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Re: American forces losing control in Iraq
Old 10-29-2004, 11:08 AM   #1
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Default Re: American forces losing control in Iraq

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand
Or maybe no, they don't want the guy who started attacking them to be re-elected, but hey, maybe not being in Iraq happens to be better for our country as well (not that the terrorists care about that part of the situation)...
Isolationist philosophies have never been good for our country or the world for that matter, going all the way back to WW2.

War is never fun. War is never something that you go into joyfully. And the new wars are not truly 100% winable (in a conventional sense) because they are cultural more than they are governmental.

What we are doing in Iraq is finishing the job that Richard the Lionheart should have finshed hundreds of years ago. This is a crusade, but not a religious one and not a cultural one. It is a crusade to pull the Middle East out of Medeival times.

Why do we have a right to do that? Because he culture that their leaders have created has been to create hatred towards the West and inspire fanaticism to take attention away from themselves. They claim cultural imperialism (which is self-inflicted by their own people I might add) and call us the great Satan while their leaders absorb 99% of the wealth, build mansions and live like gods walking the earth while their people live in third world conditions.

Yet they've convinced their people that we are at fault because we are "infidels".

Now its come back to bite their leaders in the ass. This hatred that they've cultivated has gone too far by attacking us on our own soil and now their leaders have to deal with us and we aren't negotiating. We are attempting to create democracy in the Middle East and that scares their leaders more than any number of smart bombs or machine guns. Why? Because it means an end to their life of totalitarianism and Allah ordained priveledge. Why do you think even Saudi Arabia was very much against us going into Iraq, even when Iraq was their biggest threat and was right next door?

Now I understand that many people aren't going to believe that this is a reason. They'll go as far as to say its all about the oil, which is rediculous for several reasons, the most obvious being the price of oil right now and the fact that we're the only advanced country in the world that does not purchase oil from Iran. But I can see how people would want to be against war, any type of war, especially when the goals are so new and untested. This isn't a guarantee and more than a handful of people died during it so I can see how people can become nervous.

The fact is this has to be done. Flat out. The future of the world depends on it. In the next 10-15 years Western Europe will be over 50% muslim/islamic and if democracy is not imbued into their culture it will begin tearing apart ours. Its already started in Canada. In a province ( I think it was a province) in Canada there was a law put to vote that would allow muslims to be tried in a separate court according to the laws set by the Koran. This cannot happen and would only be the first of many changes if it were ever to go through.

You may say that this is a pointless war with nothing but tragic, uneeded dead... I say this war could very well prevent a cultural world war in the next 50 years.
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