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ulala06 09-07-2004 06:21 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid
I have a question about Catholisism.


Does it not say in the bible that to talk to god for him to forgive you, you need no middle man? So where the hell did the confession booth thing come from? Why do you need to tell someone else to tell god to ask for forgiveness?

So to sum it all up....Why is there a middle man, when it states you need none for god to forgive you?



exxxxaaaactly...

BlueFire 09-07-2004 07:14 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid
I have a question about Catholisism.


Does it not say in the bible that to talk to god for him to forgive you, you need no middle man? So where the hell did the confession booth thing come from? Why do you need to tell someone else to tell god to ask for forgiveness?

So to sum it all up....Why is there a middle man, when it states you need none for god to forgive you?

When I had to study about Catholicism a while back, there was one important rule that you learn:
Don't take the Bible literally.

Typhoid 09-07-2004 07:17 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BLueFire
When I had to study about Catholicism a while back, there was one important rule that you learn:
Don't take the Bible literally.


If your not to take it literally, who is to say what is right and what is wrong in it?

What is the point of following the Bible, and reading the Bible, if you dont follow what it says?

You cant edit religion to fit your society's needs.

Now women are viewed as equal, but in the Bible they sure arnt. So i guess that isnt literal as well right?

Like I said, you cant edit or change the religion because the times are changing.

oblivionblader 09-07-2004 07:19 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
i guess i'm a christian but theres so much i wonder about in that, i have to go to church, my parents make me o i think i have no religion, i'm not all for it but i'm not against it, i believe that people can have different oppinions on religion, politics, etc.

Crono 09-07-2004 07:37 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid
If your not to take it literally, who is to say what is right and what is wrong in it?

What is the point of following the Bible, and reading the Bible, if you dont follow what it says?

You cant edit religion to fit your society's needs.

Now women are viewed as equal, but in the Bible they sure arnt. So i guess that isnt literal as well right?

Like I said, you cant edit or change the religion because the times are changing.

Well you do not understand modern Catholic faith. I don't think even Protestants take the Bible literally.

I've been to Catholic schools all my life. In high school religion classes we were told to not take it word for word, but still believe that Jesus was the messiah and that he opened the gates of heaven. It is fact that not everything in the Bible was written down at the time, in fact, the Bible was not written until well after Jesus' death. So it's obvious that words and events will be altered throughout time. That's what I was taught anyway.

However, the core of the Catholic beliefs have existed since the 11th century and are still believed today. Go to a Catholic church and see for yourself. Catholic churches still follow the word of the Pope, who is considered the holiest of men on Earth, and the one closest to God.

And sure, obviously women are equal now, but that's not changing the Catholic religion at all. I believe religions should grow with society. If women have earned the right to vote and be as equal as men in society, then the church should follow suit. However, obviously other religions, such as Islam, do not do this, mostly due to the fact that most Muslim countries are poor so women wouldnt have any rights anyway, even if they werent Islam.

Typhoid 09-07-2004 07:44 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Let me ask you this. ( Not directed at one person, its a general question)



Since Jesus' birth, how many other emaculate conceptions have there been?


Whats the chance of an emaculate conception ever happening?

0%.

You know why.

Because you cannot have a god damn emaculate conception.

You need sperm. Its called Science. And dont "Scinece doesnt explain everything" me. Because it does.

And dont "What about the missing link" me either. Because bones decay, its a fact of carbon compounds.

And what about Dinosaurs, if they never existed ( as said in some religions) why are their bones here?
Keriann told me God put them there for us to study.
But why would God want us to study something that never freakin' existed!?!?

Crono 09-07-2004 07:52 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid
Let me ask you this. ( Not directed at one person, its a general question)



Since Jesus' birth, how many other emaculate conceptions have there been?


Whats the chance of an emaculate conception ever happening?

0%.

You know why.

Because you cannot have a god damn emaculate conception.

You need sperm. Its called Science. And dont "Scinece doesnt explain everything" me. Because it does.

And dont "What about the missing link" me either. Because bones decay, its a fact of carbon compounds.

And what about Dinosaurs, if they never existed ( as said in some religions) why are their bones here?
Keriann told me God put them there for us to study.
But why would God want us to study something that never freakin' existed!?!?

This is what I think happened:

Joseph was the real birth father. There was indeed a man named Jesus. He did many great things for people at the time... bUT... his stories were blown out of proportion. I do not believe he healed anyone by simply touching them, however, there were other ways to help these people. Keep in mind the writers of the Bible lived centuries ago, obviously they did not know what exactly happened. Everything was just word of mouth, and people back then were pretty dumb.

As for Jesus being the son of a God, that's where I start to question Christianity in general.

And as for dinosaurs, I do not deny the fact that they existed. I mean, if we've got the remains... then it's pretty damned real.

Jason1 09-07-2004 08:03 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Im Roman Catholic, but Im not exactly an active member...im lucky if I get to church once a month.

jeepnut 09-07-2004 11:50 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Roman Catholic by birth and by choice.

I would like to spend some time discussing the Catholic faith, but I'm not feeling up to it right now. As with most religions, there is much missunderstanding among those who do not practice it. Maybe we need a thread devoted to dispelling these missunderstandings?

The Duggler 09-08-2004 12:23 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Canyarion
I was born that way, but I studied it myself and know it's the truth.

Wow....

mickydaniels 09-08-2004 09:03 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid
Let me ask you this. ( Not directed at one person, its a general question)



Since Jesus' birth, how many other emaculate conceptions have there been?


Whats the chance of an emaculate conception ever happening?

0%.

You know why.

Yes, I do know why. Let's look it up in a dictionary.
mir·a·cle
n.
An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God: “Miracles are spontaneous, they cannot be summoned, but come of themselves” (Katherine Anne Porter).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid
Because you cannot have a god damn emaculate conception.

You need sperm. Its called Science. And dont "Scinece doesnt explain everything" me. Because it does.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid
And dont "What about the missing link" me either. Because bones decay, its a fact of carbon compounds.

And what about Dinosaurs, if they never existed ( as said in some religions) why are their bones here?
Keriann told me God put them there for us to study.
But why would God want us to study something that never freakin' existed!?!?

If their bones are here, then they obviously existed.

Typhoid 09-08-2004 10:06 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Riddle me this then.




Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid
Let me ask you this. ( Not directed at one person, its a general question)

Since Jesus' birth, how many other emaculate conceptions have there been?


mickydaniels 09-08-2004 10:26 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
How many immaculate conceptions?
ZERO.

And your point is?

Professor S 09-08-2004 10:45 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Typhoid, you are seriously out of your depth here. By your statements you do not have a working knowledge of religion and you aren't sounding very intelligent right now. Don't take this as an attack, I'm just trying to help you out here so you can maybe do some damage control.

Here's where your flaw lies...

You're arguing science against faith. Faith defies science, so there is no point in arguing between the two. You're arguing about sperm, which is a pretty mundane subject when faith tells you that the ethereal being GOD came down and conceived a child on Earth with a mortal woman. Translation: No sperm is needed, as he's FRIGGIN' GOD. If you can create the universe in seven days, you can knock up a chick without banging her.

Therefore, to a person of faith, your arguements are downright silly and have little to do with anything.

Canyarion 09-08-2004 01:54 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Bah I hate it when religions downgrade the bible. :mad:


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