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Bond...i wasnt comparing Americas GDP to other countries for military spending...it was philisophical..And actually when i think of Japan i think of DDR and crazy technology stuff..And no Canada couldnt even beat Japan..what are we going to do...we have no guns, the best we have is plastic forks, why do ou think our beer is so strong, so if anyone invades us and drinks, they'll be too pi**ed to remember what they are doing. Canada has virtually no military, we put our money into free healthcare.

Get this, our Navy has about 3-4 Submarines ( i think...plz no reeming) and West Edmonton mall...has 2 submarines...man that is one well protected mall..

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We have around 24,000 troops. Wow.. 3-4 subs.. who cares? We have a decent amount of carriers and battleships. I admit though, our equipment isn't great but if you even look slightly at Japan's Army... we'd waste them.

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But they would invent some kind of Mega-car-dinosaur that shoots bullets and plays MP3's...and it would probably run on Hydrogen, or the thoughts of little children..

(And it was kinda my point on who cares for the 3-4 sub thing) :p

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And the validity of this arguement wanes...

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Wow, glad to see some people come and get my back while I was at work. Maybe the ignorant left-wing catch phrase sprewers don't run this board after all.

Most of the points have been well said, so I'll just comment on one point...

Typhoid, your comments about nukes are pretty much without any form of historical perspective and are based on the same principles as you argument against war. "War is Bad" so therefore "Nukes are Bad". You also commented on how you're glad that Canada doesn't have any nukes.

There is a difference between "evil" and a "necessary evil". I'll explain what I mean since you seem to have a hard time absorbing a lot of the information we've shared on this thread:

No one is glad that there are thousands of Nukes in the world, but you also have to remember that they weren't just made because the US felt like have a world ending arsenal on hand. At the end of WW2 Russia was an "ally" but a very dubious one at that. Stalin killed more peopel than Hitler ever did and ran his country with an iron fist, but for the purposes of the war he was necessary to do business with. After the war ended relations immediately went in the crapper because Russia decided to keep much of the land that they had driven over on the way to Berlin.

Russia then developed Nukes and showed itself to be expansionist both militarily and politically. All eyes were on Alaska for a long time (thats right next to Canada, right?) This was the start of the Cold War, which in the early years was a VERY scary time in the world. My parents remember driving into Philly during the Cuban Missile Crisis because they wanted to die immediately if we were nuked by Russia, and not suffer the fallout. Thousands of shelters were built and there were instructional films shown IN SCHOOLS that told you what to do in the case of a nuclear attack.

THATS how close we came during Kennedy's tenure and thats what caused nuclear proliferation.

It wasn't until the Reagan administration came up with the brilliant idea of bankrupting the USSR to finally end the Cold War that Americans truly felt at ease. But unfortunately we were left with the stockpiles remaining after the Cold War ended from the MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) philosophy of avoiding a shooting war. And by the way, Nukes are being torn apart by the US, and no new ones are being made. But if you were to listen to liars and propoganda artists like Michael Moore you would never know that.

But as a Canadian you should be GLAD that the US had all of those nuclear weapons at that time. We had them so wouldn't have to. The US being your neighbor kept your country safe for 40 some years from USSR attack, and YES you would have been the first to go down because you would have been in the way of them getting at US. In fact, Canada would have been the battlefield of one of the most brutal wars in history if America decided to not stockpile weapons like Russia did.

Just keep that in mind.

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Wow...thanks for that Strangler...and once again you come through with a history lesson nobody asked you to provide..I knew all of that, im not a complete idiot.

Im the same as you, i'll argue my points until the other guy gives up, but its a problem, cuz both of us have seperate views, and are totally stubborn.

So i'll be the bigger man and back down.

(And about the Canada being the battlefield thing....how are you 100% cetain that Canada would be it? Who did you ask? The Russians? The Pentagon? didnt think so.)

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That's exactly the reason why I support the U.S. in times like these.

If you were the USSR, would you rather:
a) Sail across the Pacific, with many American naval bases in your path
b) Sail across the Atlantic, with NATO naval bases along the way
c) Or... use Canada as a landing point. You sail across the Arctic Ocean...by FAR less sea distance.

Any country would be out of it's mind to choose either a or b, which is why radar stations were built in Arctic Canada.
What do you have to say about that?

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I still say he was trying to point it out as a fact, when its just "option 'c'"....You cant point things out as a fact if they never have happened, unless you have 100% proof. And Strangler, im not talking proof as in one of your multi-paragraph responses to why America is great, i mean real proof.

You also say Canada would be the first to go down..where is your proof, and dont give me more heresy, i want proof. Give me links to websites where you reasearched your argument. Truly you must have some, or else you would just be lying, right? thats what i thought.

Saying something as a fact when your, or nobody else is 100% certain is blatently ignorant. And you guys (nhf) cant give it up because all of you are stubborn, so you have to get the last word in on "why your right" and "Why others views are wrong". You cant stand it that someone else in the world has different views than you do.

And stateing things in a 5-6 paragraph response wont change my mind, of course i have different views, of course im not the best supporter of what the U.S. does, because ive been raised not to be. I cant change that, nor can you. I doubt if you grew up in France, that you would be supporting America as you are right now. Its all personal opinion.

So my friends hold your heads up high, you have succeeded in winning an argument over the internet with your bullsh*t prowess. You should be proud of yourselfs that you dont give others respect for their views. Pat yourselves on the back mon ami, this is a special day for us all.

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Some of your "views" and opinions are not based out of any fact, (ie. the world power thing), instead, you say what you think is right, without doing any research to support your opinions.

I'd like to keep in mind that Strangler has always had facts, and what he says is true (from what I've seen), because, anyone who's studied 20th century history would know that. But the anti-US people never have accountable facts... just thoughts spewed out of the head.

But anyway, it is time to end this pointless argument.

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I agree, after this im done...and Crono..i admitted i dont use facts, but i havent seen any of stranglers facts. Sure you can say he has them, but it doesnt work...wait lets see.." Im King of the world.."..strange,....i said it....but its not true...wierd huh..He hasnt posted one link with facts based on what he has been saying. So pretty much hes down at the level with me, where your saying what you think is right.

When HE posts relevent links to sites that prove all of his points, then i'll agree, but i still wont believe in what he is saying.