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GameMaster 05-17-2005 02:07 AM

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OMG, it is so shiny! It's like a new car! This machine is unstoppable!

bobcat 05-17-2005 05:47 AM

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It's a round PS2!!!!!

But looks nice.

Round Ps2!!!

Null 05-17-2005 10:02 AM

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So what are the differences besides wireless between the PS2 and PS3 controllers? Couldnt someone just plug in thier PS2 controller and use that instead? (of course maybe its really comfortable and people wouldnt want to, gotta say it doesnt look as bad as when i first saw it now)

Canyarion 05-17-2005 11:36 AM

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I think most of the graphics has to do with programming. It's not really the looks, but more what happens on screen. I think......

Null 05-17-2005 02:21 PM

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So it appears the real REVOLUTION of next gen is indeed SONY's controller.

As someone in another forum said, When you get mad in a game and throw it, it will come back to you. :)


all joking aside, its ALMOST starting to grow on me now, kinda like the Gamecube controller did.

MuGen 05-17-2005 02:34 PM

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Yeah, I thought it was garbage when I first saw it. But I stopped looking at it at face value and started to imagine myself holding it.

It seems it would be very comfortable with long prongs..... Everything is a nice size they just elongated the prongs...

Does anyone see similarities...?




The long prongs have proven to work well with holding the controller with stability.... Whose complaining now...

Null 05-17-2005 02:37 PM

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well if it does one thing it'll stop people from saying they cant get to the left joystick with thier thumb. longer handle means you could grip it a bit lower which would effectivly move the left joy stick higher up.

As with any controller tho, looks aside, you never know untill you actually hold one.

MuGen 05-17-2005 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
well if it does one thing it'll stop people from saying they cant get to the left joystick with thier thumb. longer handle means you could grip it a bit lower which would effectivly move the left joy stick higher up.

As with any controller tho, looks aside, you never know untill you actually hold one.

Listen... the long prongs on the N64 proved to be beneficial for holding the controller with comfort and stability.

Now with the longer prongs it just enables that same aspect. The buttons, analog, shoulders, and D-pad are all in SIMILAR positions to the old PS2 controller.... just longer prongs to provide more grip then slip..

Remember also, their may be a REASON aside from Grip for the long prongs... perhaps a pressure sensitive grip for racing games... Squeeze on the right prong for an action and squeeze on left for another action... Maybe something for Fight Night PS3?

Null 05-17-2005 02:55 PM

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ARG!!! this is driving me nuts, i been looking for a while now, Will someone PLEASE find me a picture of the PS3 with its front panel (that slope down on the left of the cd tray) open and showing all the ports and plugs inside.

i saw the picture last night, it has a couple memory stick slots, and some other plugs, but now for the life of me i cant find where i saw that picture at....

gekko 05-18-2005 11:42 PM

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My long biased rants will come next week, when I get the net hooked up in my room.

But let me just say, every time I've complained about Sony's controller design, I take it back. Aside from the fact that it's incredibly dated, at least it was confortable. This is well... humorous at best. Sony should've just added USB support for PC controllers and not included one :D

The console is umm... nice... but... ugly. Glad to see someone using Bluetooth (1.1 or 2?), and it's nice to see 1080p and HDMI output. Bravo. If only they could make a game that I cared about, and could sell this thing for a reasonable price. Sure it's going to sell for under $500. $499.99+tax!

Still haven't seen a picture of a game, just heard some announced titles that put me to sleep. They'll sell, but they're just not for me. But please tell me that they gave real-time in-game shots, and not the stupid BS renders that they wowed us with to prove how superior it was to DC.

3 consoles shown, none have "wowed" me.

bobcat 05-18-2005 11:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gekko
My long biased rants will come next week, when I get the net hooked up in my room.

But let me just say, every time I've complained about Sony's controller design, I take it back. Aside from the fact that it's incredibly dated, at least it was confortable. This is well... humorous at best. Sony should've just added USB support for PC controllers and not included one :D

The console is umm... nice... but... ugly. Glad to see someone using Bluetooth (1.1 or 2?), and it's nice to see 1080p and HDMI output. Bravo. If only they could make a game that I cared about, and could sell this thing for a reasonable price. Sure it's going to sell for under $500. $499.99+tax!

Still haven't seen a picture of a game, just heard some announced titles that put me to sleep. They'll sell, but they're just not for me. But please tell me that they gave real-time in-game shots, and not the stupid BS renders that they wowed us with to prove how superior it was to DC.

3 consoles shown, none have "wowed" me.

Have you seen the war video thingo on PS3?

That wowed me. Is that really in game graphics??? Even though it looks like it is from a gameplayers perspective,who's to say somebody didn't computer generate some or all of it? I'm confused :confused:

Also where are the gamelists? I haven't seen ANY games yet that have stood out and grabbed me by the nutz.

gekko 05-19-2005 12:09 AM

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No. Got internet being installed on Tuesday. For now, I'm on a relatively slow, and very expensive public computer. So no big downloads until Tuesday. Then I have to sort through this mess of 80 posts per console.

Perfect Stu 05-19-2005 01:07 AM

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The only games known for PS3 release are:

Killzone 2
I-8
Gran Turismo 5
Motor Storm
Heavenly Sword
Metal Gear Solid 4
Grand Theft Auto next
Final Fantasy next
Rockstar western (Red Dead Revolver 2?)
Fight Night round 3
Formula 1
Devil May Cry 4
Mobile Suit Gundam
Tekken
Ni-Oh
EyeDentify
Warhawk
Killing Day

but it's not set to release for another 10-11 months, so you cant expect a very large game list. how large was the XBox 360's game list 5-6 months ago?

MuGen 05-19-2005 01:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gekko
My long biased rants will come next week, when I get the net hooked up in my room.

But let me just say, every time I've complained about Sony's controller design, I take it back. Aside from the fact that it's incredibly dated, at least it was confortable. This is well... humorous at best. Sony should've just added USB support for PC controllers and not included one :D

The console is umm... nice... but... ugly. Glad to see someone using Bluetooth (1.1 or 2?), and it's nice to see 1080p and HDMI output. Bravo. If only they could make a game that I cared about, and could sell this thing for a reasonable price. Sure it's going to sell for under $500. $499.99+tax!

Still haven't seen a picture of a game, just heard some announced titles that put me to sleep. They'll sell, but they're just not for me. But please tell me that they gave real-time in-game shots, and not the stupid BS renders that they wowed us with to prove how superior it was to DC.

3 consoles shown, none have "wowed" me.

I hope you've seen the game play footage being run on unfinished PS3 hardware.... those graphics will wow you.... even if the game isn't your type.

Bluetooth 2.0 EDR (Sony and Ericsson invented Bluetooth... what do you expect?)

Now about the price... let's check out some marketing patterns

Newspapers speculate an up to $700 price tag for the Playstation 2.
Sony launches PS2 in Japan for $379.00
Sony launches PS2 in US for $299.00
Newspapers speculate a $465 price tag for the Playstation 3.
Sony will probably launch in it Japan for $399
And end up launching in the U.S. at $350.00

Sony will keep their price at a competitive price point to keep people interested instead of making them go to Xbox 360.

Everyone knows PS3 looks way more powerful, so $350 would be a justified price point, for the extra horsepower in it....

But if it matches the X1.5 at $299.... EVEN BETTER... I'm not stopping them from doing it....

bobcat 05-19-2005 07:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo
I hope you've seen the game play footage being run on unfinished PS3 hardware.... those graphics will wow you.... even if the game isn't your type.

If you're talking about Killzone then I hate to be the one to spoil your fun.............

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/614/614924p1.html

I think it's not realtime, it just looks too ............. polished to be real time. I mean the way everything happens, it just doesn't seem believeable. However I could be wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PS2IGN
We're inclined to mistrust Killzone 2's gameplay legitimacy even further because of the way the video plays out. No shooter in existence features characters that do exactly the right thing at exactly the right time all the time. It seems as if the entire Killzone 2 showing was like a wish that did not waver, not even once. Then there's the way the control seems suspiciously fast to be done on analog sticks. The circumstantial evidence is just too much to ignore, you know?

All that being said, I cannot in good faith tout Killzone 2 as the best looking game ever because I really don't think it's a real game yet. But it sure is one hell of a CG sequence that, if in anyway happens to be representative of the final product, shows us what next-generation shooting should be like.


gekko 05-19-2005 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony
Bluetooth 2.0 EDR (Sony and Ericsson invented Bluetooth... what do you expect?)

Who's complaining? Bluetooth is one of the greatest technologies out there. 2.0 is even better, saves on battery life since it transfers more information per second, therefore its not transmitting as often.

But also on the price point, Blu-Ray is expensive, and the price isn't going to go down since its now pretty much became a proprietary format. Where Microsoft and Nintendo are banking on cheap lasers and cheap discs. Allows for a cheaper console, as well as lower game production costs, which is crucial for those smaller developers Sony has been known for having. But it has its benefits.

I just don't see Sony selling this at a reasonable pricepoint, and after seeing PSP go for $250 in America, I'm not feeling confident that they will get it lower than $399.

Canyarion 05-19-2005 04:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gekko
after seeing PSP go for $250 in America,

Value Pack, VALUE PACK before they kill you!

Crash 05-19-2005 07:28 PM

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:rofl:


Teuthida 05-19-2005 08:02 PM

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:D


sig

MuGen 05-19-2005 08:26 PM

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uhmm.... wow....... the PS3 isn't that big.... it's as big as the 50000 series PS2....

bobcat 05-19-2005 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash
:rofl:


lol

Bond 05-19-2005 09:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony
uhmm.... wow....... the PS3 isn't that big.... it's as big as the 50000 series PS2....

You actually changed your username to the name of a corporation? Wow, that's extreme... maybe I was wrong about this whole supporting capitalism thing.

Null 05-19-2005 11:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sony
uhmm.... wow....... the PS3 isn't that big.... it's as big as the 50000 series PS2....



lol. well the highly awaited Megaton announcment has left some people a bit grumpy.

Teuthida 05-19-2005 11:55 PM

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That truly scares me...changing your name to Sony...not even PlayStation but Sony. When I get enough dlbns gonna change my name to General Motors...no...Coca-Cola...no...Square-Enix...no...Anheuser-Busch... which billion-dollar company should I sell my soul to?

DarrenMcLeod 05-19-2005 11:58 PM

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That photoshop is extremely good though... the expression on his face and his arm locations... makes it look like he's actually lifting a huge load.

GameMaster 05-20-2005 01:41 AM

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I knew there was something wrong with that picture, laugh out loud.

Now, let's poke some fun at Xbox and Nintendo's new consoles!

MuGen 05-20-2005 01:46 AM

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Changing my name to Sony is a joke that obviously none of your feeble minds can comprehend. I am only understood by those... who can take a joke....

EDIT: I don't know what's funnier... a simple name change or having Reggie dancing like an ass in ur signature..... I dunno.....

Teuthida 05-20-2005 01:47 AM

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I forgot that no one ever gets your "jokes."

GameMaster 05-20-2005 01:48 AM

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I admire your loyalty and dedication to spreading the good name that is Sony.

I'd pull a stunt like that too but I've put way too much time into promoting the GM character, there's no turning back.

That's what secret accounts are for...right Danchastu!

MuGen 05-20-2005 01:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GameMaster
I admire your loyalty and dedication to spreading the good name that is Sony.

I'd pull a stunt like that too but I've put way too much time into promoting the GM character, there's no turning back.

That's what secret accounts are for...right Danchastu!

Aye... I respect you GM... You understand my will and intentions...You will go down in my books as "The One... but not named Neo"

:p

Crash 05-20-2005 12:14 PM

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dancing reggie rox!!!!!!!! darren is the man

Teuthida 05-20-2005 07:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GameMaster
I admire your loyalty and dedication to spreading the good name that is Sony.

I'd pull a stunt like that too but I've put way too much time into promoting the GM character, there's no turning back.

That's what secret accounts are for...right Danchastu!

Secret accounts? Me? Nah, I wouldn't know anything about secret accounts... :sneaky:



As for Kyuzo. I could see if it was a joke chaning your name to "Nintendo" or "Microsoft" or "Phony" or something you're not diehard about. It wouldn't be a joke if I changed my name to "Nintendo" because I like Nintendo games. Now I changed it to the name of some Final Fantasy character and then acted all dumb and whatnot... Bill Gates isn't gonna wear an Xbox shirt and be like "Hey. Hey guys. Look how funny I am. I'm wearing a shirt with a game console my company makes. Oh I slay myself." If he wore a Mac shirt...that would be something else.

Bond 05-20-2005 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danchastu
Secret accounts? Me? Nah, I wouldn't know anything about secret accounts... :sneaky:

Don't worry, I know about them.

Back to the original subject... I really enjoyed the Sony press conference overall, but I thought the lighting was rather lackluster compared to the Microsoft press conference.

MuGen 05-20-2005 07:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danchastu
As for Kyuzo. I could see if it was a joke chaning your name to "Nintendo" or "Microsoft" or "Phony" or something you're not diehard about. It wouldn't be a joke if I changed my name to "Nintendo" because I like Nintendo games. Now I changed it to the name of some Final Fantasy character and then acted all dumb and whatnot... Bill Gates isn't gonna wear an Xbox shirt and be like "Hey. Hey guys. Look how funny I am. I'm wearing a shirt with a game console my company makes. Oh I slay myself." If he wore a Mac shirt...that would be something else.

I wish you would stop analyzing so much, and take it at face value.... It's not like I'm parading around my neighborhood with picket signs and banners saying "All Hail Sony."

I mean... you just wrote a whole paragraph... because I claimed changing my name a joke... you realize that?

Teuthida 05-20-2005 07:39 PM

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Yes. My fingers sure did get tired writing that entire paragraph. Ok my ten little soldiers, you guys deserve a break. If Thursdayton taught you anything it's that Nintendo fans over analyze anything and everything. You have been warned...and educated. Get started on that sign.

Teuthida 05-20-2005 09:19 PM

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Going back to the controller. It could look far worse. Like this toilet seat trying to be a controller:


GameMaster 05-20-2005 09:24 PM

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Laught out loud, it looks funny but I'd like to try it anyways. Who knows, it might work nice? :)

Joeiss 05-21-2005 12:24 AM

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I've used a controller similar to that before, it was very comfortable.

MuGen 05-21-2005 01:04 PM

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You know you can use that controller while sitting.


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