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Old 02-05-2002, 03:46 PM   #36
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True fact: there are is a cult that believes things like if people who look at the moon over their left shoulder will be damned eternally (yes, it's also a superstition, but there really is a small cult built around things like that). Should I go read up on the literature published by that cult in order to determine if what they say makes sense?

To me, Christianity and that cult share many of the same qualities and are both not worthwhile investigations for me. I have better things to do.

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I live life through MY eyes... use magic as an example. If you say the magic words over and over and over, the same thing happens over and over and over, and there is no scientific explination for it, it just happens, and you see it. Would you believe in that form of magic?
If I saw it, then perhaps I would. It depends on the magic.

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My belief has never failed me, so why should I stop believeing?
I never said you should. Believe it or not, I think it's great that you have such confidence in your beliefs. But I'm supposed to be the one on the spot here, so please don't start acting as if I'm attacking your religion.

And at any rate, my beliefs have never failed me, so why should I stop believing them?

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It may not be logical to you, but it has more than enough logic for me, because I've seen results with my own eyes.

How does this relate to creation? Simple, it's in the same book that has improved my life.
But you see, that doesn't work for me. If the Bible happens to contain something that's true, that doesn't mean the entire thing is true. That's not logic. The only way to logically prove that everything in the Bible is literally true is either to take each thing individually and prove it or prove the theory that it was written by God (or written by a man inspired by God). And since there is no way to prove the existence of God, there is no way to prove that the Bible was written/inspired by God.

Of course, there's no way to prove that it wasn't either—especially if you believe it was written by a fallible man. So if you believe in the Bible, by all means do so.

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So once again, what personal experiences and/or things you know make you believe that God doesn't exist?
Didn't I just make a 500-something word post explaning this? I don't believe what hasn't been proven to me, and as I've already explained, there is no way you or anyone else can prove to me that God exists.

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Before the theory of gravity, what did people believe?

That there is a big magnet under there feet or somthing? lol

They just knew somthing, but they didn't want to find an explination for it. Religion is a form of attempting to find an explination for everything.
Well, apply my logic to the situation. I say that someday, people will say, "Before the theory of the universe, what did people believe? That this all powerful, all knowing God created the universe or something?"

Religion may be a form of attempting to find an explanation for everything, but that doesn't make it any more valid in my eyes. Besides, not all religions are like that.
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