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Originally Posted by Joeiss

I never said God wrote the bible. I said proof of his existence is through the bible, because as you stated, the bible was written through diving intervention. Since the writers' words were inspired by God (which is what I believe) that proves to me that there is a God.

You're still not giving me any proof of that. Men could have written it uninpired.

We must believe in God's son Jesus to gain access to heaven. So are you saying that you believe there is a God? And of course He cares about us, he loves us because we are God's children.

I don't believe Jesus was the son of god. I'm not going to Heaven? Jesus would be pretty vain if he said we needed to acknowledge him to come to his eternal party.

You really do not have to be so rude, man. Like seriously. You must understand that I have my beliefs, and you have yours. Understand that I believe that the Bible is God's word, written by men. That is what I believe in, so please do not act like such a dick towards me. Grow up.

I'm just trying to get proof for your beliefs. Believing one sacred doctrine is terrible, especcially when people hand me pamphlets telling me to convert to their twisted beliefs. What if the Bible left something out? What should the law do then?

you believe the bible is symbolism, and I don't. Do you know what I want to get? I want to get why people don't understand that the Bible is not symbolism.

How was the earth created in two different ways? Maybe it was created twice. The bible contradicts itself many times because it is reworking the original beliefs. The Bible was not written all at once, so some things must have changed in the way of law and society, no?

Please provide me with some scientific examples that science has proven religion wrong, please.

Is the earth flat? I also forgot that the universe revolves around the earth. Sorry.

Again, that is your opinion, but I must say it is a pretty ignorant one. I am going to university to become an accountant, and I plan to get married, have beautiful kids and a successful career. Is that not making something out of my life?

So you're counting money. I thought the Bible said that money and greed go hand in hand? Surely such a religious man would be eager to sell all his posessions and live day by day. Oh wait, that's not convenient. I don't see yoiu giving the money you provide a greedy ISP to a poor, starving child, do I? A man once greater than me said;
"I'd like to become a Christian, but alas I have never met one." the true believers, I would hope you agree, are actually practicing their faith rather than preaching it. It's what I do every day.

From the SKEPTIC mailing list:

First, the Christian:
How do you know your god exists?
The Bible says so.
How do you know the Bible tells the truth?
I have faith.
What if the Bible is wrong and your god doesn't exist?
That's impossible.

Now the physicist:
How do you know charge comes in discrete packets?
When you do this thing with an oil drop and an electric field, it shows the discrete nature of charge.
How do you know that?
Here's the protocol. Try it out yourself if you wish.
What if the experiment is wrong, and charge is continuous?
That would be a great discovery.