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Null 09-01-2004 05:46 PM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
yea. or you can goto some teams like Phoenix, and just switch em to the Winnipeg Jets Jerseys, not sure if that was in other hockey games. dont remember looking.


some of party games are funny when you get a few guys playin. some are a bit annoying like the obstical course ones. i like the shooting and passing ones tho.

Make a name online and i'll play ya sometime Joeiss.

Typhoid 09-01-2004 06:19 PM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
yea. or you can goto some teams like Phoenix, and just switch em to the Winnipeg Jets Jerseys, not sure if that was in other hockey games. dont remember looking.


Its always been like that for EA, however the team name and logo dont change, just the jersy.

I dont know if the team name changes to the jets if you change the jersey in ESPN, that would be cool.

And if its not a bother, what are the unlockable classic teams?


Im still contemplating picking it up...the mall is a whole 15 minutes away...

Joeiss 09-01-2004 09:45 PM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
There are too many unlockable classic teams to count, lol.

Typhoid 09-11-2004 05:36 PM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
Here is some things on EA's game. And im liking what Im reading.


9 More days!!!!


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A handy feature added this year is the ability to take control of an up-ice player when in control of the puck. With a simple button press, you can switch control to the pass-receiving player, get him in position, and then have the puck controller make the pass. This allows for much more-accurate setups for both attacking passes and one-timers.
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The addition of a wraparound move is another authentic touch, and while we weren't able to notch a wraparound goal in our limited time with the game, it's nice to have such an integral hockey play as part of your offensive arsenal. Assigning the slap shot and the wrister to separate controls, which represent additional features in this year's game, provides another layer of control when it comes to burying the biscuit.
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NHL 2005's new gameplay tweaks aren't just on the scoring side of the puck, however. Playing as a defenseman, you can now call for support during a breakout situation, effectively creating double-team opportunities on the fly, a useful technique when you've got a speedy Martin St. Louis bearing down on your goalie. The defensive artificial intelligence has been tweaked for the better this year as well. We saw one instance where the defensive AI broke up a pass by lifting up the opposing teammate's stick instead of going the harsher route by laying him out (and possibly drawing a penalty in the process).
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Body size has an effect on the checking animations. A smaller forward checking a defenseman nearly twice his size might result in the checking player falling on his tail or merely bouncing off his opponent. Finally, the faces and body types of players and coaches are more accurate this time around, meaning the Flyers' rotund coach Ken Hitchcock no longer has the same lean physique as the Thrashers' headman Bob Hartley.
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Tune in to any NHL broadcast and you'll hear tons of talk about team chemistry--especially chemistry within specific scoring and defensive lines. NHL 2005 has taken this idea into account this year with a very cool chemistry rating that's assigned to each line you put out on the ice. A high line-chemistry rating means an added bonus for each player in the line, while a line with no chemistry could result in a ratings penalty. The rating is determined by more than just the ratings of the individual players that comprise the lines but also by the skill set and style of play (such as playmaker, scorer, or grinder). Running out three superstar scorers on the same line, while tempting in a dream team sort of way, will likely result in a low chemistry rating and subsequent penalties for all players involved. For best results, choose complementary players to find that ideal mix of talent and player type to create scoring opportunities on the ice.

Link Here

Typhoid 09-25-2004 12:02 AM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
AHHHHH!!!


Why did I wastem that $42 on ESPN? Why oh why.

EA NHL 2005 is f-ing gorgeous, not to mention good off the gameplay.

(And Null, the wrap around like...never works. Ive constantly tried it, and havent scored yet.)

I will admit, yes, the game is fast paced, but this can be quelled by turning down the "gamespeed"

The Dynasty is....its just....well....its hard to explain. Im still in awe of its awesomeness.

You get to select your type of GM. Be it profit-hound, gameplay veteren, Talent man. But there are like, 15 variations of things.

Plus in the Dynasty, you get to set what type of practice you want. Which is awesome.

Not to mention, if you win the conference or Stanley cup, the first home game next season they raise the banner.

The faces show emotion when they get hit or score.

Not to mention you have the 3 international European leagues, which you may like to play in the absense of the NHL this year.

Plus you can do the WCH, because this is the first game to have all the countries involved.

There are different referee types as well. Pre-game they tell you if he likes to call penalties, let it ride, or mixed. There are other things, i just cant remember.

And while its not chalked full of mini-games, it does have the "Free-4-all". Which ( I havent played it yet) i think is 4 people, all trying to score on one net with a goalie in it.

Im not comparing the graphics to ESPN, but these ones are god-fing-gorgeous. The jerseys look ultra real. The creases in them, the folds....aaaaahhhh...

The cut scenes ae awesome, i love them. They make it feel like its an actual game in a sense. I dont just want to play a game, i want to play a game that resembles a TV broadcast of a game.

And after the game, it shows close-up highlights of a handfull of things that happened in the game.

The fights are the same as the other for the mostpart, there is something different, considering in NHL 2004 i never lost a fight, to now, where in NHL 2005 i have never won a fight. Its frusterating.

But being a man who has both games, i feel myself proper to give my 2 cents on both games.

But i extremely reccomend buying EA NHL 2005.

Null 09-25-2004 12:41 AM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
played it. same arcade as usual. :( was having some hopes (not much tho) for it cuz i wouldnt mind having a nice one for PC.

scored on the first 3 out of 5 wraparounds. way way too easy.
not liking much at all, dissapointing even when i had no high hopes for it.

Good for arcade fans and graphic freaks who like to play with it zoomed in as much as possible.. Reviews speak for themselves, yet to find one decent review source that doesnt totally agree with what i've been saying.

Quote from Gamespot, sums up exactly how i feel after playing it...

"any NHL fan hoping for improvement over last year's offering is going to be pretty disappointed."

Typhoid 09-25-2004 01:38 AM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
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Originally Posted by Null
played it. same arcade as usual. :( was having some hopes (not much tho) for it cuz i wouldnt mind having a nice one for PC.

scored on the first 3 out of 5 wraparounds. way way too easy.
not liking much at all, dissapointing even when i had no high hopes for it.

Good for arcade fans and graphic freaks who like to play with it zoomed in as much as possible.. Reviews speak for themselves, yet to find one decent review source that doesnt totally agree with what i've been saying.

Quote from Gamespot, sums up exactly how i feel after playing it...

"any NHL fan hoping for improvement over last year's offering is going to be pretty disappointed."



You just have it out for EA dont you?

And the whole wraparound thing. Seriously, i dont know what your doing to score on them, but I cant. I can only get like, 5 attampts per game. And i have only ever scored on one fo them. So whatever your doing to score on them, tell me.

And you cant just notice the graphics from a zoomed in view. I can easily notice it from the regular "Ice" or "Broadcast" view.

And Im not an arcade fane, but I love the game, because its better. Cutscenes. jerseys, International teams, WCH, about 20 or so countries.

No stupid commentary, and no stupid puns are made in this game, unlike in ESPN.

I think Im either returning ESPN this weekend, or burning it. Mt brothers roomate Carl doesnt even want it, and he'll take a bag of crap for free.

Joeiss 09-25-2004 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid
You just have it out for EA dont you?

You have it out for Sega dont you?


Like really, both of you were fair and tried out both games. your rippin up sega, and null is rippin up ea. who cares.

Typhoid 09-25-2004 01:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeiss
You have it out for Sega dont you?


Like really, both of you were fair and tried out both games. your rippin up sega, and null is rippin up ea. who cares.



Im not rippin up Sega. Its a good game, but its no EA.


Other than comparing ESPN to a bag of free crap, where have i said anything bad about it?

And i didnt just try both games, I own both games, theres a difference. I spent my money on a game i wont ever play again.

The Sega game would be better IMO if the graphics were a little better. To most people, who actually play games and watch the in game cutscenes, graphics matter. But if you just simulate every game, then Sega is your bag. But if your buying a game to play, go with EA.

Null 09-25-2004 11:29 AM

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Actually man, I WANT to like EA more, EA has been my bud for over 10 years of hockey. i really really hate leaving em. but im forced to, to get a decent hockey game

and im not tryin to convince him of anything anymore. i know what he's lookin for, quick goals, unrealistic play and great graphics. he has the right game, i knew that before he bought espn.

i like to actually play a hockey game. Neither game is the best hockey game ever, they both have quite a few annoying flaws. but its pretty easy to see ESPN is the better HOCKEY game, not the better LOOKING game.
its easy to see that after playing it, and its easy to see after all the reviews for both games that my thoughts are defently not alone.

the reason i dont notice graphics much is because i play so zoomed out to actually see the ice. i care about making plays and thinking stuff while playing. not about cut sceens which is skip or turn off anyway.

Typhoid 09-27-2004 12:20 AM

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WTF!!


I went into "Free Agnets" on EA, now i expected them to have created themselves (the people who made it) Which is fine by me, because i can just move them onto an international team (MoDo or something) and not worry about them. But i was shocked to find 3 of the people in the FA, I shall say who they are, and I shall say what they do, incase you dont know.


Marc Crawoford:
The Cancucks coach and player back in the 80's.
Jim Hughson: Play-by-play commentator, im sure he used to be a player

Now....this last one confuse the pants off of me.

Rick Campenelli:
VJ on Muchmusic. He has neve rplayed in the NHL, nor will he. And i know its the sma eone and not a coincidence, because it has his pic in the prof. This confused me beyond no extent. So if anyone knows why Rick Campenelli is in the game, please tell me.

Null 09-27-2004 09:11 AM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
he has something to do with hockey, because the name sounds familar to me, and i know i never heard of him as a VJ

movre 12-17-2004 05:51 PM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
i have NHL 2005 from Gamecube...AND I DONT KNO HOW TO SIGN MY DRAFT PLAYERS. ive been on every site there is and no one mentions this. I have been into every part of the game to see if their is a place to sign my rookies, but i cant seem to find nething. PLEASE SOMEONE PLEASE RIGHT BACK AND TELL ME WHAT THE HELL I HAVE TO DO...email me at movre@hotmail.com please i beg of you!

The Duggler 12-17-2004 06:43 PM

Re: EA vs ESPN ----> NHL 2005
 
ESPN is so much superior it's not even funny anymore.

Typhoid 12-17-2004 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitram
ESPN is so much superior it's not even funny anymore.


You make many valid points as to why you think ESPN is superior in your post.

I have no option but to agree with you, and your points.


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