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GameKinG 11-01-2002 12:09 AM

Both Gamecube & GBA Successor confirmed by Nintendo
 
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Nintendo is in the software business - to stay. Nintendo is in the handheld business - to stay. And Nintendo is most certainly in the home console business - to stay. Work is well underway on the successor technology to both Game Boy Advance and Nintendo GameCube.
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Source: Peter MacDougall -- speech transcript (PGC)

link

For those who dont know, hes a Nintendo Executive.

CrOnO_LiNk 11-01-2002 02:11 AM

So does that mean the Gamecube and GBA aren't Nintendo's final console?

GameMaster 11-01-2002 02:43 AM

That's correct. Did you think they were their final consoles? What led you to believe that?

Angrist 11-01-2002 10:14 AM

Some people... :rolleyes:

Nintendo once said something like 'we want to concentrate on software'. That doesn't mean they're nog doing hardware anymore.

Dyne 11-01-2002 01:22 PM

Saw this on IGN yesterday, I read the whole freaking speech. I only have one thing to say:

GO NINTENDO!

It's great to see that they finally have some AIM, and have announced it. I feel like kicking my Xbox..... =P

DeathsHand 11-01-2002 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Dyne
Saw this on IGN yesterday, I read the whole freaking speech. I only have one thing to say:

GO NINTENDO!

When Sony announced early on that they were planning for their next console, people had pretty much only one thing to say too:

BOO HOW COULD YOU BE WORKING ON A NEW SYSTEM ALREADY YOUR LATEST ONE IS STILL NEW BOO SONY BAD SONY BOOOOOO!

:sneaky:

CrOnO_LiNk 11-01-2002 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by GameMaster
That's correct. Did you think they were their final consoles? What led you to believe that?
I remember hearing some rumours... No harm done...

I just thought that because lately the whole gaming industry has been going crazy. Microsoft trying to buy out all developers, Square and Nintendo coming back together, the Rare deal, the GBA outselling the PS2, and many more. But yeah, this is real good news.

Ginkasa 11-01-2002 02:41 PM

*gasp* A moderator, double posting! You need to set a better example!

*nods*


I read the speech (most of it) at IGN as well. Pretty interesting.


*shrugs and walks away*

Crono 11-01-2002 03:29 PM

I heard rumours of a new GBA being in development...it was like an new type or something, I dunno. Interesting, I guess...

Angrist 11-01-2002 04:07 PM

Hmm that would really suck. The AGB hasn't had it's time yet. It's selling great and there are enough super games coming out for it. If they bring out a next one, ppl won't buy. Then you'll get 2 groups of users: AGB & AGB2. Developers will start making only games for the AGB2 and the chaos is complete.

Neo 11-01-2002 04:34 PM

That's good to hear. For a while it looked as though Nintendo might go 3rd party.

I don't think you need to worry about an AGB2 being released anytime soon. They're for sure just exploring their options right now.

Jason1 11-01-2002 05:32 PM

It felt really good to hear that...Nintendo has made some strange decisions in the past that we question...but this shows they are on track.

Perfect Stu 11-01-2002 08:15 PM

The sad thing is that if they release the system a year or so later than PS3 and XBox2 it's doomed already

CrOnO_LiNk 11-01-2002 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
The sad thing is that if they release the system a year or so later than PS3 and XBox2 it's doomed already
To be honest, I think PS3 won't sell better than PS2 in America... Unless Square and EA continue their redeam.

TheGame 11-02-2002 12:35 AM

Let's see, Ps2 sold more than GCN, at a higher price point, with hard development, and a "crappy" list of first party developers.

Anybody who sais Ps3 will do remotly bad is talking out of thier "butt" ;)

Ps2 was Sony's last chance to fail, it has everything wrong with it. Price, Power, and development... all three work against Ps2, and Ps2 is kicking the hell out of the more powerful, lower priced, and more developer friendly consoles.

Nintendo has yet to make progress sense SNES.

MS... well, they are keeping up with Nintendo as a newbie, that probably do have a big future.

Stu is 100% correct, it Nintendo doesn't have a head start next time, it could be deadly.

Joeiss 11-02-2002 09:07 AM

I think that the N64 was amazing... Oh well... Lol.


And yeah... I wonder when all of the next gen consoles will be released... It would be cool if they were released all on the same day..... Why? Because then we could truly see who has the best start in competition.

And..... I hope that Nintendo goes back to cartridges! YEAH! That would be great.

;)

Jonbo298 11-02-2002 01:04 PM

What was said in this has completely backfired the "Q-Man" in this months EGM rumour section. They are trying to say that Nintendo might follow with other former 2nd parties and leave. i just busted up laughing after reading that. And I hope the next-next(?) generation console from Nintendo has an ORIGINAL Name!! Gawd. PS3 and XBox2 are soo friggin lame. But IMO, Nintendo isn't just gonna quit. They have too much of a fanbase to just quit on. Like me:D:D

Joeiss 11-02-2002 01:46 PM

Nobody said yet that the next Playstation or Xbox consoles would be called PS3 and Xbox2, respectively. I don't know what you're smoking.

TheGame 11-02-2002 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Joeiss
And yeah... I wonder when all of the next gen consoles will be released... It would be cool if they were released all on the same day..... Why? Because then we could truly see who has the best start in competition.
I hope not... cause I could only see Sony winning that war.. hell, I could only see Sony winning any war.:D ;)

GameKinG 11-02-2002 02:53 PM

The only way PS3 will do worse is if people see the faults of PS2, which The Game has already stated. Now, I think its safe to say that PS2 sold well based on PSX, because the launch well, lets face it, not the best games. So unless the PS2 does bad in its last 3 years (mind you GTA:VC is not helping the competition), PS2 will give the same amount of hype.

Unless they REALLY screw up PS3.

Perfect Stu 11-02-2002 03:03 PM

Crono_Link, if you're not going to elaborate on your comment I'll just assume you're talking out of your ass

'PS3' is rumoured to be powered by the 'Cell' technology, which has been in heavy development for years already. And now with rumours of Sony using their own disc called the 'Blu Ray Disc' which holds about 9 times as much space as a DVD with full out DD5.1 sound, things are sounding better.

I don't see any negatives regarding the upcoming Sony console. I mean, the success of the PS2 has already forced Microsoft to cut the lifespan of the XBox shorter than they would like and to release 'XBox2' before or at the same time as 'PS3'.

CrOnO_LiNk 11-02-2002 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
Crono_Link, if you're not going to elaborate on your comment I'll just assume you're talking out of your ass

'PS3' is rumoured to be powered by the 'Cell' technology, which has been in heavy development for years already. And now with rumours of Sony using their own disc called the 'Blu Ray Disc' which holds about 9 times as much space as a DVD with full out DD5.1 sound, things are sounding better.

I don't see any negatives regarding the upcoming Sony console. I mean, the success of the PS2 has already forced Microsoft to cut the lifespan of the XBox shorter than they would like and to release 'XBox2' before or at the same time as 'PS3'.

Calm down guys. I just said I think it won't sell better than Playstation 2. It was just a guess. {PS3 will be awesome and I know it'll be a million times better than PS2 but PS2 was the only new generation console at its time. My guess is that if GC, Xbox, and PS2 all came out the same time, PS2 wouldn't be dominating the gaming industry. Around where I live, all my friends have a PS2 just because everyone was dying for it back then... The only one game they have is an NBA game which they never really play.

When I said I think it won't sell better, I was talking about the gamers I know of. These guys just bought a PS2 just because of the DVD player and for one sport game. My friends are pretty smart but when it comes to gaming, they're the biggest dumbasses ever. So now they don't even touch their PS2's and knowing that, I am sure they won't buy a PS3.

What I am trying to say is that PS2 sold well because so many non-gamers bought it and aren't even touching it right now. I am glad Sony is doing well and I really like the company Sony, but many people don't buy a PS2 for the games... Do you know what I am getting to? If you don't then I am sorry I am explaining this in a gay way but I am certain that the people who don't ever play their PS2 will not buy a PS3 unless it turns out to be like a super computer type of new technology thing...

Mediocre 11-02-2002 10:39 PM

That is good

Joeiss 11-02-2002 11:43 PM

I am pretty sure most of the people who you claim have not used their PS2's since the beginning are probably playing GTA: VC right now.

;)


And..... I wonder if Nintendo's next console will use regular DVD format, rather than the mini-disks.... I think that this will be better, you know, for the extra space and such.

And it would be sweet if the next GameBoy used the mini-disks... Now that would be amazing.

GameKinG 11-03-2002 12:23 AM

Maybe they will develop a high-capacity mini-disc. That way we have backward compatiblity.

CrOnO_LiNk 11-03-2002 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by Joeiss
I am pretty sure most of the people who you claim have not used their PS2's since the beginning are probably playing GTA: VC right now.

;)

Not the people I know.

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Originally posted by GameKinG
Maybe they will develop a high-capacity mini-disc. That way we have backward compatiblity.
That's a good idea.

Angrist 11-03-2002 08:04 AM

We could have backward compatibility if they discs were bigger...

What if Panasonic develops something not-disc? Something not-rotating? Like a crystal cube, with the information stored in 3D?
I think I've heard something about such a system.

fingersman 11-03-2002 10:41 AM

If Nintendo wants to realease their system the sametime as Sony ( which sorta makes sense)...they better have it backward compatible or it might piss of alot of people, who thought the Cube would stick around for 6 years or so........I think Shiggy said something around those lines about the Cube.....that Nintendo plaaned to support beyond the normal console lifespan.

Joeiss 11-03-2002 12:54 PM

Oh yeah.... I remember that... But I really do not think that people will mind getting a new Nintendo system as long as : the graphics are immensely better (duh, all new systems are), and a Mario game is released at launch time!!!!

GameKinG 11-03-2002 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Angrist
We could have backward compatibility if they discs were bigger...

What if Panasonic develops something not-disc? Something not-rotating? Like a crystal cube, with the information stored in 3D?
I think I've heard something about such a system.

I told you not to go into jamacian shops.

bobcat 11-03-2002 04:10 PM

The Ps2 was always going to have the most hardware sales, no matter how many things it did wrong with the hardware. Why? It all dates back to the N64 and Psx days.

Sony struck a gold mine with the Psx, and now they sit comfortably for the next couple of generations of consoles (including the Ps3 me thinx). Because they have won the consumers trust in a console that has the most varied and high quality games.

With so many people buying a Psx, naturally the Ps2 is going to sell, especially considering it has a DVD player installed (which was highly on demand at the release of the Ps2). Which makes me think if the Ps3 is going to come built with a DVD burner :unsure:

It's a no brainer. The Xbox and GC will never catch up to the Ps2's sales. But each console does have its good/bad points. Which is why I bought all 3. So as a gamer I can choose which games I want.

TheGame 11-03-2002 04:13 PM

If GCN can't break 20 Milltion world wide in sales, Nintendo should stop making consoles. If they do break it and still lose to Xbox, they should stop making consoles. If they break 20 and beat Xbox They better release the most kick as system ever before they even imagine competing with Sony.

The thing that sucks is Nintendo is as good as dead because they are a video game ONLY company and can only afford so much.

I mean, Sony and MS could take a $200+ loss on ever Xbox/Ps2 sold at launch, and wait years to break even. While Nintendo could do the same, but they can't risk it because if GCN were to flop with a $200 loss on every console the company "Nintendo" would be dead... while "Microsoft" and "Sony" consider Video games one of thier lowest priorities. (I think it's coming up on Sony's list, but to M$ it's just a way to waste billtions to make billions)

This is why I think Nintendo should wait on next generation and release the console a year later than the competition.

I mean, if M$, Sony, AND Nintendo launched at the same time Nintendo would be raped. Nintendo would have the smallest advertizing campaing... and the highest priced hardware. (if not highes priced, lowest in quality because they can't afford to dress up a $500 system in $300 like M$ and Sony)

If they wait a year, they can get that advantage they had with N64 that Microsoft stole this generation. "Power"

(I think if it wasn't for N64's power advantage over Psx, N64 would have flopped.)

But who knows... maybe Nintendo has a good chance of regaining the crown. Maybe not. All I know is, with all the hype of the "Nintendo Dolphin" and how "N" fanboys were praising it from the start, and also how they would act like it can murder Ps2 and Xbox.... I would have thought this generation GCN had a great chance.

GameKinG 11-03-2002 04:48 PM

You would be suprised what Nintendo could afford. Unless it was $30 Billion.

Joeiss 11-03-2002 04:54 PM

Nintendo can afford jack squat compared to Sony and MicroSoft.

GameKinG 11-03-2002 05:54 PM

I didnt say they could afford as much. But sony and MS dont normaly make purchases that are also out of Nintendo's reach.

Besides, they are still more successful in THIS industry.

Joeiss 11-03-2002 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by GameKinG
I didnt say they could afford as much. But sony and MS dont normaly make purchases that are also out of Nintendo's reach.
That is only because they do not have to. Nintendo usually opts out in the buying process, so MS or Sony purchase something that Nintendo could, but didn't.

GameKinG 11-03-2002 06:54 PM

How did this convo even turn into a networth chat.

Lets keep on topic:

Both Gamecube & GBA Successor confirmed by Nintendo

Bond 11-03-2002 07:58 PM

1. If this was a money war in the videogame industry Microsoft would have already won. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Bill Gate's net worth is slightly more than Sony. Nintendo can not fairly compete with Microsoft, or even Sony money wise.

2. Successors to the GameCube and GBA are nothing to get excited about, successors to the PS2 and Xbox have already been announced. I don't see why anyone would be jumping up and down.

GameKinG 11-03-2002 10:14 PM

Because of the people who said Nintendo cant afford to move to the next genration, and they just cant make it in the console industry. Therefore Nintendo = Third Party...

Angrist 11-04-2002 07:05 AM

Perhaps they should make 1 uber-console. That would be the best solution. No more competition, but the powers of all companies combined.

Nintendo's controller with M$'s console power with Nintendo's games with PS2 popularity & game diversity. :D

I hate the competition. "PS2 is much better because it has cooler games!" "Well, I like the games Nintendo makes!!" "You suck!"
And besides, it's getting harder to play multiplayer games because everybody has different consoles (and thus different controllers). :(


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