Iron Man 2
This is an early thread, but reviews are coming in and they don't sound too positive.
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Sucks. I guess it's to be expected though - if you look back at the trailers there's definitly a lot of stuff going on. Comic book movies never do well trying to fit what's basically huge crossover stories or arcs into single movies. The best of the bunch keep things straight-forward and almost simple, when it all break things down. Still, I'm sure this'll be very enjoyable
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I don't care about Hey U Guys or Slashing the Seats and I REALLY don't give a flying rat's ass what Ain't It Cool thinks about anything. Some of those others are somewhat respectable publications, though. I've never read a Variety review, but they aren't amateurs.
So meh. The movie is review proof. But it could just turn out that allowing comic book writers to write the movie was a bad idea. Side disclosure: I happen to think that having comic book writers write anything other than comic books is almost always a bad idea. See also Heroes, Smallville, The Spirit. |
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I could have seen it yesterday, but we decided on Clash of the Titans instead.
They showed the trailer for IM2, it looked entertaining... |
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And then there's Lost. And Batman the Animated series. And JLU. And Tiny Toon Adventures. And Ben 10. |
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/iron_man_2/
Right now it has a 76% rating at RT, with some very good reviews in the mix. I'm not sure why everyone seems to be concentrating on the negative reviews. |
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Since they only believe something is good or bad, and not so much the variance in those two. It has a RT score of 76%, but the average review places it at about 65%, which is about average/crust of failing in school. |
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According to Wikipedia, Tiny Toon Adventures was written head written by Tom Ruegger with assists from Jean MacCurdy, Jim Reardon and Tom Minton (among others). All of them are TV writers first, and most of them have never written a comic book. Never heard of Ben 10, but after looking at its info, I'll give you that one as well. And then I'll raise you David S. Goyer. I feel that The Dark Knight was a much better movie than Batman Begins in large part because they kicked him off writing duties. And when he attempted to direct the third Blade movie all by himself, the results were not pretty. And I did say "almost always a bad idea." There are some full-time comic book writers who know how to exercise a little restraint, but they seem to be the exception rather than the rule. On another note: Rottentomatoes only has 20 reviews so far. The vast majority of reviewers haven't seen the movie (or their reviews are embargoed). Rottentomatoes scores more than a week before the release date are generally not reliable. |
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Heh, so really there aren't too many comic book writers who make the transition from comics to something else. A lot more tv and book writers get into comics later like Joss Whedon, Stephen King, Joe Hill, Paul Dini, Greg Rucka, etc. and then jump back and forth between the mediums. Funny, seems like Ben 10 is the only real success story for comic writers transitioning to tv. Those guys and Dwayne McDuffie who did Static Shock, Justice League, and now the head guy in charge of Ben 10. But um yeah....how about that Iron Man. |
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It's not out for a week? :confused: How come the local cinema here already shows it?
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Yeah, its out in some places, for example, it came out on april 29th over here, i was going to watch it today but didnt go, will probably go on sunday.
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Yaay, we finally get something before America. :) But even I think that's weird...
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I saw this. It was good. The reviews are kind of true, but I think they're being a little harsh. There are a few scenes that sort of feel unnecessary or poorly done, but most of the movie is pretty good.
And the parts that aren't that great aren't really bad, they just sort of feel like more could be done with them. Sam Rockwell's character is sort of wasted. I like Sam Rockwell and he did well with what he had. I just think he was extraneous. A few other things, but again, not deal breakers. Its just not quite as amazing as the first one. |
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Saw it. It was pretty decent. I'm actually here with combine and swan in the theatre right now, waiting for the credits to finish cus there is something you should see ;)
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Heh, funny they take into account my local subway line at the end. I'd be more forgiving of the horrible service if the delays were due to battling robots.
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I LIKED IRON MAN 2. IT WAS GOOD. THE WRITING AND FLOW OF THE PLOT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER BUT ROBERT DOWNEY JR. IS GOOD ACTING.
Also, Scarlett Johansson is fine. |
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I saw it tonight. I didn't much care for it - the movie was all over the place, Stark/Iron-Man was much less likable, and there were too many facepalm moments.
"This new element will solve your problem, unfortunately it cannot be made." *Tony makes it* Overall not a -bad- movie, just such a disappointment after the first one. |
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Drunk Iron Man was great.
And Scarlett Johanssen has a very nice bottom |
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Since Iron Man 2 bucked the trend (where the sequel is better than the original for comic movies) I'll offer my theory why. It's actually the same theory for why I feel that the sequel usually is better than the original: Iron Man 2 was basically an intro/origins movie for War Machine and Justin Hammer. It was also an origins/intro movie for Stark's alcoholism, unless I missed that from the first movie. And an intro/origin for more SHIELD stuff which is building to the inevitable (its in these actor's contracts) and inevitably awful Avengers movie. On the other hand, Iron Man 2 featured a rockin' cast. Mickey Rourke was awesome and looked awesome, and Sam Rockwell is one of my favorite actors period. And Sam Jackson does a decent Nick Fury as far as Hollywood goes. So sure, the movie was less than perfect and it had a little bit of Spiderman 3 syndrome, but it wasn't an emo mess and it didn't bastardize the Venom story so it is all good by me. I STILL LIKE IT. |
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I enjoyed the movie. RDJ is still awesome as Stark. I could stare at Scar Jo for hours... and really wish she was featured more, and the action was cool.
The movie did have a ton of flaws though, but more importantly left me scratching my head How did Whiplash know that Stark was going to be in Monaco? I don't think it was ever mentioned in the movie before that. Stark creating a brand new element while bored one day at home. Any real motivation for the villains, like Whiplash is mad at Stark because felt his father was screwed over by Stark.... just didn't cut it. Drunk Iron Man was an awesome scene though. Though thought the fight was dumb. |
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The creation of the new element was complete bullpucky. He makes the element based on a diagram laid out in his father's plan for a city. The problem is the diagram clearly isn't an element. It's a molecule. You can tell because the picture of the "element" isn't a bunch of stuff orbiting a nucleus but is instead a bunch of particles linked to each other. And there's a huge difference. Creating a new element is nuclear physics and is really hard. Creating a new molecule is chemistry and is comparatively easy (hundreds of new molecules are put together every year). I know that's scientific nitpicking, but it annoyed me because it was so unnecessary. They could have just said "you must forge a new metal" or "you must synthesize a new alloy." There are lots of molecular structures that existed only in theory back in the 60s that we can now create today because of technological advances. Oh and also, listen to Nerds on the Rocks. We talk about a lot of this.[/plug] |
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I was just showering, and I do most of my thinking in the shower....
Why did they recast Rhodey? First off, what happened to Terrence Howard? Did he punch someone on set in the face? Did he want too much money? WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS SUPERIOR SIDEKICK!!!??? Second, why recast Don Cheadle who had zero chemistry and sucks ass as Rhodey? I know...I know....it's probably all about the money, and the contracts, and the inevitable Avengers flick. But the more I think about it, the more I think the whole War Machine origin story was horribly thrown together in Iron Man 2. I mean it sucked ass. Oh, Tony is drunk and dropping number 2s in his suit! Okay, well I guess I'm going to break into his workspace and steal the armor! And fight him! And somehow beat him! I mean what the fuck, that was just lame. Why couldn't they have just taken the high road and left Don Cheadle, Rhodey, and War Machine out of the Iron Man sequel. Seriously, it would have worked with just Iron Man. The only reason people are watching these films is because of Robert Downey Jr. anyway. I'm actually kind of upset the more I consider this alternate possibility they could have taken. |
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Apparently, Jon Favreau didn't get along with Terence Howard. We'll never actually know the real story of why they replaced him, though. Don Cheadle reportedly got the part three days before shooting began, so he probably wasn't feeling too prepared.
And I think the idea was that Tony knew he was dying, so he let Rhodey take the War Machine suit. But while we're talking about that suit, what were the drones made out of? They got cut up by bullets shot out of War Machine's wrist guns. Even if they were made out of plain old steel, no small caliber gun is that powerful. |
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I thought they got cut up by the shoulder cannon.... |
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I suppose. If you wanted to try to "explain" it within the story you could suppose that they really were "armored" like a car. The drones are simply refurbished version of the suits that Hammer had already built. Remember he said he "rushed the prototypes," etc. Anyway, small quibble. The movie has bigger issues. |
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