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BigJustinW 12-15-2003 06:13 PM

Re: The official N5 thread: speculate!!
 
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Originally Posted by thatmariolover
I'm really sick of them because they're not giving us what we want, they're giving us what they think we should want. It's like gifts from my parents during my younger years.

Good point.

*registers to Justin's Nintendo-bashing database*

thank you, +Rep ;)

Null 12-15-2003 06:18 PM

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well what you, and everyone else wants, doesnt seem to make them as much money as what they think you want.

so maybe as they keep losing fans and costomers. they'll start to see what really makes them money. :p :hmm: or something

BigJustinW 12-15-2003 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Null
well what you, and everyone else wants, doesnt seem to make them as much money as what they think you want.

so maybe as they keep losing fans and costomers. they'll start to see what really makes them money. :p :hmm: or something

lol... you captured the essense of the problem.

Fan support is more important than making money in the end. Nintendo is lucky to have fans who are pretty much slaves to them... if Nitnendo's fans were as loyal to Nintendo as Nintendo is to them Nintendo would be dead.

Nintendo isn't #1 right now, so they are gonna have to take a financial hit to get back up there. I just don't see this happening. They will most likely stay cheap and slowly but surly Nintendo's home consoles will die off. GBA will meet it's match one day too, with it's lack of innovation and extremely cheap hardware it's a matter of time until Nintendo will have to invest more into it to survive.

It's pretty sad when I think about it... they are dying a slow and painful death. By the time they are willing to give up and join with other companies they may not be worth that much.

Jason1 12-15-2003 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Here's my rendition of the N5 (made in Mario Paint!).

Nice...very nice. I like the waffle temperature LCD.

thatmariolover 12-16-2003 12:10 AM

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Haha. Thanks for all of the positive feedback guys.

And yes, I was running Mario Paint in an emulator :D I made that in like ten minutes. So, not bad, considering I haven't used it in ages...

In all seriousness, though, I want a HD and BBA, better graphics, and more disk space. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with hardware. I just want more software.

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Nice...very nice. I like the waffle temperature LCD.
Yeah, I liked that. Too bad it will never happen. Nintendo would sooner make us hook our GBA up to the system to get a super cool readout like that.

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*registers to Justin's Nintendo-bashing database*
Haha. And look at that. I willingly gave BJW ammunition :D I bet you never thought you'd see the day.

MasterMind 12-16-2003 01:07 AM

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Can't they use the same kind of disc format? Except just making it the standard size? How much memory could a disc like that hold? I think thats what they might end up doing. That way the can still have backwards compatibility and not worry so much about software pirating.

Jonbo298 12-16-2003 01:21 AM

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As long as Nintendo can have nearly the same file size as whatever disk medium the other 2 companies use, Nintendo will stand a better chance getting more 3rd Party titles...but only time will tell.....

Canyarion 12-16-2003 10:25 AM

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If they stick with GODs, they better have about 5x as much capacity.
Ehm I agree with TML and BJW and stuff. :)

Shadow Fox 12-16-2003 02:14 PM

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Well, here's my listing of what N5/GameCube 2/Project Reality 2 should be:

Bluetooth Wireless wavebirds standard. This deletes the need for controller ports, but they should also be there to support GCN 1 wavebirds and gamepads. Up to 8 Wavebird 2's can be used on one GCN via bluetooth.

8cm Blue Ray or OptiRon DVD technology. Screw going to 12cm discs like Sony and MS. 8cm works for shorter loads, and with Blue Ray and OptiRon 20-1000GB capacity, there will NEVER be a need for two disc games. Game data can also be rewritten to the disc optionally instead of internal SRAM or portable SD memory.

Onboard SRAM directly in the hardware instead of an HD. Harddrives crash, and can become corrupt. SRAM can too, but usually at the lifespan of the entire console. Not to mention it's loads faster than what any HD could ever hope of transferring per nanosecond. The only downfall to this is SRAM is damn-near $1000 more expensive, so 1-T SRAM is probably more logical, with SD cards as backup.

Default bluetooth Wavebird configuration. Four analog triggers like PS2, with the same digital overrides (digital "clicks") seen in the Wavebird 1 pad. N64-sized D-pad, clickable analog sticks, Select button, and an analog toggle switch should exist on both the gamepad itself as well as on the console for override purposes. Varying GCN2 pads should also exist, like Wavebirds for fighting purists that resemble SNES controllers. Sony will be pissed.

DVD playback tray. Full-size 12cm/8cm tray supports both GCN BlueRay/OptiRon discs as well as future 12cm DVD-9 movie content, with upgradeable Divx and mp3 codecs (something Xbox and PS2 are currently missing). Support for rewritable/writable mediums, as well as multi-mode discs (game/music/movie). Built-in IR/bluetooth for optional remote.

Hyper-Z shaders implemented in Flipper 2 ISA/GPU. Allowing full-function, programmable GPU ops for automatic graphical upgrades of older GCN games, as well as unparalleled achievement in REALTIME RAYTRACING (though buffered). Flipper 2's estimated internal bandwidth should be no less than 100GB/sec, with texture read bandwidth at over 1TB/sec. Flipper 2 will boast 42 simultaneous texture layers, 32 infinite hardware lights, and an average of 60 million polygons per second in realworld applications.

Next-Gen Gameboy also Bluetooth Wireless with GCN2. Considering Nintendo's current philosophy, this goes without saying. Up to 8 GBA2's can link up wirelessly to GCN2 as controllers or extra feature devices. In a smaller role, GBA2's and GCN2's can also communicate with newer iPod's via bluetooth, and custom soundtracks can be made directly from your collection in the touch of a button, or game soundtracks can be taken with you on the road.

Full 802.11e Wi-Fi support for online gaming. No longer will you need a wireless bridge or multiple hubs to link Nintendo to your network- it will see and auto configure on first boot.

Built-in 1080p and Plasma Deflicker HDTV options. This massive frame buffer will no-doubt handle any resolution thrown at it for years to come.

Built-in Dolby Pro Logic IIx, DD 5.1, DD 7.1, and THX Digital 9.1 Surround for massive gaming experiences. Recievers are auto-detected by games, and set for optimal aural surroundscape. Official optical DTS connectors derived from Apple's G5 HDTV ports.

Killer Apps. Factor 5 creates a Killer Instinct-killer and PilotWings, along with the expected Rogue Squadron sequel, Silicon Knights finally releases Too Human and Eternal Darkness II, Valve updates Half-Life 2 for GCN2, Nspace brings Geist 2, Metroid Genesis and Raven Blade finally arrive from Retro, while Castlevania 6 (true sequel to the SNES game) and Resident Evil 5 debut for launch. Nintendo EAD also brings Super Mario World 3, The Legend of Zelda: Dragon Scale, Smash Bros 3, and two new titles- Massacre (a bloody RPG in the vein of Golden Sun), and Retrograde (a mixture of GTA and Legacy of Kain substance).

And with those expectations, there's no way Nintendo (or anyone else for that matter) can meet them. I'll still be looking forward to it, though...;)

-Official Ninja and Writer of [coming soon]...

Jonbo298 12-16-2003 07:17 PM

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*Doesn't feel like quoting that entire thread...so input below*
Don't we all wish Nintendo would take those expectations and make it a reality for $200-$250. But unforunately, I doubt it will happen:(

Jason1 12-16-2003 07:54 PM

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If nintendo really did all that, we would all have to give our sorry ass lives to them, because we are not worthy.

BigJustinW 12-16-2003 10:20 PM

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ShadowFox... you have some great ideas, too bad I can't see Hardware like that csting less than $400... All you are missing is the remote control that can turn the system on like a VCR, and the 12 disc CD/DVD/Game changer ;)

thatmariolover 12-17-2003 01:01 PM

Re: The official N5 thread: speculate!!
 
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Originally Posted by BigJustinW
ShadowFox... you have some great ideas, too bad I can't see Hardware like that csting less than $400... All you are missing is the remote control that can turn the system on like a VCR, and the 12 disc CD/DVD/Game changer ;)

The really sad thing is I would pay $400 for that thing.

DimHalo 12-17-2003 05:52 PM

Re: The official N5 thread: speculate!!
 
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Originally Posted by BigJustinW
ShadowFox... you have some great ideas, too bad I can't see Hardware like that csting less than $400... All you are missing is the remote control that can turn the system on like a VCR, and the 12 disc CD/DVD/Game changer ;)

I think 12 disc would be too much... 5 would be good though

BigJustinW 12-17-2003 06:58 PM

Re: The official N5 thread: speculate!!
 
Thatmariolover... if it had above average games on it I would spend $500 on it ;). But the main stream wouldn't buy into it

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Originally Posted by jeepnut's slave
I think 12 disc would be too much... 5 would be good though

Depends on what type of changer you are imagining... I'm thinking more like a Car CD changer, the big block you can stick in. The way I see it, the more the better... Once you buy a ame, stick it in there, and it stays in there til it's the worst thing in there, or until you want to take it over some else's house ;)

it could prevent scratching too it you put the game in when it's brand new and never take it out enough for you to trop it or somthing.


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