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"Keep in mind that there are other elements besides Carbon that scientists use to date fossils. Carbon is just the most commonly used."

Well actually no... carbon 14 is hardly ever used to date fossils. They are just too old - carbon 14 only works well up to about 15 to 20,000 years, and most fossils are several million years old at the very least... I have on in frony of me from the Devonian period... that's at least 365 million years old.

"Theorys aren't facts, period.
Estimations aren't facts, period."

Who said they were? A theory is not a fact. A scientific example:

The law of gravity shows that objects move toward objects of greater mass (this is a gross simplification, but it would take ages to explain).
The theory of gravitation says that this is due to mass exerting a force called gravity. This theory does not work for very small or very large masses (or very small distances); this is why quantum physics was developed: to explain the holes in the theory of gravitation.

We have no proof that gravitation actually exists. We just have a theory (or rather, a group of theories) which explain the whole thing perfectly on everything of a normal scale (they still haven't quantified all of quantum mechanics yet).

Yet you seem to think that just because there is the slightest bit of doubt that a theory which has managed to satisfactorily explain more than half the universe is not true, then it MUST be due to a god. Fine, you're entitled to believe this; personally, I just can't accept that kind of a lapse of logical thinking.

"call me willfully blind all you want, NOBODY knows what the earth was like Pre-Humans"

So I suppose that we can't infer anything at all from the rocks then? Like the presence of fish meaning that water existed? Like the presence of cyanobacteria in the Archean began to convert our methane/ammonia atmosphere into the one we have today? Why can't we say that the geological and palaeomagnetioc record shows that America was once part of a huge mega-continent at a different latitude and longitude than it is today? Why can't we then say that any fossils found at particular times must have lived in a prticular latitude and longitude x numbers of kilometres from the sea? Why can't we say that because its cold at the poles now it was cold at the poles then, and from that deduce exactly what kind of climate these fossils lived in?

So it's not the same as being there, but again you are making the same illogical assumption that because no-one living today has actually seen it, a completely different theory that it all just hapened cos some dude with a beard said it did MUST be true? How the heck does that happen?! Just because something isn't 100% explicable or demonstratable doesn't mean we have to go off and find a totally different explanation.

Besides, everything we know about the early earth fits together. We can see how the continents were joined, how they moved, where animals originated from... it's quite balletic really.

"until this science is studied for a million years, and the bones follow the exact same system, you can't make a valid estimation."

Then surely religion should follow the same rules, if you're going to be fair about it? We have been studying it for oooh lets be generous and say 150 years. Plate tectonics has only been around for 50. And we have already calculated the age of the earth and how it's continents and animals evolved, and have made several estimations which hey all fit together very nicely indeed. But you're saying these won't become valid in any way shape or form for another 999,800 years? Why is this?

Surely then you should only start believing in this christ dude in 998000 years? You know, when it becomes a valid estimate?

"The science is good enough now, in 1-10 million years study time, they can find an extremely accurate system, but finding the solution to this will take more time. I simply don't believe that it is even close to being accurate in it's current form."

So you say that because it's inaccurate by your seemingly ignorant standards now, it's going to take 10 million years? An entire civilisation can evolve from a single family of worms in that time. Why do you think science is only valid after hundreds of millenia of study? I'm not saying it won't all be proved wrong tomorrow, but it explains it all to me very nicely indeed.

"I can't change your personal views, because you have a different life from mine, if you lived in my brain, and knew every thought, maybe you would see things the same as me."

And if you had lived my life through my eyes is my brain, you would probably think the same as me. But you asked us to explain why various people like myself didn't believe in god... do you have your answer yet?

I for one just can't believe god exists because I see no evidence at all of him ever having had a hand in anything. Why worship something I can't see or feel or believe will ever give me any benefit whatsoever? There is no point for me. I have more useful things to do.