Feel the atmoshpere in Metroid Prime: new pics.
 

Now THAT really looks good!!! :eek:
Retro Studios is doing a great job. :D

Can't wait for this!

People are calling it the Halo killer. But it's a FPA, not FPS.

Plus I think Halo was way overhyped to begin with :unsure:

I never played Metroid much, but I like the concept behind the character.

i never really cared for FPS games, but this one looks different. more fun and adventuring, i think i shall buy!

I don't think there are many games that you can compare this with. It has the atmosphere of Aliens vs Predator (play it!!! great game!!), the graphics of Halo (?) and the adventure of.... well, Metroid! :D

Especially the rain looks great!

IGN's thoughts:

"Fabulous. Amazing. Outstanding. Phenomenal. Wow. Any of these words sum up the latest four levels in Metroid Prime. Before E3 2002 we had our doubts about Metroid Prime as a whole. After the show, we had our doubts that other levels would be as solid as the first demo. Now, we have no doubts. This game kicks our collective ass. It's stunningly beautiful, clever, innovative, and most of all fun. It'll remind players why they've always loved the Metroid franchise and at the same time blow away newcomers with its style, theme and play mechanics. This is Nintendo's flagship title."

Can't wait!! :D

Overhyped?

Hype has nothing to do with Halo... I din't know/care about Halo until it was released, so I never really saw the hype. Plus, when it was released, it got great scores from everywhere, so apparently it lived up to the hype.

In my opinion, Metroid is the best example of a game being overhyped. Some people act as if this game will flip the whole industry... but I can see lots of games I think will be better than Metriod.

Oh, and I doubt a FPA will beat out (probably) the best home console FPS of all time. It doesn't even have multi-player... and for a first person game that's usually a big no-no.

Everybody is entitled to thier opinion, but I seriously think this game will not live up to the hype.

Well, Luigi's Mansion was overhyped but I don't see anyone commenting on that.

Halo was the most hyped Xbox launch title, but a lot of the hype came from the fans, not so much Microsoft or Bungie.

Exactly.. how was LM the best selling launch game of all time??? Best selling, but certainly not the best game.

its an FPS.

i dont know who started this FPA crap. but all that was, was to get people off thier back about changing metroid into a FPS. So they're all like. ohhh FPA, well thats alight then. just as long as its not FPS.


no, Its in first person, you shoot things, its an FPS. does that mean games like turok, halo, bond or anything else doesnt have an adventure?

acctually, it doesn't. Bond/Halo are more like Action games, while Metroid is an Adventure game. I'd much rather Metroid be a FPS, but it's not.

I havent really heard much from nintendo an retro about metroid except that they think it will be a fun experience and a great game. Much like it was for halo. The fans of XBox were going nuts when it came closer to launch, much like it is for metroid.

Halo, walk around in first person. shoot the enemy


Metroid, walk around in first person, shoot the enemy

from what i seen so far, id say halo was more of a quote unquote adventure, it was oudoor more wide open. from what i seen of Metroid its more indoor, down hallways and stuff.

be however technical you want about this. saying ones action, ones adventure. go thro your rules of what makes what different. Both your exploring worlds or levels or what not, shooting the bad guy. both are FPS. obviously you do differnt things in each of thoes two FPS. but same with every FPS, you do differnt things, you going to give a differnt name for every one? say one was a horror game, dark, mysterous, kinda look doom meets Resident Evil............... in first person.

oh wait. that must be a FPH then. :rolleyes:

Well metroid is more exploration the shooting. It even has auto-aim. They probably would make you shoot much had samus never originaly have a gun.

By your logic, Metroid for SNES is a 3rd person Shooter... but due to the fact that it lacks action like that, it's an Adventure game.

is Metroid an RPG because you play the Role of Samus? Is it a fighting game because you fight enymys?

in the words of Macho Man "What it is, is what it is" and what it is, is an Adventure game... just because the camera is in 1st person it doesn't make it a FPS. Because it's not a shooting game to begin with. Halo you run around to shot and kill, Goldeneye you run around to shoot and kill, and in metroid you are exploring.

if Halo was in third person... you run around to shoot and kill, if Goldeneye was in this person.... you run around to shoot and kill.... if Metroid were in third person (which it was) you are still just exploring.

is Metal Gear Solid a shooting game just because you can use a gun? No, it's a lot more than that, same with Metroid.

pretty lame side of an argument.

your talking about games that already have a catagory.

not taking a game thats obviously in one catagory, and making up a whole new catagory for it just to make it sound differnt.


your going around, collecting differnt types of weapons. shooting the enemys, how is that differnt from any other fps? because it has differnt elements mixed in with it.. oh boy. guess we better put it in a catagory all its own. lacks action? from what i seen it has just as much action as any other fps.

yanno what? i dont think mario is a platformer. i think from now on its going to be a platform water squirter, cuz yanno. other platforms dont have water squirters.

...

instead of trying to complicate things, making tons of catagories to seperate things from one another, adding on more and more catagories. why not just call them for what they are? platformer, fps, sim, sports, etc. Why must there be new catagories made up? i mean seriously... FPA ?

you know what's funny... IT STILL WOULDN'T BE CLASSIFIED AS A FIRST PERSON SHOOTER

Walk yourself over to www.nintendo.com and look what genre it's listed as... yes... Adventure... it's an Adventure game so no matter what you call the genre it's an Adventure... and the game is in first person... is it not?

That's where the name FPA came into play... it's NOT a FPS... it's an Adventure game (www.nintendo.com) that is in first person.

so check for yourself, then know your role

I thought i mentioned this in like the first part of this argument. I said they were calling it something differnt to get people OFF THIER BACKS. cuz people were complaining.

They're making the game, they could call it a freaking sports game if they want. If metroid had no guns, and he WASNT walking around not trying to hunt down enemys id see your point. thing is the thing that has ALWAYS classified a FPS, were 2 thigns. first person. and shooter. i mean its in the name. im not arguing what its being named by nintendo. your dead on there, always have been, I'm arguing whether its right to call it that. and from what i seen its not. I see an adventure in Halo, i see an adventure in many other FPS, doesnt mean they're not FPS.


And to be honest, i COULD live with it being called adventure, (still wouldnt think its correct) but i dont like FPA, making a new catagory or name for the style when the style seems to be nothing we havnt seen before. it may have orriginal cocepts. may be a kick ass game. who knows.

And hell, EGM lists it as an Action game.


*shrug*


(sorry bout the double post)

People weren't complaining, they were confused. It is an Adventure game just in 3rd person... it doesn't have to be considerd a new genre, it's just an Adventure in 1st person.

like a 3rd person adventure... it doesn't need to be called a TPA because people already know it's an adventure game... any game in first person, guns or not, is assumed to be a FPS... but Metroid is not. Metroid is an Adventure game... that's in first person.

Samus's main goal is to hunt down and kill everything she sees? Every game on the market that isn't a puzzle game is a RPG, because you are playing the role of a person you take over. But does that mean everything should be called an RPG?

Do you know the difference between an Action and an Adventure game???

Metroid is an Adventure game, if you like it or not... the term FPA was used to explain what it is. It isn't a genre, the "A" in FPA is the genre, the "FP" is just the camera view. A FPS gets it's own genre because a "Shooter" uses those guns that you shoot at the screen with.

and Nintendo makes the game...

and as i stated, they can therefor call it whatever they like.


So if they call metroid a sports game? you just going to swallow it and agree with them?


When metroid first game out, they called it an FPS, straight from retro, the people who are REALLY making it.

people whined thier heads off, even here, or was it ndose? which ever it was at that time i remember people posting like Aw man, i dont want another FPS, theres already plenty of FPS, i want a real metroid game.

nintendo then came out and stated it was an adventure, ah well, just a coinsadence i guess.


And as i said. Adventure isnt as bad. at least its a real genre,


And im still not seeing where your pointing out the difference between this and other FPS. only diff i see you pointing out is nintendo says this and that.

Nintendo wouldn't call it a sports game because it isn't a sports game. They call it an Adventure game because it is an Adventure game. There can't be an "if they called it a sports game" because they didn't.

Nintendo has so many people pimping them in that office that wouldn't give any credit to retro.

I don't remember this at GT or Nintendose


FPA isn't a real genre, like I said in my last post... it's just like a MMORPG, the base of the game is an Adventure... it's just in first person... like the base of an MMORPG is an RPG, it's just Massive Multi-player online


Because you are blind?

The difference between this game and FPS is that this isn't a shooter... it's an Adventure. If a game is in first person (only part of the time), and a guy has a gun, it automatically makes it a FPS? I guess MGS2 is a FPS too then...

How about we have a quick break and then Round #2 will start in a few hours alright guys? That is unless you go on strike...

hey, i have an idea. lets spilt up every thing i wrote into little bits then try to pick it apart, hey that wont get annoying!




only really read the last line. soo.. Are YOU blind? you keep repeating the same thing over and over. son, what makes the game an adventure? you didnt answer it. all you said was ones and fps and ones and adventure.

gee thanks wally, i get it now. :rolleyes:

how is this not a shooter? got a gun, shoot enemys.

so it has a goal. what fps doesnt? halo isnt just running around killing random things. it has a goal. goldeneye, perfect dark. they all have goals.



I tell ya what. why dont ya just wait and play it when it comes out. cuz i garendamtee ya that all thro the game you will be feeling like your playin an fps, not an adventure. oh but wait. nintendo said so that it wasnt. oh my.

hehe. i figured we were on round 3 by now.

sides, im bored, wiating for people to get online so i can play them at nhl2002.

In order for it to be a FPS it has to be a shooter. Now call it whatever you will, but it isnt a shooter. You do shoot in it. But you also shoot in ED, and is not a shooter. Call it what you will, just not a shooter. Or something like a puzzle...you know...

FPA is its description, not a new genre that was created. FPS is classified under shooter. Consider FPA under adventure.

For god sake... Null, maybe if you actually played the demo at E3 you would understand why it isn't just an FPS...

The game isn't an out and out shooter, therwise the controlls would be different. In fact, Retro put auto aim into the game, now what 'real' FPS has auto-aim as standard without an option to turn it off?

Read the impressions from people who have played the game, they say it is reminiscent of the old metroid games, which meas adventure plays an important role in the game, even more so than shooting.

By your logic, Eternal darkness is the same genre as crash bandicoot, because they are both in 3rd person...:rolleyes:

i've read plenty of impressions about it. all talking about the ACTION in it.


now this is getting a bit differnt cuz Game in the middle of the argument changed what he was arguing about.

first he was dead set on FPA. then after visiting nintendos site he says just plain adventure.

I have no problem with adventure.

But if you dont think the game is a shooter your fooling yourself. What will be going thro your mind when your playing? surely not la la la, i'll skip over and do this puzzle, then back to do the other. no, its going to be SHOOT THAT GUY! kiLL HIM!@

I still don't get your argument. What's the difference between an adventure and a first person adventure? If the game was 2D, it would still have the shooting elements in it, but it's not a plain shooter is it? It's a mix of adventure and shooting, just like the MP will be.

You can't compare Halo to MP. First off the controlls for Halo are more geared towards out and out shooting. Retro have purposefully made the shooting element in Metroid simple, such as aleviatin the task of having to accurately aim, so that the player does not have to concentrate on just that. In Super Metroid, the only reason you would shoot and smaller enemies was to gain energy and ammo. If you had full energy and ammo, you could just avoid a confrontation.

There will be more adventure elements in Metroid than your standard FPS. Such as more jumping, going back and forth in previous areas, exploring areas for secret passages etc...

actually the argument never had a point besides that i just didnt like the term FPA. that was pretty much it.


the rest of it was cuz i was bored as hell. was at work. then wanted to play hockey online. but no one was around.

I would call it an FPA. It has FPS elements, but it also has the adventure side. You don't just go through a level shooting everything in sight like PD or Halo(somewhat I think:unsure: ). You have to take things and use them to get to another area. Like the grapple for example. But thats just my opinion. meh

If you dont like FPA, call is FPA/A (Action/Adventure in first person)

That should solve the problem.;)

Good example... here's a better one:

Null, if Mario Sunshine was in 1st person would it be a FPS because he shoots water? If Zelda was in 1st person would it be a FPS just because he shoots a slingshot and a Bow and Arrow? I think these would fall under FPA, because they are in first person, but obviously not shooters.

GameSpot.com

the 74MB preview video of Metroid Prime.


in it it says... And i quote...

"Nintendo is marketing this as kinda a First Person Adventure. But now that we've had a chance to play the game. its more of a First Person Shooter with a unique set of controls"


EXACTLY what i have been saying. you play this game you are not going to be thinking adventure, your going to be thinking shooter.

LOL you guys are like trying to categorize it here are my categories GOOD and BAD then all the games that are good go in the good section and all the games that are bad go in the bad section. See much simpler isnt it?? I'd say metroid is gonna go in the good section i believe everyone else has the same expectations for it?:burger:

I have to agree with TheGame (:eek: ).

From the impressions I've read, the game does indeed have shooter elements, and if the levels and goals were set up differently, it might be called an FPS. However, Matt Cassamassina said that you can go through entire sections of the game for the first time and never meet any enemies. More than that, the goal is just different. The focus in the game is on exploration and finding gadgets that help you get around. I don't recall Halo placing much emphasis on finding items that let you jump higher and having areas that you specifically could not reach unless you had those items.

I guess we'll never know until we get our grubby hands on the game, but I have the feeling that when I play it, I'm not going to be reminded of Halo.

I also agree with TheGame in that Metroid is not a Halo killer in any way. The comparison is just unfair. The IGNCube editors who keep comparing the two are crazy, but then again, they only do that because people keep writing letters asking for a comparison.

Maybe I'm going to be thinking "crap"... how do you know what I'm going to think? I have read the previews, and it doesn't sound like a FPS... period.

It may handle like a FPS, but the way the game is set up it isn't a FPS. like my previous example:

I could care less what Gamespot's or IGN's opinion is... mine is clear, it's an adventure game, Nintendo's is clear, it's an adventure game. Nuff said.

:eek:

I kinda like when you agree with me... makes my arguement stronger

*Reads Xantar's and Justin'spost*

They are.. agre..e.. agreeing...:eek:

*Faints*

people in gaming business.... who played the game... say FPS...


kid not wanting to be proven wrong, and bringing up pointless facts about other games, not knowing we're talking about THIS GAME, not other games. Says Adventure.


gee golly wally. i dunno. but im gunna have to listen to the person who's played the game.

thanks tho. ;)