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Re: A Little Perspective in Iraq
Old 05-12-2004, 07:43 PM   #8
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Are you kidding me? Did you even do any research into the story of the guy who was beheaded? He volunteered his expertise because he felt he could go over there and help rebuild Iraq after the conventional war was over. But instead of actually basing any of your opinions on facts you'd rather create your own fiction and attempt to stain the memory of these people who put their lives on the line EVERY DAY to rebuild a nation for people who are trying to KILL THEM. You sentiments and uneducated and disgust me. If you actually are even attempting to defend the people who lopped off that poor man's head in the slightest, you are a horrific human being and deserve to be drug into the street and beaten publicly. That would make you worse than the scum that spit on soldiers when they came back from Vietnam.
See, now talk about ignorance. They're trying to rebuild a nation that we blew the piss out of, that was in a sorry state already because United States greed put an evil man in power. I know he was an independent worker, but that makes absolutely zero difference to the Iraqi people. We've given the Iraqi's plenty of reasons to want to kill us, and even though we know exactly what pisses of Arabs most, we continue to do it because we're greedy. You were right in the other thread about Islam and the west not exactly mixing, but why do you insist on trying to change them simply because we have the military might to do so. Let them be. Our society is as backwards to them as theirs is to us.

This country can't swallow its pride ever. EVER. That's what pisses off the rest of the world the most. We knew that Saddam was evil, and we gave him WMDs anyway. Why wasn't that conservative led US government concerned with Iraq's liberation? If we would have admitted some past ****ups maybe we could have gotten a LARGE international force together and put some pressure on Saddam, then, when he still refused to back down, the rest of the world would have said "Ok, go get him, then when you're done, we'll help you pick up the pieces."

And though the majority of my comments about the old men that put this war together being war hungry hawks who just wanted to “play with their toys in the sand” were meant as tongue in cheek inflammatory, I’m beginning to wonder. Go read the article on Rumsfeld this week in Newsweek, or, better yet, look at the violence in Iraq. It’s much lower in UK controlled areas, The sections of falujia (**** the spelling, you know what I mean) that are controlled by the Brits are less hostile because the British aren’t as arrogant. They let the Iraqi’s have their space.

Hate breeds hate, and it really seems that the higher ups in the United States military have a supreme hatred and bloodlust. We built this Nintendo army and they’ve just got to use it. No one should be surprised at the pictures that have been released this week. Unless you’re drunk, or insane, there’s a certain paradigm shift that every human must undergo before they are able to intentionally kill another human, it’s a horrid thing, and these people celebrate it. That is truly disgusting.

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Ever notice that liberals always care about the humanity of everyone else exept their own American people? I find that disturbing.
Ever notice how conservatives always place more value on the lives of Americans and American allies. We're cared for already. "God Bless America" what a joke. If there is a God, she has already blessed America more than any other country in the entire world.

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You also keep saying how the US and its companies are THIEVES (not THEAVES). Please back that up with one shred of evidence of how companies brought over by the US or the US itself has stolen one ounce of oil or land from the Iraqi people. If this sounds like you've heard it before, its because you have. I ask for evidence whenever people accuse the US or its supported companies of stealing. Somehow no one can ever find it though
Well, since you're so worried about the United States, how about the fact that every single defense contract ever signed in the history of the United States is a ****ing joke. Forget about stealing from Iraqi's, how about stealing from Americans. $700 and some odd million over charged by Halliburton to the United States government (money which the United States will NEVER see because long time Dick Cheney bosom buddy Justice Antoine Scalia refuses to recluse himself from the case. This bull**** as well as similar bull**** has been going on for quite awhile.

I also love how Conservatives can be selectively naive. Guess what, if Democrats were bombing Iraq, they'd be stealing too, and that would be DEAD WRONG. The fact that liberals would do the same ****ing thing doesn't make it write in my book (awful pun) and it shouldn't make it right to you either, because you know goddamn well that the Americans over there are profiting through any means necessary. Sources aren't needed to prove that the US is stealing
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