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Professor S 09-16-2004 04:10 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
So i dont know how I can represent the stupidity for lots of people.

I can only represent my own. And I think I do that damn well.
I stand corrected...

:lol:

GT News 09-16-2004 04:10 PM
RE: Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Strangler
Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
So i dont know how I can represent the stupidity for lots of people.

I can only represent my own. And I think I do that damn well.
I stand corrected...

:lol:
That is interesting:
said stand corrected.
I'm glad you find this amusing.

Typhoid 09-16-2004 04:14 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamFuBot
That is interesting:
said stand corrected.
I'm glad you find this amusing.


That was a beautiful attempt at a Haiku FooFoobot.

CamFu 09-16-2004 04:38 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamFuBot
That is interesting:
said stand corrected.
I'm glad you find this amusing.
Who are you?

GameMaster 09-16-2004 05:00 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamFu
Who are you?
A forum bot created by Neo to fill in during your absence.

CamFu 09-16-2004 05:06 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
A forum bot created by Neo to fill in during your absence.
Scary isn't it?

Typhoid 09-16-2004 05:09 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamFu
Scary isn't it?

He has succeeded you in almost every way possible.

He has more posts.
More rep.
He is well known by everyone but you.
His face is dreamy.


I mean......uh......crap..



*flees*

CamFu 09-16-2004 05:14 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
He has succeeded you in almost every way possible.

He has more posts.
More rep.
He is well known by everyone but you.
His face is dreamy.


I mean......uh......crap..



*flees*
And we will leave it at that. :wtf:

GameMaster 09-16-2004 05:14 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CamFu
Scary isn't it?
Well, maybe at first, but most people are generally tired of him. If you ever feel like going on a -rep rampage, take CamFuBot to school. :shock:

dropCGCF 09-18-2004 01:35 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
I'm reading a book titled God's Defenders: What They Believe and Why They Are Wrong. It's a book about atheism, and it's quite interesting, but I'm an agnostic.

Canyarion 09-19-2004 04:50 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
So who's wrong, the atheists or the theists?

dropCGCF 09-19-2004 06:20 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Haven't finished it. The Atheists are winning 27-3 though.

tkdbabe04 09-22-2004 03:36 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
I totally respect the whole Mormon religion but you know what I don't understand is how you can just change your mind within a month of teachings after you have been with someone for 3 years. I also don't understand how you can become a Mormon when you don't even believe all that they do or believe, you just like the people, and I don't blame you they are amazing people. But do you sacrifice you whole life for something your unsure about, something that you don't even believe yourself?

Blackmane 09-22-2004 03:56 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canyarion
He DESTROYED people. They are gone now. With their death, they payed for their sins. No need to burn in hell!
Face it, the world is sinful. God loves us, but he also punishes us when we are bad. He's like a parent; just because they punish you when your bad doesn't mean they don't love you.

Canyarion 09-22-2004 04:01 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Yes, but no parent would slap his child forever, would he?
Of course, when a child does something wrong, it's punished. But AFTER the child is punished, there's no need to keep inflicting it pain, is there?

Classic Rocker 09-22-2004 04:37 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Psh I believe organized religion is just meant to control people. People who have no desire to be free and think for themselves. Just my opinion.

I mean..would people really be in the religion if there was no reward? Like going to heaven or living on a pardise earth? Satan brought up that issue with God. I'm just wondering what you all think. I think 3/4th of people would back down from there faith without any reward at the end.

GameMaster 09-22-2004 04:45 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
The Bible teaches me to be a kind and compassionate person. Anyone who doesn't read it cannot be kind or compassionate. Simple equation: read the Bible and you'll be a good person and you'll have a utopian afterlife. If you don't read it, you're not a good person and you won't have an enjoyable afterlife.

Canyarion 09-22-2004 05:38 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Well, you can be a good person, but without belief in God, chances are you won't get eternal life...

The bible makes clear that there are 3 important things: belief, knowledge, actions.

Some people 'just' believe, but that's it. Others are 'only' good people, but don't want to believe in God. Others know a lot of the bible, but have lost faith in it (theologists and stuff)...

Typhoid 09-22-2004 06:28 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
Anyone who doesn't read it cannot be kind or compassionate. Simple equation: read the Bible and you'll be a good person and you'll have a utopian afterlife. If you don't read it, you're not a good person and you won't have an enjoyable afterlife.

Thats slightly narrowminded my friend.

So your telling me, if I dont read a book I have no interest in reading, yet i change nothing abouyt myself, suddenly I am labeled as a bad person?

I dont get it. How can reading a book make you a good person, and If you dont read it your not a good person.

Did Jesus read the Bible? No. Is he a good person? Yes.

Reading a book about things makes you no more of a good person than breathing makes you able to fly.

GameMaster 09-22-2004 06:34 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
The Bible is no ordinary book my comrade, it is a book of God. Whether the Bible you read from is from a hotel or from a museum, it is better than all other books of this world. And that is not an opinion, it is pure fact and truth.

Typhoid 09-22-2004 06:44 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
The Bible is no ordinary book my comrade, it is a book of God. Whether the Bible you read from is from a hotel or from a museum, it is better than all other books of this world. And that is not an opinion, it is pure fact and truth.

So your saying anyone who hasnt read the Bible is bad then?

TheGame 09-22-2004 07:12 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
So your saying anyone who hasnt read the Bible is bad then?
That depends on what you mean by bad. The way I see it, man in general is "bad" we all sin. You don't have to read anything, you just have to believe in him... The words of the Bible are the truth. If you want the truth, read, if you don't want the truth... well, that's too bad. I can't convince you of anything, that's not my job. You have some access the bible, you have eyes, and you can read. My tip, read it. If you don't want to, that's your own problem.

Joeiss 09-22-2004 07:15 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Doing something nice is great, but won't get you to heaven. Doing something nice in the name of God is great, and will get you into heaven.

Our actions are meaningless unless we do it for God.

Typhoid 09-22-2004 07:32 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joeiss
Doing something nice is great, but won't get you to heaven. Doing something nice in the name of God is great, and will get you into heaven.

Our actions are meaningless unless we do it for God.

But sometimes some religions in the middle east kill for the name of their god. Yet, they are still wrong and bad.


religion doesnt justify anything. good or bad.

So your telling me, if i give $10 billion to a childrens school i wont go to heaven, because its not in the name of God?

If I save a busload of childrens lives, I wont go to heaven because i didnt do it for God?


Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGame
The way I see it, man in general is "bad" we all sin
What exactly did Mother Theresa do? The woman was a saint. Like, literally. Oh wait...riiight, origional sin. The thing that backs up the "fact" everyone will go to hell and so on and so forth.

I think religion ws made by some king, or ruler of the days of old, like a scare tactic to follow the laws of that particular man. Think about it. Who would oppose his opinion? He would have you beheaded.

King : "Follow my laws or go to hell!!"
Villagers: "Hell? whats hell?"
King: "A place of fire and eternal torment."
Villagers : " Wait, how do you know?"
King: "God told me."
Villagers: "You didnt talk to god."
King: "Guards, behead him!!"

See, its that simple.

I think it was a scare tactic to get people to do what you wanted with grave concequences if they didnt listen.

Can anyone prove the existance of Heaven or Hell? no.
Can anyone prove the existance of God? No.
Yet people are so ready to defend something that has not been proven to exist. Like ghosts. Or vampires. Or zombies.

And everyone just says "Oh, God exists, because it says so in the bible!!"
Well, i read a book once where it says dragons ae real. Are they? No. Does anyone defend to their grave that they are? No, not really.

Because if someone comes at you with a knife shouting : "Ill kill you if you say dragons are real!!" you will say they dont exist, because Dragons show no promise in afterlife.

Yet, if the same man runs up and yells : "Ill kill you if you say God is real!!!!" if you were religious, you would say he is, because you believe in an afterlfe of warmth and love.

I think religion is juist so people can feel meanigful. So they feel like they know something. And the idea that we go to Heaven after we die (assuming you are good) makes it so people dont freak out when they are terminally ill.

And the threat of Hell is supposed to differ you from doing bad things.

But where in the bible does it say something about people who are good AND bad? Where do they go?

Rough examples:

If you save a busload of children, you go to heaven.
If you kill a man, you go to hell.
But what if you save a busload of children while killing a man? Where do you go? What happens?

And another thing, why dont the Jews have hell? Dont you pray to he same god as Christians/Catholics etc.?

TheGame 09-22-2004 07:58 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
What exactly did Mother Theresa do? The woman was a saint. Like, literally. Oh wait...riiight, origional sin. The thing that backs up the "fact" everyone will go to hell and so on and so forth.
The fact that everyone would go to hell? You like taking things overboard eh? Just because we all sin it doesn't mean we can't be forgiven for them. You can be the worst killer of innocent people in the world, and if you ask for forgivness and truly know in your heart that you were wrong and that you will do everything in your power not do it again... you are forgiven. If you lead a nice life but you manage to kill somone on purpose, and you ask for forgivness but aren't sorry for what you did and would turn around and do it again if you have a chance, you aren't forgiven. The key is: You must believe... period. If you believe in God, you will obey him, and feel like crap when you don't.

You can't buy your way into heaven. One action doesn't speak for your entire life. Maybe you should read the bible and answer your own questions. The thought that one who does bad goes to hell period proves that you don't know what you are talking about... I've sinned just as much as the next man.

Bond 09-22-2004 10:13 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
But sometimes some religions in the middle east kill for the name of their god. Yet, they are still wrong and bad.


religion doesnt justify anything. good or bad.

So your telling me, if i give $10 billion to a childrens school i wont go to heaven, because its not in the name of God?

If I save a busload of childrens lives, I wont go to heaven because i didnt do it for God?




What exactly did Mother Theresa do? The woman was a saint. Like, literally. Oh wait...riiight, origional sin. The thing that backs up the "fact" everyone will go to hell and so on and so forth.

I think religion ws made by some king, or ruler of the days of old, like a scare tactic to follow the laws of that particular man. Think about it. Who would oppose his opinion? He would have you beheaded.

King : "Follow my laws or go to hell!!"
Villagers: "Hell? whats hell?"
King: "A place of fire and eternal torment."
Villagers : " Wait, how do you know?"
King: "God told me."
Villagers: "You didnt talk to god."
King: "Guards, behead him!!"

See, its that simple.

I think it was a scare tactic to get people to do what you wanted with grave concequences if they didnt listen.

Can anyone prove the existance of Heaven or Hell? no.
Can anyone prove the existance of God? No.
Yet people are so ready to defend something that has not been proven to exist. Like ghosts. Or vampires. Or zombies.

And everyone just says "Oh, God exists, because it says so in the bible!!"
Well, i read a book once where it says dragons ae real. Are they? No. Does anyone defend to their grave that they are? No, not really.

Because if someone comes at you with a knife shouting : "Ill kill you if you say dragons are real!!" you will say they dont exist, because Dragons show no promise in afterlife.

Yet, if the same man runs up and yells : "Ill kill you if you say God is real!!!!" if you were religious, you would say he is, because you believe in an afterlfe of warmth and love.

I think religion is juist so people can feel meanigful. So they feel like they know something. And the idea that we go to Heaven after we die (assuming you are good) makes it so people dont freak out when they are terminally ill.

And the threat of Hell is supposed to differ you from doing bad things.

But where in the bible does it say something about people who are good AND bad? Where do they go?

Rough examples:

If you save a busload of children, you go to heaven.
If you kill a man, you go to hell.
But what if you save a busload of children while killing a man? Where do you go? What happens?

And another thing, why dont the Jews have hell? Dont you pray to he same god as Christians/Catholics etc.?
Y-o-u d-o n-o-t k-n-o-w w-h-a-t y-o-u a-r-e t-a-l-k-i-n-g a-b-o-u-t.

Typhoid 09-22-2004 10:14 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bond
Y-o-u d-o n-o-t k-n-o-w w-h-a-t y-o-u a-r-e t-a-l-k-i-n-g a-b-o-u-t.


That was quite the convincing response. It has changed my perspective on everything now.


*Reads the Bible*

Crono 09-22-2004 10:23 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
I'll say some things to you Typhoid:

Christianity and Catholicism are the same thing. Cathlocism is just a branch of the Christain faith. Not sure if you knew that or not, just letting you know.

There are a number of things science has not been able to prove. So why do you single out a religion? Science has not proven where the first human came from, it's all a theory. And that's exactly what religion is, IMO... just a theory. Not proven to be true. Not proven to be false.

Typhoid 09-22-2004 11:03 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono
I'll say some things to you Typhoid:

Christianity and Catholicism are the same thing. Cathlocism is just a branch of the Christain faith. Not sure if you knew that or not, just letting you know.

There are a number of things science has not been able to prove. So why do you single out a religion? Science has not proven where the first human came from, it's all a theory. And that's exactly what religion is, IMO... just a theory. Not proven to be true. Not proven to be false.


I know they are the same.

And i never said Science hasnt provent God exists, or Heaven, or Hell. I just said It hasnt been proven. Nobody has been there, nobody has seen God. Nobody has been to hell and back, or to heaven and back.

And like i said, i have nothing against religion, or religious people. I seem o get harped on here so much for anything I say, when in fact I have nothing agaisnt any of the people that view otherwise than me. I could take equal insult about religious people saying God does exist, because im Athiest, and technically, God is against my "religion". And people keep forcing religion on me.

Religion gives meaning to people, and I understand and respect that.


It just makes me mad because i always gett he perverbial gangbang of arguments for saying what I believe. Yet, I harp on none of you.

And Thusly, I am tired of being the perverbial black man in the circle of the KKK, so I am taking a break.

GameMaster 09-23-2004 12:02 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
We're not against you, Sean, we just want you to experience the same glory and peace in your life as we do in ours through the power of God's almighty care and love. All you have to do is put your faith in him.

It's the only way the feelings of sadness, despair, and lonliness you feel will go away. Medicine can't replicate God's love.

The Germanator 09-23-2004 12:16 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
We're not against you, Sean, we just want you to experience the same glory and peace in your life as we do in ours through the power of God's almighty care and love. All you have to do is put your faith in him.

It's the only way the feelings of sadness, despair, and lonliness you feel will go away. Medicine can't replicate God's love.
You sound like those damned Jehovah's that come to my door every month.

Joeiss 09-23-2004 12:17 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
"If I save a busload of childrens lives, I wont go to heaven because i didnt do it for God?"

No. If you are a non-believer, you will not go to heaven. If you believe in God, you will.

If you are a non believer, you still did a great thing, but it is meaningless. Christians live their lives to go to heaven for eternity. I am not sure if you understand that. So everything that we do should be done for our faith.

Typhoid 09-23-2004 12:47 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joeiss
"If I save a busload of childrens lives, I wont go to heaven because i didnt do it for God?"

No. If you are a non-believer, you will not go to heaven. If you believe in God, you will.

If you are a non believer, you still did a great thing, but it is meaningless. Christians live their lives to go to heaven for eternity. I am not sure if you understand that. So everything that we do should be done for our faith.


Do you take a big steamy sh*t every morning in Gods name?

Have you ever had pre-marital sex for God? (Totally forget which religions that is for)

I understand where you come from and what your saying, i justhate it when people seem to push their religion, or religious beliefs upon me. I know nobody is directing them at me...well....except GM in his last post. But its no big deal.

I just dont get the idea of devoting your life to something.

But i revert back to what i said, religion is geographical.

If any of us grew up in the Middle East, we would be Muslim, (most likely) If we grew up in Utah, we would be Mormon, if we grew up in Japan we would be Shintoists.

How many American born, white Shintoists do you see?

How many Asian born Muslims are there?


9And yes, I am singling out certain religions, because these are the only ones that came to my head.)

GameMaster 09-23-2004 01:06 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Dearest Sean, you are missing the stress of our proclamations.

It is not WHAT you do for God, but rather WHY you do for God.

We serve God in appreciation and holy thanks for his ultimate sacrifise.

A life under God, is the only correct life.

And those who are not under God, have not yet allowed themselves to be succumbed by his beacon of righteousness. And until they do, they will not feel salvation in their Earthly lives and they will not be granted access to his Holy Kingdom in the after life.

Typhoid 09-23-2004 01:13 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
Dearest Sean, you are missing the stress of our proclamations.

It is not WHAT you do for God, but rather WHY you do for God.

We serve God in appreciation and holy thanks for his ultimate sacrifise.

A life under God, is the only correct life.

And those who are not under God, have not yet allowed themselves to be succumbed by his beacon of righteousness. And until they do, they will not feel salvation in their Earthly lives and they will not be granted access to his Holy Kingdom in the after life.


Dearest Jeff.

What exactly did God sacrifice?

No, the life under God is not the only correct life, I am living a correct life without god. Its subjective. You think Im wrong for not believing in God, and while i dont think your wrong, i dont understand it, nor will I.

I feel salvated, thank you very much.

Dont make assumptions about how athiests live and think. We are the same people. Just because we dont pray to some imaginary old man in the sky doesnt mean were wrong, It means we have different beliefs, in a way, Atheism could be considered a religion. In a way. Not a religious way. :p

Joeiss 09-23-2004 01:39 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
Dearest Jeff.

What exactly did God sacrifice?
What did God sacrifice? WHAT DID GOD SACRIFICE?

What do you think the basis of Christianity is? God sacrificed his only Son for us. That is what God sacrificed for us.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Typhoid
Do you take a big steamy sh*t every morning in Gods name?

Have you ever had pre-marital sex for God? (Totally forget which religions that is for)

I understand where you come from and what your saying, i justhate it when people seem to push their religion, or religious beliefs upon me. I know nobody is directing them at me...well....except GM in his last post. But its no big deal.

I just dont get the idea of devoting your life to something.

But i revert back to what i said, religion is geographical.

If any of us grew up in the Middle East, we would be Muslim, (most likely) If we grew up in Utah, we would be Mormon, if we grew up in Japan we would be Shintoists.

How many American born, white Shintoists do you see?

How many Asian born Muslims are there?


9And yes, I am singling out certain religions, because these are the only ones that came to my head.)
No, I have never had pre-marital sex.

I do not think anybody here is pushing their beliefs on you. You are just making some random statements about people's religion, and they are posting what they feel about it. Calm down.

You don't get the idea of devoting your life to something? So when you are married and have kids, you won't be devoting your life to them? When you have a well-paying job that you love, you won't devote a large portion of your life to that? I think devoting our lives to God is a great way to get by in the real world. It teaches us morals and when we have our own families, it teaches us how to devote ourselves to them better.

Yes, religion is mostly geographical, but you forgot to mention how many people convert during their lives. Many people convert to Christianity, and many people convert out of it. Most people are shown different religiions and different paths, so they can find their way in life.

GameMaster 09-23-2004 01:48 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Misguided Sean,

God sacrifised his one and only son to pay for mankind's sins. And as long as you believe in him, you will not perish, you will instead go on to a glorious life of eternal peace and happiness.

You say that you are living a correct life and that you feel salvated but these are illusions you are tempted with by the spirit and soul of evil. They are unauthentic feelings and made only to pull you away from the correct path which is servitude under God. You are falling to temptations, but you can be saved and rekindled by the power of God just as long as you place your faith in his Almighty hands. If you can't do it alone, there are people who can help you, myself included. I believe you will do the right thing.

Canyarion 09-23-2004 04:37 AM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Germanator
You sound like those damned Jehovah's that come to my door every month.
THANKS!

So now I'm damned because I'm a Jehovah's Witness???

I am not the one pushing my belief on anyone here...

And besides, we don't visit you every month. More like twice a year.
:unsure:

The Duggler 09-23-2004 11:41 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
The Bible teaches me to be a kind and compassionate person. Anyone who doesn't read it cannot be kind or compassionate. Simple equation: read the Bible and you'll be a good person and you'll have a utopian afterlife. If you don't read it, you're not a good person and you won't have an enjoyable afterlife.
Quote:
The Bible is no ordinary book my comrade, it is a book of God. Whether the Bible you read from is from a hotel or from a museum, it is better than all other books of this world. And that is not an opinion, it is pure fact and truth.
Am I the only one here that thinks that those quotes are terribly wrong and offensive?

It's one think to believe in something my friend, but it's another to say that anybody or anything else that is not part of your beliefs is inferior. It's obnoxious, and the cause of all the inter-religious conflicts of this world.

Keep up the good work, gamemaster...

The Germanator 09-23-2004 11:50 PM
Re: What religion are you?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canyarion
THANKS!

So now I'm damned because I'm a Jehovah's Witness???

I am not the one pushing my belief on anyone here...

And besides, we don't visit you every month. More like twice a year.
:unsure:
I don't personally have anything against them...It's just that I don't understand why they have to keep coming back. We live in the country, in the middle of nowhere. They have to drive out to see us...it just seems like a lot of effort for a cause that if it doesn't work the first time you come to someone's house, it probably will not work the second time.

Anyway, I think the reason they keep returning is because my Step-dad is always real nice to them. If he isn't home I usually just pretend I'm not there either so I don't have to interact with them and feel awkward...

Canyarion, you've never come to my door, so you're not damned. :D


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