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no doubt they sell well. and they used to be good. the lastest versions of mario gold and mario kart were huge dissapointments. but i have hopes that its only a little slip and they'll get back up with thoes for the next versions.

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Don't get me wrong, I am in no way saying they are bad games. I'm just making a point here, that they re-use Mario and his gang too much, and especially in gimmick games like Tennis, and Party... and now basketball.

They are all good games, but my point is... the repetition...

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Yeah, Crash Bandicoot had his own racing game on Playstation back when his name meant something. (OMG MARIO KILLAR!)

Do I think that the Mario thing is a little ridiculous? Yes. NBA Street crossed the line. They don't belong there AT ALL. It was a horrible idea.

Now, Mario Kart is a franchise, and has been for ages, and I wouldn't want it any other way. Games like Mario Kart and Super Smash Brothers NEED the franchise characters to give them personality. Mario Kart wouldn't be fun with realistic drivers.

As far as creating new characters in a Nintendo game, it wouldn't have the marketing power. Top Spin Tennis is (apparently) a better tennis game than Mario Tennis. I haven't played it, so I wouldn't know, but I've heard great things. But what I do know is I've never heard anyone talk about Top Spin Tennis. My buddy owns XBox, and loves XBox Live. He also loves playing Mario Tennis with me and our buddies. But he still hasn't bought Top Spin, and won't. Strange draw that a franchise has on people.

I don't see what's wrong with franchise characters if it is their own game. I'd rather see Mario Party with Mario than with a bunch of other characters because I know the personalities of all the Nintendo characters, and the characters they introduce in other games (WarioWare for example) don't seem to have the same life. I wish WarioWare featured Mario and the gang rather than the weird cartoony guys in that game.

Talking about Microsoft not using "Master Chief Kart" is ridiculous, because he wouldn't work in anything but a shooter because of his character. The beauty of the Mushroom Kingdom is it is such a universal group of characters that can work in everything.

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Your misunderstanding me Highlander... First of all, Super Smash Brothers is far from a Mario franchise game, considering it consists of Nintendo characters of all sorts and not just the Mushroom kingdom.

I have favorite games on all 3 consoles, and I like Mario Tennis and Super Smash Brothers. But my point, yet again, is that they are rehashing the Mario characters in games they need not be in.... and the biggest example in NBA street...

And I guess you haven't heard of the new GCN game coming out Mario Dance Revolution?

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As I stated, I think NBA Street 3 featuring Mario characters is stupid. The Mario Dance Dance is stupid.

But Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Super Smash Bros, Mario Golf... I like the reusing of franchise characters. I guess that's just me, though.

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They should just whore out Tingle and his brothers. Imagine Dance Dance Revolution with the spandex-clade quadruplets.

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I don't see the major deal.

It's Mario, he's a fat Italian plumber........cut him some slack :cool:

I don't see him complaining about being a cameo in every game possible. Maybe we should all take a step back and think about how Mario is handling all this...

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hehe yeah right.


As for the current debate, I guess it falls back to what each fans like. Nintendo fans like the gameplay, how a game plays and how much fun they have with it. The very essence of videogames I guess.

Mario Tennis is the best tennis game out there period. I could care less if it there was 2 or 100 characters, it would still be the best tennis game.

I guess others like having lots of extra stuff around the game like different characters etc... to make up for the lack of quality gameplay mecanics.

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well, sometime when you get the able to read everything instead of just one part you'll start to get it. until then, oh well. ;)

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I highly doubt a majority of people would agree that a fictional tennis game with plumbers and monkeys along with super power shots beats a real tennis game featuring real tennis players you know and love.

If you are an avid fan of tennis, then it wouldn't make sense to like mario playing tennis rather than Hewitt or Federer.

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Real sport games are boring, fantasy sport games are fun and wacky! :crazy:

If I want to see a real athlete hit a real ball with a real raquet, I'll either turn on the TV or play with them in real life.

Mario Sports > Standard Video Game Sports

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They're better as a whacky fun party multiplayer game, but certainly are not better then standard sports game to play the actual sport.

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Mario Party and Tennis games are party pleasers and crowd pleasers.

But to those who want to play sports games and want to get a feel for the real sport rather then a sooped up cartoon version of it, will play Smash Court Tennis.

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never heard of smach court. lol. i loved Sega Tennis 2k2, and top spin was fun.

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just an example.... avid NFL fans will play Madden over Mario Grid Iron... if there ever was one, but I do see one in the near future.

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For extreme athletes like me, real life sports is the only thing that can can quench our thirst. But at the end of day, when my crew and I want to have a good time, we kick it with Mario.

It's either that way or the highway.

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Your ability to form a complete sentence is a plus. :love:

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lol. you're a goofy guy GM, but thats why we likes ya. :)

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I'm pretty sure that Mario tennis is the most popular tennis game out there. So there goes the majority.

I understand your point, of having a simulation feel to it, having the real players. I like that aspect too, but the gameplay far outweights that.

I'm a real tennis fan, I even play alot myself, and I'm telling you that the feeling that you get out of a mario tennis game (standard game, no power shots, I hate them) Is far more closer to the real thing than any other game I tried.

Can't wait for Mario Baseball.

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try Smash Court Tennis for PS2... it's uncanny how much control you have over your shots.

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Top Spin on Xbox is also pretty accurate.

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some of the other tennis games are better at just tennis. they get it more accurate, however i think your probably right about mario tennis being the most popular tennis games. Tennis games in general dont sell well. Mario tennis appeal is towards a party game. that is why it sells better. But you'll notice, as i did when looking for a tennis game to buy, that there is a lack of tennis games being made. its simply because they dont sell well.

now while games like mario baseball, or mario hockey would prolly be a blast to play. i can guarentee they wont outsell the sega sports or ea sports line in thoes games.

but the odd games, like bowling, im pretty sure a Mario Bowling would far outsell a pro bowling game. lol. or mario kart would definently outsell a pro go kart game.

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lol, I love it.

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This whole argument comes down to opinion. The thing with Tennis is that there are not many hardcore tennis fans out there, and even though I love to play tennis, and play it a LOT, I don't follow the actual sport. I hate watching it on TV... it's not much fun. I'd rather play Mario Tennis than the "Realistic" tennis games.

However, when I play a hockey game, I sure want to play a realistic game, so it really switches depending on the context.

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You play tennis in real life or digital?

Edit: great timing: http://www.cube-europe.com/news.php?nid=7606

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Well at least it's a cross platform release.... can't pin this one on Sony :D

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I like playing tennis in real life. I play it a lot in the summer, although my town rains a lot so it's hard to get a chance to.

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Im decent at tennis
Im quite good at tennis considering I hardly ever play
Im very good at tennis considering I hardly ever play and I'm built like a Mack truck

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I'm pretty good at everything, considering everything. :)

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pretty good at everything means very good at nothing...that must suck, dude ;)

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I'm built like a Mini.