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See that's what I initially thought when he brought up the downloading old games thing... But I coulda sworn there was a time when he said it in a more general way, implying that it goes beyond just Nintendo's games...

If it's just Nintendo's games that will be available, as good as they are, even that's a dissapointment...

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even tho i cand find a link, im POSITIVE i read there isnt ever going to be a spaceworld again, its cancelled for good. Even mroe proven by the fact there hasnt been one since 2000.

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And that design isn't even final so in actuality we saw nothing.

I didn't expect to see the console. Just a tech video. Got the opposite. Makes no sense.

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I can't believe they would make us wait another year to see the controller.

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That press conference was disappointing. I was trying to be unbiased this E3 and give each console a good piece of my time..... Now the only console for me seems to be the PS3 and MAYBE the X360...

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Maybe they're gonna improve the power of the Rev before showing it again? Sounded like they weren't even half done making it when talking about their IBM and the like. Wishful thinking?

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Well I don't blame you guys for the prospect, but Nintendo dug their own grave to the media when they speculated 3 times the power then the GCN... compared to what Sony and Micro said....

When it comes to how many times more powerful it is... I really could careless, I just know that I saw a wonderful display of power by the PS3. And Nintendo coming out with a ass number like 3 times more powerful.......... It's not bad, but when saying that to the media and press... you kinda dig your own grave.

Many forums are already shafting the Revolution because of that statement.

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Why not? we had to wait till the last minute to see gamecube and its controller too.

I think at the first E3 sony and MS showed off thier stuff, nintendo ran a couple tech demos. had to wait till the year after to see the GC.

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They're smart. By next year PS3 is gonna be old news. Nintendo has given themselves another year of fan speculation and hype.

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"Once you see the Revolution graphics you will say 'wow'." That is if we ever decide to show them to you...

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Yeah, Nintendo is just stripteasing us, showing us a little bit of something for a short period of time before showing something else...

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Once you see the 1-3 times more power then GCN in the Revolution by next year... you will see people lining up to pre-order PS3....

EDIT: I love how amongst all the disappointments, you guys are trying to justify for Nintendo why they didn't show anything or any specs.

If anyone knows why Nintendo is doing what they are doing... it's Nintendo themselves.

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They got another year to work on their wowness.

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sounds oddly familar, oh yes. that stratagy has worked well for them in the past. lol


honestly, not a smart move at all. thier fans wanna see hype, they want to KNOW what they're wating for. some of nintendos userbase is either going to go out and buy an 360, or decide on PS3, BEFORE evolution is even shown. then when its shown its like, oh well, already reserved or bought something else.

they didnt have to show everything, but they needed to give people a reason to wait for em.

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Good job Null.... you successfully posted something that they won't really care about... they are busy making up excuses for Nintendo as to why they didn't show anything.

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I got hype coming out every orifice for Twilight Princess. I couldn't care less for next gen right now. Even now those PS3 videos are a distant memory...gah, can't stop watching the trailer.

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*sigh* Disappointing. Was really hoping to be WOW'ed.



Well, off to report about GBA Micro details...

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Hey do any of you guys know where I can get a download of all of the conferences?

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at least it doesn't come in purple...

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That thing looks like a ****ing external CD drive.

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Wow..
How depressing. LOL

Well.. at least it's not that bad. I expected it from Nintendo. :P

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I wonder how much "patience" Nintendo fans have now...

I still remember when couple of people here said "You need to have patience with Nintendo..."

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I have opted to have myself cryogenically frozen until Revolution info becomes readily available.

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The reason Nintendo didn't want to reveal much is because they're still not finished constructing Project: Revolution. Very smart move in my book. While Microsoft and Sony already have their systems finalized and complete, Nintendo is taking another year to continue improving and optimizing what will be the ultimate gaming system.

Next year's E3 prediction: Project: Revolution being the ultimate gaming system and the next Gameboy having power and graphics equal to PS3.

Oh Sony, if only you hadn't rushed. :shakehead Looks like you'll learn your lesson the Dreamcast way...

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Uh... yeeeah, trust me I have tons...

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Nintendo was stupid for saying 2-3 times more powerful than GameCube. They always understate things, and I bet you won't be able to tell the difference between Rev and Xbox 360.

Kyuzo - I don't understand you coming in and bashing Nintendo in every way you can. Xbox 360 wasn't revealed last year, and it will be released later this year, and yet you don't bash them for it. By the time PS3 is released, Revolution will have already been unveiled, and so they will be on an even playing field. Revealing this early does nothing for Sony other than create hype that is too early for preorders anyways.

People aren't going to start lining up to pre-order the PS3 because Sony overspeculates their system's power while Nintendo underdescribes theirs. The difference in graphics will not be that great.

Am I disapointed there wasn't much shown? Hell yeah, but it was expected, and showing anything this year was only Sony trying to convince gamers not to buy an XBox 360.

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At this point, the difference in graphics is not going to be phenominal. I'm more amused by the fact you'll be able to download old games from NES, SNES, N64 and the GC (assuming its free).

btw, the other systems look uglier.

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While I agree Sony's graphical capabilities seem a bit overrated, they maybe not as overrated as some people are thinking... I can definately see how Killzone 2 isn't gonna happen in the actual game... maybe the GRAPHICS will look that good, however half of what makes that video so amazing is all the activity on the screen at once... And not just the activity in general, all the unique, situation-specific activity going on... It's basically too scripted to be 100% believable...

As for Revolution, I think the graphics will be good enough... Maybe every bit as good as PS3... But we can't be sure yet... As much as that will be the focus for a lot of people's initial reaction, I'm more interested in them finally letting the dern cat out of the bag about the controller... I mean it's supposed to be so amazing... But with all this talk of uber-backwards-compatibility, it can't be TOO different because it would make playing those existing games way too awkward.... Although they could easily release a special CLASSIXXX controller for a bit of extra cash...

As for getting a head start, getting a head start on hype always helps...

If you get people talking early, they get their mind set on buying the PS3... And when they've had their mind set on buying the PS3 for so long, it's less likely that, no matter how amazing the revolution's true revealing might be, people will suddenly pull a 360 (GET IT!? HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and buy a Revolution...

But again, nobody can be sure until it's released and we hear the public's reaction :p

And one last note, on the super compatilbility download NES/SNES/N64 games...

First off, if it's ONLY Nintendo's games, as good as they are, that's lame (I think I've said that before maybe)... Second, assuming it's all games (or at least all the major ones), I'm hoping they don't do something like say... "Well if you wanna buy Chrono Trigger used, you're gonna have to shell out around 50 bucks... So we can sell a downloadable version for saaaaay 29.99!"... But instead go for an approach of a set fee... Maybe NES games a buck, SNES games 1 or 2... N64 games maybe as much as 5... With prices varying in certain situations...

But you get the idea... If Nintendo tries to rip a hole in people's pockets with these emulated versions of old games, that'll be beyond a ripoff, and a crying shame... They're not making ANY money on those games currently anyways...

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Kyuzo, one of your most annoying habits is pointing out the obvious 100 times over.......

Yes we know the conference was disappointing, and I normally expect this from Nintendo anyway so my expectations were not high in the first place. I still enjoy their games and I still can't wait to see what they have to offer, but by now I have learnt that Nintendo don't compete very well with the other consoles. They do things their own way, which sometimes really hurts them, but I enjoy their games and can't wait to get more info on the revolution.

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THURSDAY

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I don't think the PS3's capabilites are super overhyped. I just remember Sony telling numbers about 70 million polygons a second and Toy Story rendered in real time for PS2, and that never happened. We know they like to BS a little with their ideas, that's all. I don't think Revolution's graphics will be as good as PS3, buy Kyuzo is making it sound like they are ging to be the difference between N64 and PS2. They won't. It'll be the difference of PS2 and XBox, if that. The further we go into these games the less of a difference you can notice.

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The video at nintendo.com hinted something big is going down on Thursday. That is according to the people who saw it before they took it off.

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from ign:

Aries said that Nintendo's conference would be a letdown but that they had a BIG surprise, and kept referring to the 19th.


-matt says this aries is fake, but just after that
-all the aries predictions have come true...
-then again aries' IP is from bank of america, a bank as in "the game" movie, which aries told us to watch.
-Matt posted that infamous "hot or not" pic in the rev board when prime3 is going to be a GC game.
-Aries predicted nintendo's conference was going to be weak on purpouse.
-there are this strange videos at nintedo.com
-there is a secret booth called "club revolution".
-Pics from ign supposedly apeared on a no-name site.
-There is a NINTENDO NOW advertisement at the new nintendo.com and a weird background.
-IGN has been pretty quiet after nintendo's conference.
-Everybody is waitint the 19th...



The fact that this video was at nintendo.com with nintendo execs makes it credible. SOMETHING BIG is going to happen. I'd say either Mario128 or the Revolution controller.

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what is everyone talking about? I love bees kinda thing with the revolution? I see that thing on nintendo's site, what the hell is nintendo now?

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Yeah, these PS3 demos did bring up suspicions based on PS2's unveiling and tech-demos, and how it never fully lived up to the hype... But a girl can still dream!

I mean we all know that the numbers show that PS3 is increeeedibly powerful... The problem is, Xbox360 has a fairly lackluster showing (of games which I've heard were actually running on things that represent only about half of the 360s full power), then PS3 blows everyone's socks off with these amazing demos and claims, and people scream "That can't be real!"...

So basically right now it's a matter of having faith and adopting a wait and see approach...

Even if those tech demos are to PS3 as PS2's were to... PS2... I still think this generation's graphical leap will be much bigger than some people were expecting (and recently doubting based on Xbox 360s 'Xbox 1.5' showing)...

Jeez, my posts are getting longer... Reminds me of back in the day... PS2 vs. Dolphin! Xbox roflmao it's just a glorified PC!!!

It's good to be getting back into all that excitement again (^-^

Edit: Now Neo's got me damn excited... I hope this isn't a let down...

I'm hoping for a more in-depth revealing of the Revolution... It's controller perhaps... I thought that the way Iwata (or whoever it was) brought up the controller, but then said "Which we will be showing you... sometime later" or something like that seemed a tad suspicious if you ask me... He chuckled as people sorta sighed in dissapointment...

E3 tends to be very top-heavy... Starts off with a bang, goes out with very few details... I think it'd be quite rad if Nintendo got people's hopes down, then bam left the show with a bang...

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And does anyone know if Advanced Wars:Gamecube version got turned into Battalion whatever?

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Uhmmm... Stop overreacting... if you know yourself the Nintendo conference was disappointing, then it shouldn't tick you off SO MUCH when others say it.

And If I'm bashing any system it's the Xbox 360. The only thing I was bashing was Nintendo's conference, and not their Revolution or anything else. I actually have high hopes for Nintendo's revolution. But if you haven't noticed already... I'm a Sony fanboy... so get used to it. You've all gotten used to Crash' antics and GameMasters' antics...... but you guys don't seem to get used to mine, and you have to point out my vices all the time.

Either ignore me or get used to me.... I'm a fanboy and I'm pretty sure everyone else is here too, but I have a very conspicious way of showing it.

Like I said, I'm excited about the Revolution from what I've seen, but I was disappointed in their showing.... who the hell cares if I say that more than once? The conference was disappointing, the conference was disappointing.... If it bothers you so much ignore it...

I dunno what the big deal here is...

Do I complain about you guys constantly bashing the PS3 controller? No...

EDIT: The thing about the demos and footage of the games that was shown at the Conference is that they were being run on the PS3 itself. It maybe wasn't the actual game, but it shows the PS3 is capable of rendering those kind of graphics. Right now, I believe what they showed is what we're gonna get.... The only thing I expect to change is the design abit and the controller abit.

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I'm used to you.. I think Kyuzo is a good balance to GM and Me. Leave Kyuzo to his PSGrill and everyone will be happy :D

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Yeah it did.


Thursday

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Thanks Man... I'll leave you alone with whatever you do... considering half the time your with MicroShaft and half the time your with Nintendo...

I'll just say your against Sony... LOL

Anyways... I'm glad we can all be fanboys alike and still get along