Rev Graphics barely better then GC?
 

Well, got the newest EGM today and according to the rumor section area, early dev kits sent out to developers, they are saying the graphics are barely better then Gamecube.

Hoping its not true but who knows :p

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If it is true, I'll only be buying one to sell on eBay the next day. I demand jaw dropping graphics from all my next generation systems and I don't take, "No," for an answer.

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How about a "maybe" GM?

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If it's true (which I have no doubt that it is) I'm gonna need plenty of cel-shaded games to be appeased.

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This seems pretty likely IMO. I don't know, I've got a gut feeling about this, and my gut is quite appeased at this moment with some Vanilla Chocolate Swirl Ice Cream.


But hey, it ain't no Cookie Dough! AM I RITE!?

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Perhaps part of the revolution is that the gameplay is the real appealing factor, not the graphics?


/me shrugs and walks away

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With the way mainstream gamers are graphic whores, thats why this came up ;) :p

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Or at least that's what they're hoping for, and that they also hope it will actually sell well in a market with 2 graphical beasts...

Anywho I'd heard this rumor before... *shrug*... I could see it being true so that they do focus on the gameplay, while being able to sell it for cheap (Less than the normal new system minimum of 200? *strokes beard*)...

But at the same time, I believe someone from Nintendo (perhaps the prez himself?) said something about the graphics not really being much worse than the 360/PS3 level? Though he could be on crack... Maybe there's some sort of disease that causes every President of Nintendo to go insane?

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Nintendo tells contradicting stories about the graphics. First they tell us that the Revolution won't have much worse graphics than 360/PS3, later they say it won't have the same power.....

Nintendo probably thinks the new Zelda almost looks as good as the next gen games.

When the controller was revealed and they didn't show any graphics, I had N64-graphics in my mind. :unsure:

And only NOW the dev kits are out? :hmm:

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I thought they said a while back that kits were already "out there." Though who knows what kind they were and how many received them?

There's no real way to quantify what "not much worse" means. I will be quite disappointed if there is a noticeable difference between revolution graphics and 360 graphics.

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After seeing the Revolution controller, I highly doubt they put any more emphasis on their graphical leaps and bounds, then needed. I think they worked more towards a way to make their controller revolutionary, rather then making a beast of a machine.

The only thing we can REALLY confirm that it's going to at least have better graphics then the Gamecube......... but how much better is another question.

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Barely better than gamecube? Somehow I doubt this...I mean technology has come a long way in 5 years time, surely they can at least double the power of the Gamecube for fairly cheap? Correct?

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Yeah pretty good point. And somehow I can't imagine ATI delivering something cheap like that.

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of course they CAN make the graphics better.. the question is how much less of a cost would nintendo want to make it.. by making it not as technologically advanced as the otheres they could hit thier target market much better by getting the price even lower the expected.


im not saying this is true or not, but just that there would obviously be reasons they'd do what they decide to do.

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like i said... the only real thing we can believe at this point is that they'll at least be better than the gcn

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We already knew that it wouldn't be much better than the gamecube, remember the metroid video?

I dont care about graphics though, that's why I have an xbox 360

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That half a secon metroid video was obviously WAY early in development. I honestly dont think you should use that as an example.

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Are you guys talking about the metroid demo some magazine people got to play but with the rev controller or something else?

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Something else. Nintendo showed a tiny trailer of Samus standing somewhere..... Graphics were... not noticably better than GCN. They would have been better off not showing that.

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Samus seemed just a tad more detailed. Eh. The surrounding world looked pretty cool though. Stylistic > Realistic anyday...well most days. Not expecting the graphics to blow me away or anything. People will be interested in the gameplay. And if developers take the extra time and energy they can make a game look pretty damn nice even with lacking power.

Of course I'm just praying for a WW styled game. I couldn't care less for realism. Never played another game that looked that nice.

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I was talking to a guy I worked with today who just recently read about the Revolution. He had some interesting things to say. He basically just said the controller looks crazy, and that he couldnt really see people buying into it. Typical response im afraid. Although he DID say he liked the look of the console itself more than the other 2, which did suprise me somewhat.

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They'll release a Nintendogs game...more fluid petting maneuvers with the new controller...instant success...I'm not worried.

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I suppose if 2.5 times more powerful could be considered "barely better than the GC," then you could say that this rumor is true.

And apparently what's also very nice about the Revolution is that it will be very easy to develop for, especially compared to the multi-core systems from Sony and Microsoft.

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many developers are happy about developing for the multi core systems, they say its giving them good practice to have for future computer games.



honestly tho, we hear about hard to develope for / easy to develope for every console gen.. it means very little to most people.

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That explains a lot. :)

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I really don't think it matters which system is easier to develop for. In the end you get out of it what you put into it. If people weren't challenged, they wouldn't get better.

PS3 and (i think) the X360 both utilize OpenGL and C+ based languages for developers so I wouldn't say they are the hardest ever to develop for considering these are all tried and true languages. Revolution can't be that much easier to work with, unless what they are saying is that the system hasn't changed much from GCN and they already are familiar with it's architecture.

"Work hard and you will be rewarded. Take the short cut, and you will be cut short. Your reward can be financial or spiritual... but it will always be proportioned to the effort you made."
Rev Run

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What I don't get about the Nintendo fans (mostly on IGN boards... when I generalize 'Nintendo fans', I'm speaking of the overall tone of the IGN boards, which really are a horrible source to 'poll', I admit) is that they laugh about how the 360 is "Xbox 1.5" graphically, and yet it's a lot more powerful than "2.5 times Xbox"...

But when they hear that Revolution is "About 2.5 times more powerful than GameCube", they're like "Come on 2.5 times more powerful than Gamecube? How is that bad at all! Imagine RE4 now with 2.5 times more power!"...

As if 2.5 times the power = 2.5 times better graphics...

But like... 5-10 times (or whatever, I dunno Xbox/360's specs) the power = "XBOX 1.5 LMAOZ!"?

:confused:

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Calling an entire system two or three or ten times more powerful than another system is silly to begin with. But the point I was making when I posted that link was that apparently, the Revolution is more than just "barely" more powerful than the GameCube. Surely it won't be as powerful as the Xbox 360 or PS3, but at least it will be an improvement.

And well, I guess the controller is worth a tenfold improvement in processing power for some peolpe anyway.

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We all know fanboys are stupid, what's your point DsH?

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It's only called Xbox 1.5 because of that statement from Kutaragai or whoever.

You're taking at face value, DsH. Don't.

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Not really, I wasn't basing everything on "Xbox 1.5" so much as I was simply pointing out that they are defending Rev's power, yet laughing at 360's graphics...

" '2.5x' power isn't bad at all!"
"360 LOL They call that next-gen TEE HEE"... It just doesn't make sense...

But yeah, Canyarion brought up a valid point... Fanboys are stupid :D
I just love to point out such stupidity...

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Yay what did I win?

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Except that Microsoft has always preached that awesome graphics are important. Therefore making the 360 an Xbox 1.5 doesn't meet those standards, which is why we can laugh at them. Nintendo on the other hand has always downplayed the importance of graphics. Perhaps then we would be laughing at them if they changed their minds and released a system on par with PS3.

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it will still be a little bit before lazy developers make a game that looks next generation.


I'm glad nintendo didn't decide to compete with sony and microsoft for graphics power.

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Let's start off with a picture of Goldeneye.


Let's move on to a picture of Quake 3 for PS2 (launch game of the first current-gen consoles to be released, not counting Dreamcast)...


And continue to a picture of Quake 4 for Xbox 360 (launch game of the first next-gen console to be released)...

Or perhaps a different comparison...


Start off with Goldeneye once more...


Timesplitters (again, PS2 launch game)


Perfect Dark: Zero (launch game)...

And those (of course) aren't even showing off the greatly improved animations and various effects...

I seriously wonder how people can look at these images, all the other images, the videos, etc of the games that are out and the games that are coming out in the future, and NOT consider them to be "next-gen" (visually)...

I guess for the same reason people still bash Sony for the PS2 "not living up to it's original tech demos", when infact if you actually GO BACK AND WATCH THEM, you'd realize that it matched, if not surpassed every single one of them?

People tend to remember things as looking a lot better than they actually did...

I mean have they all forgotten Dreamcast vs. PS2?
"ZOMG That's PS2!? LOL! JAGGIES! That doesn't even look as good as most dreamcast games!"...

And now what do people say? With their MGS3, God of War, Shadow of Colossus, Resident Evil 4?
"ZOMG That's next-gen!? LOL! It barely looks better than the games that are out today! Xbox 360 more like Xbox 1.5!"

Sorry, I just had to get that all out... Probably the issue that's bothering me the most these days, on account'a it's complete bull****... :>

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Did the makers of PS2 really promise Toy Story 2 graphics? If they did, then that was an obvious lie. We won't see Toy Story 2 graphics until PS4 or PS5.

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We need a FPS playing the role of Woody.

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Teehee...

You said Woody.



That is all.

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Yes, because Nintendo can't compete with Sony and Microsoft. The videogame industry has become a big business industry. Nintendo simply can't compete with Sony and Microsoft, so they are trying to find a niche that will at least give them some honorable sales.

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Why sell peanut butter when you make better jelly?