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oh for the love of Christ
Old 01-28-2003, 11:50 PM   #17
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"But when we become callused to making mistakes that create injustice, we need to evaulate ourselves and criticize ourselves for that."

I believe thats a definite reference to the injustice of the potential war in Iraq. Consider yourself cracked.
Sorry to rain on your bs parade. But the sentence "when we become callused to making mistakes that create injustice," has no implications or hidden meaning of a disdain of the war on Iraq. This is simply an assertion that states becoming used to or being able to condone injustice to create justice is a contradiction and a wrongdoing.

Looks to me like what you really need is a lesson in critical thinking. Your "proof", or lack thereof, of my reference to the injustice of the potential war on Iraq speaks volumes about itself. How does the sentence imply this? Jesus Christ, you didn't even bother explaining. Let's look at the sentence again:

"But when we become callused to making mistakes that create injustice, we need to evaulate ourselves and criticize ourselves for that."

Maybe the war on Iraq creates injustice, maybe it doesn't. I don't know for sure. But my personal stance on the subject is that through the information given thus far, it wouldn't be. But if the war on Iraq makes for injustices, well then, it should be criticized. No phenomenon should be exempt from criticism just because of the fact that we have suffered a huge injustice. This is my point. Maybe war on Iraq is or isn't a mistake. I don't know. But if it produces injustice, it should rightly be criticized.

So no, I won't consider myself cracked. But keep hope alive!

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Oh and thanks for the amatuer analyses of my "ultranationalism"
Anytime, tiger.

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As for the other countries that helped us out through our international efforts, do you think the international efforts would have even gotten underway without US support.
I don't know. Do you? Are you able to somehow foresee the future now? Social phenomena are rarely clear-cut equations. It's hard to make a calculation that would do them justice. In some situations, they are clear-cut. In others, they're not.

But I believe your generalization was that "other countries do nothing." Well, clearly you have just admitted that your generalization is false, no?

- "other countries do nothing"
- "do you think the international efforts would have even gotten underway without US support"

Contradictions, contradictions.

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You see, you don't rattle me, playa. You carefully word your opinions so that they imply much while not actually taking a stand on anything. While you may consider that smart, I consider it cowardice.
Implications depend on interpretations. I can't do much in helping what you think I mean besides clarifying - which I've done about 209387356 times now. So believe what you want. But extrapolating that I disdain a possible war on Iraq to be an injustice from my original point is quite the leap of faith. So because of this haphazard interpretation of my point, you regard me as an unpatriotic coward?

Hold on, let me give this a whirl too:

"You see, you don't rattle me, playa."

Dammit. You think I'm an egotistical asshole. So you must be a cynic. Cynics are usually like bitter and stuff. So you must be like bitter and stuff too.

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Now am I overzealous?
You give a new meaning to the word. I don't like Anti-American sentiments either. But there is a profound difference between criticism with its intent based on betterment and pure hatespeech. I think my posts belong in the former. You think they belong in the latter.
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