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Crash 04-07-2005 03:13 PM

Why is PSP so expensive
 
cause Sony can't afford to lose anymore money on it's operations.


Sony's total debt stood at 6.71 trillion yen ($61 billion) on June 30

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...As0&refer=asia

Quote:

Sony's shares fell 1.5 percent to 3,890 yen today in Tokyo. The Nikkei 225 Stock average rose 0.4 percent.

Standard & Poor's today said it is reviewing Sony's A+ long- term debt rating, its fifth-highest, for a possible downgrade because the acquisition may damage Sony's balance sheet. MGM's losses over three years, which total about $740 million, make it ``uncertain what contribution MGM can make to Sony's profits,'' S&P said. Sony's total debt stood at 6.71 trillion yen ($61 billion) on June 30.

That's a lot of debt... Microsoft has lost $5+ Billion this generation too... No wonder Nintendo is in no hurry to try and take over the #1 spot. They are still making good money even in last place.

Dark Samurai 04-07-2005 03:31 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Damn, and here I am ready to say that the PSP is really 180-190 dollars but because of the value pack its $250.

But damn, you just stole my own answer from me...

DarkMaster 04-07-2005 03:32 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
*sigh* This is Sony the ELECTRONICS company's loss, not Sony COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT. You might be surprised to learn that they are two completely different divisions.


And considering the technology and capabilities of the PSP, as well as what is included in the value pack, it is not over priced at all.

Blackmane 04-07-2005 03:44 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
They are probably not making much money on the hardware right now, if they aren't already taking a hit for it. Probably not as bad as Microsoft initially was, but still, probably something.

Null 04-07-2005 03:47 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
people never seem to understand that dark, some *coughcrashcough* are just too quick to jump on anything bad that concerns sony.

and it is certainly not expensive. people were saying it was going to cost 400, and it gets released at 250 in a VALUE pack, normal package will prolly come out at 200, yet they still complain expensive. i dont see how its expensive when its not much over what a DS costs. i'd say both are very well priced for what they are.

MuGen 04-07-2005 03:57 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
At least someone (DarkMaster) understands that divisions play a huge role in the electronics business.

Sony has spent millions on it's HDTV and WEGA televisions, and Samsung is currently destroying them in that department. That is the result in the huge debt Sony Electronics is in. Don't be so trigger happy with dismal news about Sony... because it's just their Consumer Electronics division that is in debt. Different divisions are funded by different subsidiaries and third parties.

Sony Computer Entertainment is a division funded by many different subsidiary companies. The losses in their consumer electronics division hurt the company as a whole, but it does not effect the price point of the PSP.

Do your homework.... PSP is reasonably priced. Everyone might not like that it's only available as a value pack, but that's no grounds to say it is overpriced. The solo unit in Japan is $185.

EDIT: Did anyone else notice how contrived it was to post this thread, considering this article reports on their situation on June 30, 2004.

Blackmane 04-07-2005 03:59 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
My parents just bought a Sony Wega 42" Flat Screen.


I hope that helps pull you out of debt, Sony. Best wishes. :D

MuGen 04-07-2005 04:00 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
LOL... their constribution will probably be noted, considering Samsung is owning Sony in the TV/Electronics department.

Perfect Stu 04-07-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
best. thread. ever.

Crash, you're on a roll.

MuGen 04-07-2005 04:14 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Why am I always the one that gets rebuked for starting threads of a controversial and/or pointless matter?

Perfect Stu 04-07-2005 04:17 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo
Why am I always the one that gets rebuked for starting threads of a controversial and/or pointless matter?


The same reason why the dinosaurs died...

MuGen 04-07-2005 04:19 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
For some reason I understand you.

EDIT: Update from Credit Suisse First Boston....

Sony sold 600,000 to 700,000 units of the PSP, as the game player is known, in the first week of U.S. sales, Credit Suisse First Boston said April 1, citing its own survey of retailers. Sony said it prepared 1 million units for the release.

Crash 04-07-2005 04:45 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
perfect stu, you're what keeps these boards fun... I love you man! :D

GameMaster 04-07-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo
Why am I always the one that gets rebuked for starting threads of a controversial and/or pointless matter?

How dare you turn the focus of this thread toward yourself! :mad:

Crash and other members have the full right to discuss the good and bad factors of a gaming company and anything accompanied with it.

MuGen 04-07-2005 05:01 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GameMaster
How dare you turn the focus of this thread toward yourself! :mad:

Crash and other members have the full right to discuss the good and bad factors of a gaming company and anything accompanied with it.

I looked at your profile GM, and just realized your 18 years old..... but I'm not implying anything. I'm not going to sit here in a constant fued with you man, I have better ways of wasting my time.

Perfect Stu 04-07-2005 05:06 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash
perfect stu, you're what keeps these boards fun... I love you man! :D

:guitar:

DeathsHand 04-07-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo
I looked at your profile GM, and just realized your 18 years old..... but I'm not implying anything. I'm not going to sit here in a constant fued with you man, I have better ways of wasting my time.

I don't get it

Perfect Stu 04-07-2005 05:13 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathsHand
I don't get it


dont be a Mr. Negative No-No, DH.

JOIN THE PARTY!

:guitar:

:drum:

:beat:

DeathsHand 04-07-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
dont be a Mr. Negative No-No, DH.

JOIN THE PARTY!

:guitar:

:drum:

:beat:

I'm not being a Mr. Negative No-No, I'm quite amused!

Not only is GM 19 as of a few days ago, but Kyozu seems to be implying that because he's less than a year older than him, he's somehow far superior and GM is not worth his time (even though we all know it's GM's job to post random seriously-worded BS for the sake of being goofy and maybe pushing people's buttons)...

But I am also a tad confused, because I thought people grew out of that whole mindset somewhere between middle and high school...

Or I could just be misinunderstanding this whole situation, because after all Kyozu "Wasn't implying anything"...

Crash 04-07-2005 05:46 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo
I have better ways of wasting my time.

Like Playing a PSP


Eh, you guys are like moonlighting, it's fun to watch you to bicker about things.

MuGen 04-07-2005 05:48 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
I'm not implying that I'm superior by age.... I'm implying that he's 19 years old and he acts childish. Especially with his constant bantering when I post something.

DeathsHand 04-07-2005 06:03 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo
I'm not implying that I'm superior by age.... I'm implying that he's 19 years old and he acts childish. Especially with his constant bantering when I post something.

But he posts his silly banter when anybody posts anything...

all in good fun...

Doesn't really matter, the way I see it all topics crash starts are useless, and (to put it in the least childish way I can think of) nobody likes him.

But you learn to laugh at him instead of letting that stick slide further up your ass.

Besides, by the time you post your reply Crash has probably gone back to zoning the rest of the world out so he can play his Nintendo while giggling at nothing, completely oblivious to the fact that he's drooling on himself.

MuGen 04-07-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
I'm not letting anything slide up my arse :p -- he is the one who keeps directing malice at me...

Crash 04-07-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathsHand
But he posts his silly banter when anybody posts anything...

all in good fun...

Doesn't really matter, the way I see it all topics crash starts are useless, and (to put it in the least childish way I can think of) nobody likes him.

But you learn to laugh at him instead of letting that stick slide further up your ass.

Besides, by the time you post your reply Crash has probably gone back to zoning the rest of the world out so he can play his Nintendo while giggling at nothing, completely oblivious to the fact that he's drooling on himself.

:beerchug:

actually I think just the sony fanboys dont like me.... crash walks away to go have a good cry

MuGen 04-07-2005 06:26 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
I like you Crash, but I dislike your threads concerning the shortcummings of a certain brand... :p :beerchug:

Crash 04-07-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
but we can agree everyone hates GameMaster!!!



























just kidding GM, I think you're hilarious... + rep

Blackmane 04-07-2005 06:30 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Well, I dislike everyone's threads that proclaim the uberness of the PSP. Equally as annoying.

But, before someone says something, I don't want the posts to stop. This forum thrives on controversy, and I love seeing a post that I wanna just yell about because it gives me something to yell about.

If we didn't have Crash, where would all the PS2 fanboys get a chance to take the high road?

Perfect Stu 04-07-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackmane
This forum thrives on controversy, and I love seeing a post that I wanna just yell about because it gives me something to yell about.




in that case,


I had intercourse with your significant other...aaand you're a stupid dumb-dumb

Teuthida 04-07-2005 07:08 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Every company is doomed in the end...what with the volcanoes and all.

Blackmane 04-07-2005 07:12 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
in that case,


I had intercourse with your significant other

Ew, you had sex with Typhoid?

:lol:

Dark Samurai 04-07-2005 07:16 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackmane
Ew, you had sex with Typhoid?

:lol:


Umm... wouldnt that imply that you did too? uh... ownd himself?

Blackmane 04-07-2005 07:20 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
He just said my significant other. That just means he is significant to me, but not nessesarily that we have 'done' anything.


Un-ownd!!!!

Dark Samurai 04-07-2005 07:25 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackmane
He just said my significant other. That just means he is significant to me, but not nessesarily that we have 'done' anything.


Un-ownd!!!!


Uh... no... I dont believe it to be true!... (Kyuzo!)

Perfect Stu 04-07-2005 07:30 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackmane
Ew, you had sex with Typhoid?

:lol:



well apparently I did!


...



:(

Teuthida 04-07-2005 07:37 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
*walks into thread*

hmm, um...ah, uh...yeah...

*leaves thread*

GameMaster 04-07-2005 08:23 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Is there a place for my name in this mischievious innuendo?

On the subject of PSP being expensive, I think $200 is a fair price for the individual unit with no values. I'd like to see it dropped to $150 in a year or two once the novelty of it has worn off or as a tactic to compete with GBA-2 Extreme.

Crash 04-07-2005 09:55 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackmane
Ew, you had sex with Typhoid?

:lol:

who hasn't?

DarrenMcLeod 04-07-2005 10:07 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo
I'm not implying that I'm superior by age.... I'm implying that he's 19 years old and he acts childish. Especially with his constant bantering when I post something.

You are posting in a videogames forum and your avatar is anime.

Never complain about others acting childish.

MuGen 04-07-2005 11:19 PM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
The forum may be GameTavern but there are far more elements in play here then just games. Just take a look at all the other forums I post in.

EDIT: For the record Highlander, I didn't complain, simply explaining my earlier pun.

And almost everyone has an avatar that has nothing to do with games.

KillerGremlin 04-08-2005 12:02 AM

Re: Why is PSP so expensive
 
God I hate white poeple, those f*cking fancy white people. Only black people are good, because they aren't as fancy.

You all should join the KKFK. Klu Klux Fanboy Klan.

We should all just hold hands and screw each other in the behind. I call dibs on crash's ass.


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