Run in guns blazing FPS, Metroid is more, Use your brain to finish the game, I like both even though both are repetitive. I love the halo multiplayer and wonder what the metroid multiplayer will be. I can almost guarantee that the next metroid will have some sort of zooming cannon on one of the guns.

Indeed. I thought Metroid had a great storyline. I hated Halo's storyline after the first 4 hours of the game. And at the end... The sheer thought that they were going to release a sequel because there's spoiler more than one Halo end spoiler just made me cringe. The lone thought that there would be more repitious floods brought me to my knees contemplating suicide.

The thing that Metroid lacks that Halo (and many other games) have is a connection to the outside world. I hated feeling so alone in Metroid.

Deus Ex, though. That games got it all. That's the FPS of our lifetime IMO.


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