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thatmariolover 12-16-2004 12:16 AM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by Typhoid
:cool:

Scratch resistant does not mean scratch proof.

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster
Why can't we have some threads about what aspects of the PSP are great? These constant "PSP has problems" debates are getting extremely annoying.

Make them if you want. I already know how great the PSP is and a lot of the excellent features. But the "constant" debates (two?) are pointing out some of the things that are a problem with the PSP.

GameMaster posted a great dead pixel thread about the DS here.

And it was met with a pretty vehement "it shouldn't happen" from Null. And he's right, it shouldn't. But at least I can take it back and get it fixed. As opposed to the battery issue (it's an issue to me - and if it isn't to you, great - but it's an issue to some of us) that can't be fixed at all.

I was excited about the PSP and still am. Hopefully Sony can work out the problems. But if they don't, I'm not going to get one.

Perfect Stu 12-16-2004 01:16 AM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
The majority of the Nintendo fans in this thread had NO intention of buying a PSP no matter how flawless the system was, and are playing devil's advocate because they are threatened that PSP might actually threaten Nintendo's dominance in the handheld gaming market.

Yes, I made a generalization.

And yes, I'm right, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

DarkMaster 12-16-2004 11:54 AM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by thatmariolover
Make them if you want. I already know how great the PSP is and a lot of the excellent features. But the "constant" debates (two?) are pointing out some of the things that are a problem with the PSP.

GameMaster posted a great dead pixel thread about the DS here.

And it was met with a pretty vehement "it shouldn't happen" from Null. And he's right, it shouldn't. But at least I can take it back and get it fixed. As opposed to the battery issue (it's an issue to me - and if it isn't to you, great - but it's an issue to some of us) that can't be fixed at all.

I was excited about the PSP and still am. Hopefully Sony can work out the problems. But if they don't, I'm not going to get one.

Interesting how you quoted that part of my post, and not the part where I actually made my point.

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Originally Posted by DarkMaster
Yeah, it has a few problems. The DS has a few problems too. So does the PS2, the GCN, the Xbox, and the GBA:SP, along with any other console or handheld ever made. And to top it all off, no one has even seen or used an actual real life PSP. Seriously, these threads are fanboy fodder, nothing more.


Jonbo298 12-16-2004 01:57 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
The majority of the Nintendo fans in this thread had NO intention of buying a PSP no matter how flawless the system was, and are playing devil's advocate because they are threatened that PSP might actually threaten Nintendo's dominance in the handheld gaming market.

Yes, I made a generalization.

And yes, I'm right, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

That generalization doesn't apply to me. PSP will take off. After a price drop or 2, I'll probably get one.

Threatened? I don't feel threatened at all. The handheld market needed competition that Nintendo would have to do something.

thatmariolover 12-16-2004 02:19 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by DarkMaster
Interesting how you quoted that part of my post, and not the part where I actually made my point.

[sarcasm]I'm sorry I didn't reiterate your point for you.[/sarcasm]

I didn't quote the other half of your post because I wasn't replying to it. I agreed with it and it needed no statement from me. It would have gotten +rep if not for the other half of the post - which I quoted for that very reason.

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Originally Posted by Jonbo298
That generalization doesn't apply to me. PSP will take off. After a price drop or 2, I'll probably get one.

Threatened? I don't feel threatened at all. The handheld market needed competition that Nintendo would have to do something.

Exactly. The haldheld market has been extremely stagnant for a long time now. It's awesome that there's some competition so that we'll have two great systems instead of one that was set at a laughable price.

DarkMaster 12-16-2004 02:45 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by thatmariolover
[sarcasm]I'm sorry I didn't reiterate your point for you.[/sarcasm]

I didn't quote the other half of your post because I wasn't replying to it. I agreed with it and it needed no statement from me. It would have gotten +rep if not for the other half of the post - which I quoted for that very reason.



Exactly. The haldheld market has been extremely stagnant for a long time now. It's awesome that there's some competition so that we'll have two great systems instead of one that was set at a laughable price.

If you agreed with the majority of my words, you should've said so. The way I saw it was that you picked a rather loose and incoherent line from my post to try to diminish the point I was making. And hence, the reiteration of the point in the previous post.

The Duggler 12-16-2004 03:31 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
The majority of the Nintendo fans in this thread had NO intention of buying a PSP no matter how flawless the system was, and are playing devil's advocate because they are threatened that PSP might actually threaten Nintendo's dominance in the handheld gaming market.

Yes, I made a generalization.

And yes, I'm right, whether you'd like to admit it or not.


The majority of the Sony fans in this thread had NO intention of buying a DS no matter how flawless the system was.

Yes, I made a generalization.

And yes, I'm right, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

Null 12-16-2004 03:44 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by Nitram
The majority of the Sony fans in this thread had NO intention of buying a DS no matter how flawless the system was.

Yes, I made a generalization.

And yes, I'm right, whether you'd like to admit it or not.


Doesnt QUITE work out in this particular thread that way. of been better to mention other threads for that point.

MuGen 12-16-2004 04:35 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
I heard that Duracell is working with Sony to release a Premiere Li-ion battery for the PSP to boost life. That would be cool...

The only thing that really matters about battery life is maybe watching a movie and having it cut short if your on a airplane.

Hmmm I'm still picking it up on launch just to see how it is... that and I'm a huge sony fan... so I'll support them no matter what... lol.

I might even pick up a DS as well just so I don't have to deal with rants and bantering about which handheld is better.

I'm going to pick up the Gamecube, Xbox and have my lil pstwo and then leave the bickering up to you guys... lol

Perfect Stu 12-16-2004 05:00 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by Nitram
The majority of the Sony fans in this thread had NO intention of buying a DS no matter how flawless the system was.

Yes, I made a generalization.

And yes, I'm right, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

you're damn right.

but I'm not in here picking apart every one of the DS's flaws, I couldnt care less

I also have no intention of buying a PSP

and *GAG* at Jonbo and thatmariolover. every scratch the PSP is prone to, every less second its battery life is, you guys smile a little wider. you speak only of its negatives, it's glaringly obvious

I know others are thinking the same thing but wont say it in as many words

MuGen 12-16-2004 05:18 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
and *GAG* at Jonbo and thatmariolover. every scratch the PSP is prone to, every less second its battery life is, you guys smile a little wider. you speak only of its negatives, it's glaringly obvious

I know others are thinking the same thing but wont say it in as many words

I choose to refrain from stating what you said to avoid a catatrophic downpoor of bantering. Good that some of us notice it. I don't want to glorify the PSP or the DS that much and I don't want to point out the flaws of either one, either. I simply have better ways of wasting my time.... like playing Initial D.... thats time AND money.

But in any case... it seems like you are right.
They probably jumped at the chance to post about these problems with the PSP.

My friend in cali bought a DS and the touch screen failed... Got it exchanged and the touch screen failed to respond to his touch..... New problem arising that DS needs to confront?

thatmariolover 12-16-2004 08:36 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
and *GAG* at Jonbo and thatmariolover. every scratch the PSP is prone to, every less second its battery life is, you guys smile a little wider. you speak only of its negatives, it's glaringly obvious

I know others are thinking the same thing but wont say it in as many words

If you had bothered to read my earlier posts before the negatives were pointed out about the PSP, I was fully intending to buy it. Even a week ago I was still planning on getting one. Don't go generalizing on me just because I'm being a smart shopper. I didn't make one arguement about the screen except that it would get scratched (resistant or not) if you didn't put a protective screen cover on it (you could even cut one of the fit it yourself PDA screen covers). Honestly, grow up. I've got all three of the consoles and was planning on getting both of the handhelds. If I know a product isn't going to satisfy me, I'm not going to get it. When they come out and my friend gets one, I might reevaluate the situation. But until then, get off of my back.

Perfect Stu 12-16-2004 10:04 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
I come into the handheld forum from an outside view. I have no intention of buying any handheld gaming device until possibly late 2005 at the earliest.

What I sense from "nintendo fans" (yeah, I generalized again...some dont apply, I wont name names) is this "oh god, they like ____ about the PSP...wowie, impressive :rolleyes:" attitude and a sense of relief/pride when reporting PSP negatives.

thatmariolover, you do look at things at a more objective way than most people here...I shouldn't have included you in the same sentence as Jonbo. we have our biases, which is natural, but your goggles definately dont seem as tinted. and I respect the fact that you stood up for yourself directly at me. I generalized, and that's what I wanted to hear.

I wont name names (well, I mentioned Jonbo...I wont name anymore names) of the others that give this sickening sense of childish Nintendo PR that I thought died down over the past couple years around here.

GameMaster 12-16-2004 10:10 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
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Originally Posted by Kyuzo
My friend in cali bought a DS and the touch screen failed... Got it exchanged and the touch screen failed to respond to his touch..... New problem arising that DS needs to confront?

It sounds like your friend is the problem ;)

On a more serious note, did this friend ever try running the calibration software on the initial boot screen that appears when you turn on the DS?

The Duggler 12-16-2004 10:47 PM

Re: PSP = Big Problems
 
Stu you can't talk about nintendo fans like that when you are as bad as them with sony.


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