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Hmmmmmmmm

I can see alot of peope have alot of questions in here, hmmmmm I'm a christian ( kingdom person to be exact), I won't claim to know everything but if any of you have any questions you want answered about God and stuff, I'll my best to answer em......... I would have just posted the answers to some of your questions but I gotta go and come back.
I'll probadly check back on this thread later tonight.

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That's the problem with separation of church and state. We are a country built on religious ideals by religious people and now we are trying to weed the religion out without disrupting the rest. In my personal opinion, it's not possible.

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Agreed. In New York, there's a law that is in effect that says you can't buy alcohol before noon on a Sunday. A Catholic imposed law, it's one of the most hurtful laws to our local economies. Just think, it cuts liquor sales by about two percent.

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It's predicted in the bible that governments will banish all religion. As soon as they touch the one and only true religion, God will stop them --> Armageddon --> Paradise. :)

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Long time no see, whats up guys. I love religious discussions. They are always so full of life. It always seems, no matter what religion somebody is (and yes, atheist is a religion... I have my reasons for these belief) they have a strong opinion on it. And people are so easy offended if their religion is questioned.

My religion is LDS (mormon).

So to answer your question Crash, yep... there is at least one guy on this board who is Mormon. ME :D

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Welcome back CamFu! A pleasant surprise for most people

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Ahhh... the key word there. Most. Thanks Jonbo.

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Good to see you back as well, I'm surprised your bot hasn't said hello yet.

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Can we expect to see you regularly from now on?

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yes, the reason I made this thread was to find out the various religions and how serious you guys take it. pretty serious I guess, the thread is growing.

I asked about the mormon church because I'm concidering joining it. please dont make this an anti-mormon thread (moderators, help out here).... I'm pleasantly surprised to find out that Cam (and I guess Kami and kids) are mormon. heh.

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Camfu's MORMON? And in the MILITARY? Thats one hard-ass Mormon ;)

Welcome back! :D

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Ok, maybe "believe" wasn't the word I should have used. The only thing that I would believe would have to be the absolute truth, and because we will never have that (anyways not in a close future) then I will have to say that I don't believe anything. Now when I look to science I would have to say that it make a lot of sense but there is always a BUT. But you, you think and say that religion must be it, it's like you have the absolute truth, and that is not right at all.


Feelings are fact? What about feelings changed by certain drugs? Are they still fact? Or feelings changed by something else like lies or anything else? See? Feelings are as misleading as anything else.


Try me. Tell me about those proofs. We'll see.

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Yep, they are a fact. Look back on your past feelings, how you felt at the time is how you felt at the time, period. Nobody can tell you that dog **** tastes good, if you tasted it and hated it. Your personal feelings are your own. Does that mean they can't change? Nope. You can eat dog **** tomorrow and love it, that doesn't mean you didn't hate it before. Feelings can be misleading, but it is still how you felt or feel...

I'll believe that it is the absolute truth until proven otherwise. You would think in this advanced society at least one person could have stepped up with "proof" by now that God doesn't exist... but guess what? Hasn't happend yet.

You still have faith in science, faith in them to find an answer that they won't find. You chose to trust one source, I chose to trust another. You will never have absolute truth if you don't believe in anything. It would take a time machine.

My proofs are my proofs... you may not see them the same way as me. You'd be like "luck" "coincedence" or maybe simply say I'm insane. There is no need for me to go into any detail on it with you.

I'm off to class now. :p

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You would think in this advanced society that someone would have come forth with "Proof" that god exists, but this also hasn't happened.

Continued lack of proof either way has lead me to believe that God probably doesn't exist.

If God does exist, he probably doesn't care about us anyway. Seriously, do you think some being of omnipotent power cares about anything that goes on in your life?

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this is how today's children are growing up? LOL

to each his own i guess

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Well I would like to think if I was an omnipotent being I wouldn't be spending my life playing around with peoples lives.

If there is a god, if he created us, and he did everything, I'm sure he has moved on by now.

Also I'm sure God is genderless, and I just say he because I don't feel like typing God everytime.

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You are right, it hasn't happend because any proof given is dismissed as being invalid or coincedence. But certain people don't see it that way... "proof" is out there, its your choice to accept it or not.

And it leads me to believe he does exist. Growing up I didn't have a choice but to follow, and the more I learn about science the stronger my faith gets...

Yep.

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God has it's reasons for not interfering with us.
He lets Satan try and proof that mankind is better off without God.

He'll act real soon though, making this world a paradise again. With people on it that did what he asked of us. So if you want to look beyond your short life, consider studying the bible...

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I'm not here to argue about it...

Gah...

We're two extremes with two different beliefs.

None of us will win or lose.

So this argument has no point.

Furthermore, for future reference, there is no "proof" out there no matter how hard you look.

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I know there is no god.

Proof came to me last night when i heard on the radio they found a severely burned body in Creston.

What kind of god would kill a man who did nothing?

What kind of god would kill a man who loved everyone around him?

What kind of god would kill a man who just wanted love from his mother?

What kind of god would kill a man so slowly and painfully?

Dont tell me there is a god, for i no longer belive in anything.

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First of all: my condolences. :(

Ok then. But ask yourself, did GOD kill that man??? ("no, cause he doesn't exist":rolleyes: )

Hells Angels killed him. Not God. God has its reasons for not interfering with mankind... yet.

Just because bad stuff happens, doesn't mean there's no god.
w00ps, I said it. :( Sorry...

God can give you comfort. He can and will ressurect the dead. Patience...

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God didn't kill that man.

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God gave man free agency. That means man can do whatever he wants, so when bad things happen, it's man's fault not God's.

It was just time for that man to return to his Father in Heaven, that is all.

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Yes, and now he is in a place that is so much better than here.

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Bah, I hate that belief. As if God DOES take lives...

One day God will ressurect the dead, like Jesus did.

Oh well, none of this makes sense if you don't believe in God...

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True. None of it will make sense.


But People are stupid. A person is smart, but collectively people are stupid. One person( religios person) by themselves can think that we are a coincidence of thermal happenings on this planet. But get them together with other religious people and they cave.

Most people just need to add meaning to their small small insignificant lives. They need a higher power. Much like the incas ( or something) worshipped the sun.

Not to semi-quote MIB, but A hundreds and hundreds of years ago people knew Earth was the centre of the universe.
Hundreds of years ago, people knew the earth was flat.
And religious people know there is a god.

To paraphrase George Carlin:

" I dont believe in God, you know why? Because i cant see him. I worship the sun. because I can see it. It gives it that much more credability when i can see it. But i do not pray to the sun, no no no. I pray to Joe Pesci. He seems like the kinda guy who can get things done."


Carlin is my hero.:)

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Everything depends on how you look at it. Yes, I agree that none of us will win or lose. For the main reason that you can't put your emotion into a post (Smiley's don't count), that is why none of us will win or lose. But I don't agree that this argument has no point. Because you don't think it has a point, doesn't mean there isn't one there.

One big point that I see when religious discussions are made is to see how open minded people are. If somebody doesn't believe in god, I want to see if they are able to open their mind to understand why we believe in God. And if you do believe in God, I want to see if that person can actually see a world without a God.

Ontop of that, you also learn a lot about a person from their beliefs. Believe in God or don't. No matter which one, the desicions that are made in your life are done by beliefs that you hold.

I'm going to agree with what Crash, Joeiss, and Canyarion has said, but I'm going to expand on what Crash wrote.

Typhoid, it's good that you are questioning things that are happening around the world, even the things we don't want to see. But I think you are going about it in the wrong way, and please don't take offense to this. How much have you looked into your questions? Have you tried to answer them yourself, or with somebody else? That is what free will is all about. Even though you don't believe in God, I believe he let you make that choice. He even gave you the choice to question him.

One last thing, don't ask questions that you might not like the answers to. Remember, just keep an open mind... if you chose to get the answers to the questions that you asked.

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I was just waiting for this comment to come up. It has to every time. This comment could be twisted around and pointed toward people that don't believe in a higher power. But I'm not going to do that here, what I am going to say is that people that believe understand that just because something else is out there doesn't make our life any easier. Actually it makes it harder. For everything we do in this life will be judged, and how we are judged will determine how we are going to spend eternity. If you haven't been a good person, that can actually be a pretty scary thought.


Everything, except whats underlined, is actually past science facts. It wasn't God telling us these things, it was the educated men on the Earth at the time. And who where they to question the geniuses of their time. People have always believed in some higher power.

*edit* alright folks, I'm off to play of BF:V. You are welcome to come and Frag me... if you have xfire and look for shaggymaster. Laters.

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Yes. Yes they are. Thank you for pointing that out... over and over again.

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The punishment for sin is death. If that man was without sin, he wouldn't have died (Which is impossible because thanks to our grandparents and satan we are born in sin.). Nobody is that innocent except Jesus himself, and he died for our sins, not his own. As for god's intentions, he gave us Jesus... that alone tells if he cares or not.

Now, a better question to ask is why do people who never get the chance to know him die. That's a question I can't answer. But I guess if he cares enough to try and save us sinful people, he cares enough to save the people who don't have access to him on the earth. How? *shrug*

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I know that you were trying to twist around my words and turn it into an insult on myself, but alas, it did not work.

You see, it would have worked, but it was in the wrong tense.

People means more than one, person means one.

So i dont know how I can represent the stupidity for lots of people.

I can only represent my own. And I think I do that damn well.

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:confused:

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What about Satan? I'm interested in why he really rebelled against God. What is the whole story? Thats what I currently research. If anyone has some information please share.

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I want to know, While the Christians and Catholics have a Hell, why does Judaism not have one?

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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

"The Punishment for Sin is death."

That's so stupid I don't even want to comment about it.

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there are a couple versions: Satan was becoming very mighty up in heaven and wanted to get some of the glory that God was getting. He wanted to be powerful and take over God's spot to some degree, get worshipers and such, God didn't like that so he had Michael kick ass and take names.

or

Satan was competing with Christ as to who would be the savior of man. Satan said "just let them all be forced to follow God and they'll all be saved". Jesus said "no, we should give them free will and let them decide what they wanna do with their lives" Jesus got the gig and satan was cast out along with 1/3 of the heaven's angels with him.

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The hell isn't even a biblic term. It probably originated from the Greeks, with their 'hades'. The Catholic church used that to scare people.
It's also based on the illustration of Lazarus and the rich man, the 1st one in heaven, the other one in hell.

The bible teaches that when you die, you're dead. You're nowhere, you don't exist. Until you are ressurected to live on paradise on earth.

Some people are given a life in heaven, they will rule the earth together with Jesus.
But the're no hell where people burn for eternity. How could a loving God do that???

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Well you did comment, so eh. That is the most basic concept in the bible... heck, it was the first lesson in the old testiment.

If you believe in the stories of the bible, God hasn't exactly been nice to people who deny him. He did send us Jesus which is an act of love, but that doesn't mean god himself isn't capible of making a place like hell.

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He DESTROYED people. They are gone now. With their death, they payed for their sins. No need to burn in hell!