[BigJustinW]

Originally posted by Xantar
Well, PureEvil did a pretty good job summing up my own thoughts (which means he understands my post or has a telepathic link to my head...). I just want to make one more point.

A logical reason for not believing in God? I don't think there is any such reason any more there is a logical reason for believing in God.

So you admit you don't have a logical reason for not believeing in god...

My logic comes by personal experiece, somthing that nobody who doesn't take any steps can have.

I live life through MY eyes... use magic as an example. If you say the magic words over and over and over, the same thing happens over and over and over, and there is no scientific explination for it, it just happens, and you see it. Would you believe in that form of magic?

My belief has never failed me, so why should I stop believeing?

It may not be logical to you, but it has more than enough logic for me, because I've seen results with my own eyes.

How does this relate to creation? Simple, it's in the same book that has improved my life.

So once again, what personal experiences and/or things you know make you believe that God doesn't exist?

Now, before you jump on me, let me explain. You may think God's existence makes sense, and that's fine. It's not the same thing as having a logical reason for believing in God. Doesn't belief in God imply a little bit of faith in something you can't really see and experiment on?

I can experiment as much as I want... through prayer... (of course you won't accept this answer)

Here's a surprise for you: atheism has a little bit of faith too. I believe that the answers to all the questions BigJustinW raised can be stated without the involvement of God. As Justin already pointed out, nobody knows how the universe got started. As I have pointed out, there was a time when nobody knew why things fall. Just because we don't know it now doesn't mean it's not out there. I believe that with enough time we will develop a theory for the creation of the universe just as we developed a theory of gravity. Why do I believe this? There's no logical reason for it. It just makes sense to me. That's what some people would call faith.

Before the theory of gravity, what did people believe?

That there is a big magnet under there feet or somthing? lol

They just knew somthing, but they didn't want to find an explination for it. Religion is a form of attempting to find an explination for everything.

No, I don't go out of my way trying to find out everything I can about Christianity because figuring out the existence of God is not important to me. I don't want to sound insulting, but to me, Christianity has as much validity as the cult of Heaven's Gate. I don't go out of my way to find stuff about the beliefs of minor cults, and I apply the same standard to Christianity. Just because it has several hundred million followers doesn't make it any more worthwhile for me to read up on.

Do you know what Hell is? Do you want to go there? If not, what is there to lose from trying to learn about christianity??? Or any religion for that matter???

Here's my personal list

What to lose by reading the Bible: A little time

What to gain: Saving yourself from an eternity in Hell

If you read it, comprehend it, and still don't believe it, then you can say that you don't believe... and have a LOGICAL REASON to back it up. Like: "I read it, I tried it, and I don't believe it, period"

As long as you don't give it a chance, you have everything to lose, and nothing to gain. It's not like scientists will have any answers in your life time anyway.