To those with both a DS and PSP...
 

Which did you enjoy more after first playing it? How does the DS compare now that you have a PSP? Which would you suggest more?

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i have a DS in the house, its not MINE, but i get the same amount of access to it.

honestly as i keep telling people, drop the names completly, who cares who makes which, look at just the list of options and decide what ones are important to you. they are both fine handhelds, just do differnet things.

that being said. i definently would NOT give up my psp for a DS, i didnt plan on buying any, but im extremly happy with my psp. it just does so much, and with many many more things it can do on the way. i love being able to hold a ton of pictures on it and it cycles thro them with ease, and i can sort them by putting them in thier own folder. and show em to whoever i like, and they're going to release a little addon on the top that lets ya take pictures with it.... And i love being able to play movies that i put on it myself. tv shows off of DVD's and my tivo. and for me personally, the bigger wide screen is much more useful to me then having 2 smaller screens.

and i enjoy the psp this much with only one game. lol. i just love all that it can do. i cant imagine how much i'll like it once its able to play the old mario and zelda games ;)


its all about what you plan on doing with the handheld. neither have any Spetacular games, but psp has some pretty good ones. and once nintendo gets over its dependency to make every DS game completly use the touch screen i think it'll have some really good ones too.

the DS is enjoyable. i'd be happy with it if i owned it. just for me i'd want all the things the psp can do and has the potential to do in the future.

And before Jonbo flips his lid, im sure MS will make a handheld sometime, and im sure it'll be good too. :p

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I've played my friend's DS and I've played some DS demo's at retail stores and I'd have to say it is a very enjoyable handheld. I played Wario Ware Touched and I had a lot of fun with it.

Ever since I bought the PSP, I've been playing it non-stop. I've always told myself that I would never fall into the handheld market because I never really play games on the go or while traveling. But to my surprise with the PSP, I'm playing everywhere now. Including music that I put on it.

The PSP changed the way I game... in fact I've played the PSP more the past week and a half more than I've played my PS2. But eventually that will change when I buy God of War. But back to the point, I'd have to say..

The DS and the PSP are great machines, no doubt about it, but since this is asking for opinionated discussion I'd have to say I enjoy the PSP a lot more.

Of course the DS has it's fun filled games and it's very enjoyable. But the games out for the PSP and the games I have for it, all appeal to me more, and are that much more enjoyable to me.

Hence, I enjoy the PSP more, but to avoid implication... the DS is also a wonderful machine.

And what would I suggest more? Well, it all depends on your game taste, and what you're looking for right now.

In my opinion, if your looking for in-depth games, and immersed gameplay the PSP is the way to go, with a bigger screen and great launch titles.

The DS is a party pleaser, where lots of people can have fun with it and play their favorite games.

I suggest to get the PSP to those who are pondering the decision, considerably because of the bigger LCD and the sharper resolution it gets. It also has some of the best launch titles out there. Untold Legends, Wipeout, Ridge Racer, Darkstalkers, Dynasty Warriors... a lot of fun games.

I let my friend's brother ( a very avid Nintendo fr3ak ) play the PSP with Untold Legends inside and these were his exact words... not mine:

"Ok... now i'm almost sure the DS will get owned."

Again.... his words.... not mine. So I can almost imagine what others may think after playing the PSP (yes... after playing it....not just speculating).

Dark Samurai's brother is now hooked on Untold Legends....

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I didn't even have to read kyuzos post to tell you he chose sony :p

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you can say that for most the people on the forum tho. we know what they'll choose.

like jonbo will come in here and say he chooses the MS handheld xbox even tho there isnt one.


:p

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uhmm.... I think there IS one!



But honestly speaking, I made an honest judgement between the handhelds.

The PSP has the market in games and graphics, and right now the touch screen isn't enough to give stiff competition. Right now, I think the REAL competition will be PSP vs. the New Gameboy coming out.

But my answer was in no way bias. I've experienced both DS and PSP and the truth is PSP is a superior machine in graphics and games. The DS has battery life and loading time on it's side... as is the case with many Nintendo handhelds.

Dan asked for what we thought was a better machine and what we'd suggest. So I suggested the PSP because I believe it IS a better machine then the DS in more ways then some. It's not completely better then the DS. But Dan asked and I answered, along with any others to come.

Please don't try to make this a fanboy derived thread.

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I don't own a PSP yet, but I imagine it would be more fun to play than the DS. Whenever I play DS I feel the screen size is restrictive now that I know there is a larger option available. I almost thought about trading in my DS, but there are a lot of cool games coming out eventually. Castlevania and Advance Wars are enough to make me want to hold on to it. Plus if I sold it I'd have to get an SP anyway so I really wouldn't be saving much.

DS
Innovative touch screen
Dual screens
Durable
Plays GBA games
Strong battery life
Fairly inexpensive

PSP
Large, crisp display
PS1.5 graphics
Plays umd movies
Plays mp3s and personal videos
Strong title selection

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What do you mean with PS1.5 graphics? I'm pretty sure it has PS2 graphics, if not better.

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For me, "unique" experiences only happen on DS, the PSP has too many ports for a "unique" experience handheld. Untold Legends is an OK kind of game on my book, Wipeout = boring, same with Lumines, Ridge Racer is the SH*T!! DarkStalkers and Twisted Metal are good games...

For the DS, the touch screen does make a difference in gameplay, sometimes bad, and sometimes good, Metroid Prime Hunters... ownage on PSP, I cant wait for it. That and Mario Kart.

For me, the DS didnt have much good games, and the PSP did... The DS needs to have a badass killer app, and Mario Kart and Metroid are just the ones to do it... Online...

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i'd call em more along the lines of DC graphics. its better then 1.5, however, as much as they can pull tricks to make things look as good as they do on ps2. like they say the GT games look identical, if it were displayed on a full sized screen i think you'd notice the differences.

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So in essence, you chose? lol

Honestly though, I don't think too many people would strive for a DS because of games that will eventually or games that are going to come out.

At this point in time... PSP has the games that attract sales.

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The DS makes my hands cramp. Anyone get that with the PSP?

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Well honestly, they don't cramp but my hands get tired playing the PSP ... lol... but it'll probably happen if you play it as long as me.

But no.... no cramps for me.

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As soon as I start playing it my hands start to hurt. I think it's because the controls are right on the edges. The angle forces your thumbs in tight.

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They both give me hand cramps.

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Well this guy told me that both handhelds have depleted uranium in them and it makes the hair on your hand fall out...

lol... (winks at Dark Samurai)

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vertical ones always did that the worst to me, like the GBC and the GBA SP. i hated the vertical design,

i find with the horizontal ones you can hold them differently to make it more comfortable.

Like i dont hold it with the edges touching my palms or base of my thumbs, i first wrap my index fingers over the sides so they're touching the shoulder buttons first. my other fingers curl up underneth to give it suport, and then i can play with my thumbs fully extended cuz the unit sits higher up in my hand.

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I find the PSP to be more comfortable, but thats just me. Nintendo seems to think all their customers have small hands...

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HA!!! That was so funny, Sony, with their "ignorious" battery life compared to DS's.

Nintendo obviously has un-depleted uranium, making it the better handheld for the masses... Therefore the obvious choice...

(What you winking at me for?)

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Both handhelds and have their strengths and weaknesses :) DS obviously has touch screen, PSP has graphics and other various things. Both will do well. Nintendo will lose some market share but its a given. Both will live on forever. :)

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Thanks for all the input guys.

Since some people said their hands felt cramped with the DS, how do you hold your system? Thumbs straight flat on the buttons or poised to attack like I do where the thumbs are bend and the tips press the buttons. I used to have a magazine that diagrammed all the ways one could hold a gameboy.

I actually like DS more as a system...but I need to play some of the games on PSP. Lumines, Mercury, and the like. (I'm a puzzle whore.) See, I would much rather these games be available for systems I already own. I would be buying PSP for games and not for the sake of the PSP whereas I think if I bought a DS it would be for the system and not so much because of the games.

Hmm, *takes a look at the list of PSP games out right now* Is Lumines worth buying a PSP for? All the other titles don't interest me in the least. And DS...well nothing on it interests me right now.

One more thing. On the train today two guys were talking about the PSP. Does Spiderman 2 (the movie on UMD) come bundled with it for free as they mentioned?

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Whether or not you'd think Lumines is worth buying a PSP for would depend on your financial status. However, I can tell you that the game is totally awesome, bordering on brilliant. If you've played and loved games like Rez, you'll have a pretty good idea of what to expect with Lumines. With these games, it's not just about the fun and exciting gameplay, it's also very much the experience. It's like therapy for the soul, they take you to a zen-like zone, with complete immersion into a fantastic world.

Yeah, I know, same people will say "it's a puzzle game, you drop squares and make noises", but its so much more if you can just go beyond the obvious.


Anywho.... Spide-Man 2 the movie comes bundled free with the PSP value pack.

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I want to play Lumines so bad. I also want to play the DS game Meteos, or whatever it is being developed by the same group.

Anyways, as far as the whole DS vs PSP thing goes, I think anyone would be out of their mind to say DS. As much as I love Nintendo, I'll admit that PSP is a far sexier beast. The games look better, and it sure isn't lacking in the software market like DS was/is (this is always nintendo's biggest fault... why can't they have more titles at launch?)

The only problem with PSP is the battery and price point, which are huge for me. I was looking at the PSP, and thought of how great it'd be to have one... then I realized I could get a PS2 and a few games for much cheaper. DS has such a good price that it probably is what I'll buy in the future when I have more money. I'm not spending $350 for a handheld system (Canadian price).

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I just wish people would stop complaining about the price...

$250 is a value pack price, do not compare it to the DS which is the solo package.

Sure you don't need all thats in the value pack, but thats what the price point is for the value package. Discrediting the PSP or Sony for the price point and comparing it to the 180 DS is ridiculous.

In Japan they released the PSP units, individually at $185. Now what do you think is a better buy DS $180 or PSP $185? I'm sure North America will eventually get their Solo packages.

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Where are you getting 180 for DS? It's 199 in Canada, and 150 in the states. Is that a launch price, or a store's bundle price?

And until there is a solo pack available in North America, the price point will be $250. And the price for DS will be $150. Plus, games for DS are (on average) 10 dollars cheaper (USD).

Whether you are willing to admit it or not, 100 dollars (150 in Canada) is a LOT of money, and price is an issue. I want to feel like I'm getting my money's worth when I buy a system. Rather than get a PSP with no games, I can get a DS and 3 games. That sounds pretty awesome to me as the consumer.

Battery life is also huge, because the main time I use a portable system is for road trips. If all I get is four hours of life out of a system, that's not very much at all for a lot of the travelling I do (mostly by car).

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Danny, how bout Polarium for the DS? That sounds like right up your alley. :)

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I'm getting to be quite interested in Mercuy for psp, looks like a pretty cool puzzle type game. :) and they're including the tilt sensor with the game last i heard. :)

price on psp, it has room to drop, but honestly, you get a lot more with it then when the DS package, so to me it feels like the extra money went into the extra things gotten with the package.

i've yet to hear anyone with a psp complain about batteries and yet to see any real issues with mine. went a couple days using it off and on and didnt get below 50% power. and for me thats using a handheld a lot. so i have no worries about future battery problems either.

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You had to raise the question about the games being $10 cheaper?

I'm sorry.... they may be cheaper, but have you SEEN the graphics on the PSP? I've had speculation, but ever since I actually played it....... no cmment

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Again, I was talking about price point, not graphics.

I'm not a graphics whore. I really don't care too much what games look like as long as they are some good fun. Do I think that the PSP blows away DS in the graphics department? Hell yes. But it doesn't make PSP games any cheaper, and that extra 10 dollars on a handheld system goes a long way.

As far as the "value" bundle that Null was talking about, there's nothing in there that I want. It's all unnecessary for me, and therefore it's not a value deal for me.

IGN's head to head between the two seemed to be really good to me... here's a good quote:

"So in theory, the Nintendo DS is a better portable system but the PSP is the better all-around system. This seems like a fair enough assessment and the final word we'll stick with."

That's basically my feelings.

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I'm not saying anything about being a graphics whore. You're not trying to understand my point. I'm not talking about graphics either, but I'm using it as a factor in my debate.

You say it's a turn off because PSP games are $10 more, and it goes a long way in handheld systems. I say, the PSP games are more expensive because they have better graphics.

Having better graphics, in turn makes development costs higher, making it $10 more. That is my arguement. I'm trying to explain WHY they are $10 more or higher.

For you it may not be, but a lot of people see the Value Pack as a good value. Sure, you may not want or need anything that comes with it, but that's no reason to say it's not a value pack. It's called a Value Pack because it has a lot of VALUE inside. 32mb memory sticks are around $20, Spiderman2 is $20, Carrying case $20, Earbuds $10. Making the package $70 more then a solo pack (180+70 = $250)

Now if you were to buy all those (if you wanted) seperately..... you'd pay a lot more in taxes... there fore making it a VALUE PACK. It's like a McDonalds Value Meal....... no one needs Fries and a Drink... but it's good to just get one thing or order one thing and have a lot more.

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never said it was a deal for you, im simply stating that its not really overpriced because the extra money does goto something.'

so its not really too much money for a handheld. its that the package isnt right for you.

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Okay, I understand a bit more of what you're saying. I knew that graphics make the development costs higher and all that sort of stuff, but i thought you were just saying "well the games look nicer so they should cost better" or something stupid like that.

As far as the Value Pack, I realize that it is called a value pack because it offers some value. I just stated that for me, and a lot of other people, a true "value pack" would come with just the system, so that the extra 70 dollars could be put towards a game rather than headphones and Spiderman 2.

Yeah, I realize that and I'm sorry if it confused anyone... I was basing it from my standpoint of not needing these things.

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I've now gotten the chance to sample each system, and it just seems as though the DS is a generation behind PSP. The audio and video is just so much better, it's like comparing N64 to Dreamcast or PS2 when it first came out.

Actually, I think first gen PSP titles are looking better than first gen PS2 titles...

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Lucky for Nintendo, that the DS was just a small side project meant to entice Nintendo fans while their next Gameboy is being developed. The DS was never meant to directly compete with PSP. That job is reserved for the next Gameboy. And when it's finally released, there's a good chance that PSP could be pwned to the max with the force of a 1000 earthquakes.

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When asked about the next Game Boy at the Game Developer's conference, Reggie's head exploded. Either they're not planning on making one any time soon or the higher-ups aren't telling him anything. I think because of the good initial sales of DS they're blinded by what PSP offers. Though PSP isn't selling nearly as well as DS did...but the time of year must be taken into account too. What I've noticed though is that Nintendo does not handle competition well. They're fine when they're not chanllenged. When they are though, some chemical process sets off in the brain of the great mightly 'tendo to do something...something not so good...something evi...something...um, somethingish.

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This is so true it hurts.

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a small side project?


that's PR for admitting it is inferior compared to its competition

the PSP or GBASP can "entice" Nintendo fans while their next Gameboy is being developed, couldnt they?

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i have no idea where the rumors of a gameboy got started. i think it started just cuz nintendo said its not a sequal to the gameboy. and suddendly spewed off into this huge thing about there being a new gameboy just around the corner.

i dont believe that for 1 second and i question anyone who actually does. It would be total suicide for nintendo to release the DS, get everyone to buy one just to turn around in the same year and say, And heres the new gameboy! people would say screw that and get a PSP.

i guarentee you will NOT see another nintendo handheld untill at LEAST 2007

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As an eager PSP buyer, I have a question:

Can the PSP read standard video formats like mpeg and avi?

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:lol:

I love the wording...