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No one was talking about calling someone unamerican, nor did they say that you couldn't call someone unamerican. My point was that just because you find fault in something, doesn't mean you hate it. I don't hate any country or any group of people, I hate individuals :)

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So has anyone seen what they did to Saddam's sons? They put putty and junk all over their faces to make them look more like they should. As if this isn't just screaming "We just killed 2 innocent men and tried to fool you into thinking it was your leaders!" (That's a lot to scream)

I'm beginning to think that the entire governmental body of the US is mentally retarted. Hmm...

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I believe they used wax, not putty.

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Hmm well they said putty on the Radio? And then later that night I saw the pictures on CNN, they looked super fake.

I read that Saddam's sons tortured people and raped would-be brides the day of their marriage. Sounds like a couple of nice, innocent people there.

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There were still visible wounds on the top of one of their heads... and such... and have you seen the images from before they touched them up with a bunch of stuff? They didn't look super fake...

When I saw what they did to the bodies (well, the faces) I knew people would start conspiracy theories about how it's not really them :p

That'd be funny if the government really did fake that it was them though... I bet Gekko and Bond would find any way they could to justify it... :sneaky:

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Oh please.

Be liberal, not ignorant.

They're dead, this is like the "the us faked 9/11" or the "if gore would have won, 9/11 wouldn't have happened" arguements. It's stupid.

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Well, at least you're not Justin.

Agreed, but you have to admit that we don't stick our noses into every single human rights abuse that's committed the world over. Case in point: China.

The U.S. is one of history's most benign superpowers if not the most benign, but it's still not philanthropic. There's always a certain amount of self-interest when we interfere. It might be to help our economy or it might be for some political gain. The fact is sending troops around is expensive. The government had better believe it's going to be worthwhile.

The rampant human rights abuses going on in Iraq might have been a good enough reason for you to send troops (or in same cases send yourself) over, but it's not a good enough reason for the public in general. When the public hears the word "war" nowadays, they think about all the sons and daughters who are going to die rather than the good it might do. And the American people will always choose their own kids over Iraqi kids.

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You're an idiot. They're dead.

Whoa, you guys got me all wrong. I didn't mean that they aren't dead. They probably are. What I was saying was that by putting wax or putty or whatever it was all over their faces it made it look like we went out and killed two innocent Iraqi people and tried to make it look like Saddam's sons. By doing that they made it easy for a bunch of Iraqi people to just say that we were lying all along. Before it was like "Well maybe they could be lying, who knows?" Now it just looks like we were lying and stuff and we were really trying to cover it up.

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At first we showed the bodies as we found them, then we waxed them up to make them look more lifelike. Either way there will always be conspiracy theories in Iraq. That's how things operate.

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I would just like to add that Saddam recently released another of his high-tech audiotapes in which he acknowledged the death of his sons, saying they were "martyred for Iraq" and also said America will be defeated.

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hmm, well i guess that proves that he's still alive