The rise of the middle class: You're splitting hairs and making a diseingenous argument. You say that the middle class is smaller than I claim, when what I claimed was that in the last 100 - 150 years it went from ZERO in even westernized nations to a considerable economic force, millions in number. Why would this powerful organization (NWO) allow any of this? Isn't the severe disparity of wealth across the globe that was in place for thousands of years more advantageous than a growing middle class in China and India and an established on in most Westernized nations? I ask again: HOW DOES THE CREATION OF A MIDDLE CLASS HELP THE CONSPIRATORS? After all, it happened under their watch, and since they are so powerful, either it was their idea, OR THEY FAILED.
Flouride and Creating Menatlly Crippled Populace:
1) It was against almost all eugenics proponents at the turn of the century, which is part of the conspiracy you claim, to promote the care and support of the mentally rertarded. They supported euthenasia. The holocaust started with one mentally retarded baby being killed. The idea of creating a mass of the mentally handicapped is counter to most documented history concerning eugenics. Here is some interesting opinion from the leaders of the movement, and notice the repeated use of the word "sterilization":
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffma...y/Eugenics.htm
2) Creating a mentally crippled populace doesn't help a conspiracy, it creates a populace that must be supported and is useless to a power elites goals. Have you ever noticed the resources needed to care for someone with autism? The skilled manpower? The money? Wow, maybe this is a part of a conspiracy to create more skilled middle class workers to care for them... whoops!
Once again: HOW DOES THIS HELP THEM? Thew elites need a compliant society, not one that can't function without aid.
Vitamin D: You asked how I included Vitmain D? YOU DID. In the post you made on Jan 1st. And on this point you seemed to ramble from Sunscreen to the dairy industry and I'm surprised cattle mutilations by Chupacabras didn't make it in there with the stream of consciousness word association you played in the entire section regarding sunscreen.
Also, if the argument is to create cancer, why did they go to such crazy ends to kill people by creating cancer in such expensive and complicated ways when disease created by malnutrition, poor healthcare and sanitary conditions is nnot only faster and cheaper but was commonplace a hundred years ago? Why allow anti-biotics to becomes cheap and mainstream? Why allow TOILETS to exist when people used to just throw chamber pots out in the street? Why allow for the creation of pesticides when these animals did more to spread death than anything in human history? Why allow medicare and Canadian healthcare systems that provide it for a minimal cost paid for by taxes by the very elites you claim are a part of this conspiracy?
Instead they invented sunscreen, which just happens to keep people FROM getting cancer, and they still put vitamin D as a supplement in Milk, which I'm sure you don't drink as it has nono-bots or some shit. Seth, you say you take a Vitamin D supplement, but what if they taint that with preservatives and binders as well. MAYBE YOU'RE ONE OF THE POD PEOPLE.... RUN!!
Vaccines: Way to back track. This is why having a discussion is so difficult with you. You quickly try and turn the suncreen discussion tot he dairy industry when that argument is discovered to lack any logical merit, and now you say you never said vaccines didn't save lives. This is a conceit.
1) Your argument is that part of the conspiracy is to reduce the population.
2) Vaccines are a part of the conspiracy in your own arguments.
Then you claim you never stated they don't save lives. So, either they are a part of the conspiracy and the conspracy has failed, or they haven't saved lives, which you already admit they have. So which one is it? If its to make a country of retards, please see my above reponse of how a society of mentally handicapped is against the eugenics/fabian movement and in the end would create a burden, not a boon, to any world power conspiracy. Either way, its bullshit.
And the reason why there are still traces of this preservative is for the same reason almost every candy bar states "may contain peanuts". Its the equipment, not the ingredients.
As for mercury, I agree thats its dangerous, so why did they allow this HUGE movement in the 50's and 60's to educate people about the dangers of mercury, a metal that children used to hold in their hands in science classes. If so many people touched it, why educate them on it when allowing to continue in the hat making (The Mad Hatter is based on this) and other proceses when allowing it to continue would serve them so much better?
But all of this brings us to our last section:
Evidence is hard to find No shit. This is a conspiracy that has run for hundreds of years, across generations, and there has never been a single document detailing it, not a single member of it that has defected (and lived!), and not a single shred of real evidence that ties any of the information you've posted together. Even with HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of true believers and reserachers desperately trying to prove the conspiracy and the two decades of information technology and flattened media access, NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO PROVE A DAMN THING. I wonder why that is?
Seth, all you've done is post various bits of history, selectively chosen, some junk and real science in close proximity to each other and said that its a conspiracy. I could continue with this discussion, but you've repeated this same trend three times now and there really is no point. I feel I've made my point sufficiently.
Many bad things have happened in the world, but the fact that they've happened doesn't mean that they're related, and you've done nothing to prove that the information you've posted (that which is valid) are anything more than unrelated incidences over hundreds of years with different individuals and political leaders involved. Your belief in this conspiracy is solely based on your own faith that it exists. It is a religion, and the really sad part is that it's a religion that assumes everyone is trying to screw you and good people are powerless before them.
Except for YOU though, as you're one of the few to see through all the logical arguments and lack of evidence to see the unseen TRUTH. Thats called narcissism, Seth.
And the reason why I suggested you not post any more of these ideas is because you're coming off a bit unhinged. You have to admit that your theories are not accepted by the majority of the populace on a serious level. They make a fun novel or movie, but when such fiction creeps into sopmeone's reality, it doesn't look good to say the least.