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F**KIN' FINALLY!

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What I liked most about the Flyers game is that despite leading 3-0 in the series against the Penguins - the fans started to boo the Flyers in the 2nd because they weren't the ones doing the blowing (out).

It pleases me to know that Vancouver fans aren't the only fickle retards.


I find it crazy how even though Luongo is on the Canucks, he can still let in a lot of goals for every other team. What a horrible goalie.

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The fans were booing because the Flyers decided to stop playing defense and were horrible with their goaltending. They also gave up halfway through the second period. We only boo our team when we expect more out of them, not because we expect them to be blowing out other teams. If they won 4-3 again we'd be happy.

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Penguins stay alive and bye bye to the Red Wings.

I think my tv is broken the, it said the penguins / flyers game was 3 - 2

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Torres got 25 games for that hit.
That's a massive suspension, but I've always been in favour of the idea of getting away from the stupid 3-5 game suspensions. If you're missing 25 games opposed to 3, you'll probably re-evaluate the types of hits you make.


On one hand I'm terrified it could take massive hits out of the game (rather than taking out the dirty hits), but on the other hand I figure it's good to try to deter players from blatantly injuring other players. There has seemed to be a lot more of that going on this year.


edit:

Here's a quote from the statement that Brendan Banahan released.

If they get knocked out pretty quick this year - all of that money can add up fast.

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Ottawa is poised to upset the Rangers.

Florida might win a series.

Pittsburg and Philly score a million goals a piece.

Nashville knocks out Detroit in the first round.

Boston may be knocked out in first round.

Canucks on verge of defeat, must pull off reverse sweep to stay alive.

These playoffs are pretty crazy so far.

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Philly fans get a lot of crap. For the most part, it's because they're smarter about sports than the talking heads on the TV or Radio. They know the Flyers are in trouble right now, leading the series or not.

Also, Philly fans are unique in that they value hard work over winning. Losing, while leaving your body and soul on the field of play, is as respected as winning. Lose by giving up or showing weakness? Ooooooohhh... that's a doomsday scenario. See: Donovan McNabb.

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I'm liking the earlier start time tonight.

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Good so far for the Flyers. I want all the low seeds to win in the East. The Flyers would be the highest seed as a number 5 if NJ, DC, and Ottawa can pull it off!

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(Giroux is ridiculous. It still amazes me how underrated he was this year. But 14 points in 6 playoff games? Fuck me.)

Rant rant rant.

After hearing every anti-Vancouver fan (or anti-Luongo fan, I suppose) cry for trades over the last 2 years for "poor play" (for a superstar) - what should happen to Fleury?

Surly if the "trade Lou" talk starts 5 minutes after a single loss even in the regular season - Fleury can't get off the hook with the media, and the non-home-team-fans after letting in 26 goals, and having something like a 4.50 GAA in 6 games.
He's a superstar goalie, too. If not superstar-ier than Lou, because he has a cup - and Vancouver fans seem to attribute goalie-worth to rings. It's crazy how Fleury's previous cup win didn't help him currently stop a puck. Fucking nuts!

I know.
Trade Lou for Fleury.
That way all the cunts here in Vancouver get their coveted goaltender who already has a cup ring, and Pittsburgh gets a goalie who still has the want and desire to prove his worth to everyone who constantly shits in his mouth.

Then our fans can shut the fuck up about a goalie with a cup at least until Fleury loses game 2 next year and then start crying for "Trade Fleury", and Luongo can finally succeed in a city that doesn't rape it's goaltenders to sleep with their own tears as lube.

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Is keeping Schneider not an option?

I feel so bad for Luongo. If he wasn't a stand-up guy it would be another thing, but he really doesn't deserve the constant flack he gets (it also surely doesn't help his confidence at all).

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ugh.

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It's not impossible that they can keep both goalies. Realistically it doesn't seem like either of them want to leave. They both seem to like the duo they've got going.

The thing is that Schneider's contract is up this year and he's a restricted free agent (opposed to unrestricted) - so only the Canucks have the right to renew his contract (until a specific date), or offer him a new one. He still has the right to sign or not sign - but if he decides its in his best interest to wait for another team to sign him to an offer sheet (which the Canucks would then have to match, or accept draft pick compensation) - which he will probably do, then there's no real way we can keep him.

The reason I think he's gone is because statistically he could be making millions and millions. On almost any other team he's a starting goalie. I can see a team trying to sign him for 3-4 million, depending on the team and the cap floor they're at - but if that happens, the Canucks wouldn't/couldnt match that offer - because you don't want to pay 3 million for a backup goalie.

Unless they match it with the intention of trading Luongo later in the next season. Public opinion has definitely been known to sway trades and team makeup.

I agree completely.
People just don't give him credit. I don't understand it. He does something bad, it's 100% his fault. Something good happens near him, it's 100% in spite of him. I probably have said this exact same thing in here already, but fuck it - I'll do it again - hasn't stopped me before.

I'll find a ridiculous stat from the Olympics - which has not translated into any praise for him, because goalies can't score game winning goals.

Brodeur started the Olympics and was completely shitting the bed for a superstar Canadian goaltender who is supposed to be leaps and bounds above Roberto Luongo. Canada was in a hole because of Martin Brodeur.

Martin Brodeur's 2012 Olympic Stats:

2 games played
1 Win
1 Loss
0 Shutouts
2.90 G.A.A.

In steps Roberto Luongo; The eternal goat, to save the day.

Roberto Luongo's 2012 Olympic stats:

5 games played
5 wins
0 Losses
1 shutout
1.76 G.A.A.


Someone might look at that and say "Well maybe the team was playing better" - to which I retort; 'feck off'. The team definitely did play better as a whole. But that probably has something to do with the fact that it's a hell of a lot easier to win when your goalie is letting in well-under 2 goals a game opposed to almost 3.

Where was Brodeur when the gold was won? The bench.
Where was Lou? Protecting that mofuggin' net.


As a Canucks fan I'm so afraid all the bandwagonners will force a Luongo trade. Luongo is the best thing to happen to this team in the crease. Who was our Superstar goalie before Lou? Mclean? Potvin? Cloutier? Irbe? Weekes? Ha-fucking-ha.

All of our goalies have realistically fucking sucked in comparison to the league at the time. We finally get an amazing goalie and we hold the shitty underdog standards we had for those other poop-chuckers onto him. Lou is not an underdog. He does not play like an underdog. He is an Adonis. He is a living sculpture of perfection - so long as he is treated as such.

I'm sick of the "we as fans expect him to do so much better" excuse. He is amazing. Look at his stats.


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And all I have to say about the loss is that they clearly didn't deserve to win with the way they were playing. They only played playoff hockey once, and it happened to be the game they won. The winners win, the losers lose. No undeserving team wins. It's as simple as that, and I truly believe it.

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News is this morning, Luo just asked Gillis for a trade out.

....

fuckkkk, no bargaining power.

Can't see them getting much for a luo + raymond deal. I don't blame Luongo for wanting out of the city.

Shneider won't be cheap either..

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Lou didn't ask for a trade.
There is no controversy.
Gillis asked Luongo and Schnieder if they'd both start 41 games.