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Old 08-24-2002, 06:34 PM   #24
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Originally posted by yes_yes i am
i hate when ppl try to be smart about something they dont know squat about. but anyways
WHOA- stop RIGHT THERE. Before you even THINK of contemplating my knowledge of the music industry (since I myself am an artist), I'd suggest you'd visit the Bluff, Bowen Homes or Thomasville before you go any further on attempting to educate me on deep lyrics, or the lack thereof.
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1. his enunciation - its the one of the best , if not the best out of all the rappers out there. (u can understand him)
2. his creativity and ability to tell a story.
3. his dre produced beats
4. his lyrics are one of the best in the game.
1. Depends on what you are used to. In comparsion, Andre 3000, Nas, T-Rock the Rocafella, C-Lo-Goodie, and Pastor Troy (just a sample) have better enunciation in most syllabic chunks and emphasize the stronger choice words (AKA add-lib).
2. Once again I point to: Outkast, Goodie Mob, Jay-Z, Lil' Kim, Notorious B.I.G., T-Rock, Jatis, Deccade, and LL Cool-J.
3. This has no concern, as in this respect, every 2Pac, Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg, Daz Dillenger, and new NWA midi composition was written by Dr. Dre. I've heard better from DJ Sheats, Neptunes, Timbaland, and Swiss Beats on several occasions.
4. Agreed, but Eminem is NOT THE best- hell, even Busta Rhymes more commercial lyrics of recent are alot better in delivery and content than alot of Eminem's rants- although Eminem's are much more entertaining (containing humor).
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yes, some ppl have the same level of lyrical potential but that isnt enough. all those things and more are reasons why ppl like eminem.
And as I have pointed out in the list above, there are even more reasons why "ppl" like other artists.
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what does this have to do with white ppl not being allowed to listen or write rap music? do u know what your saying?
Did you listen to what I was saying? These were points brought out by the people conducting the interview; but I'm assuming you'd know that had you actually watched the entire presentation given in the link.
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rap = rhythmic articulate poetry. so basically he is saying if some white person were to write a poem and then read it to a rhythm ... that wouldnt be allowed? u cant ban someone from writing poetry and reading it.
As I was saying, that's what HE (Rev. Scott) said, not myself. Quit getting it twisted- I only agreed with the point he made about some political stances, not the main issue at hand.
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ok, what. u read a book that said rap was made by some guy and he said "this is for black people" yeah? and im pretty sure u didnt. how do u know that it wasnt a white person that first rapped? and im pretty sure the first time someone made a verse, or freestyled he didnt have a snare and a rhythm on him. maybe some guy wrote a poem and started saying it to a song.
Or maybe you are trying to discredit me by making a guess in comparision to an actual Black History documentary I have on the "essence of rap/hip-hop culture" (ever watch BET?). How amusing.
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i dont know.
Exactly. And further more...
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When was the last time you checked? maybe if u checked ever, ud know he did a song with kid rock. called f--- off and he had aerosmith on the chorus of a song on his new album.
Hmm...let's see- the last time I checked was in 2000, which was when Eminem first appeared in Rolling Stone. Let's see...no Kid Rock or Aerosmith at that point in time, which was the point. A song was eventually going to be made in this genre (with Fred Durst), but internal conflicts destroyed chances of that happening. And as far as Eminem holding his tongue back, what would truly prove Eminem as an artist would be an entire album w/o contriversial and violent topics- because right now, he isn't showing enough talent to pull that off (hell, 50-cent did 8 albums with the same content as Eminem, and it wouldn't even get radio play-besides "I'm gonna rob the industry".)...I myself believe Eminem CAN do it (to a certain extent), but like everthing else in the world, he has to prove it.
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lol and dont gimmie that "subliminal message crap. ud have to be pretty slow to not realize those messages. maybe if ur 12....
I definately agree- which is why Eminem can't compete in lyrical content to the likes of Common, Outkast, Biggie, T-Rock, Goodie Mob, Jay-Z (reasonable doubt era), Joe Buttons, etc. Ultra-deep content is the true karma of the artform, as how that's how it was originally intended to be- not a showcase for high school children.
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yea... if u take rap from whites. then take golf and baseball from blacks. and take basketball from whites. and then everything sucks.
Um, ok....
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yea probably. although 4 some reason eminem is getting flack for things other black ppl have said a million times b4.
You mean the same things that for some reason, do not warrant them an appearance on the cover of rolling stone? Or do you mean the same harsh topics that almost got rap banned in 1987 (anyone recall Too Short?)???
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whats your telephone number , adress, and full name.
No prank calls, but here's the full addy:

13 Bankhead Courts Apts
135 Bankhead Hwy
Atlanta, GA 30314

(p.s. make sure you stop by the Bluff before you get there )

Have fun on your trip down to GA, folk.

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o and i don only like eminem if that wut ur thinking.
no, what I'm thinking is you have no clue as to what the music industry as a whole entails, let alone deep lyric writing and critique.

*sheathes katana*

*vanishes into the day*

-.....???

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