[LeonMagnolis]

The Bible is a book about morals. Funny, because a lot of the stuff in the bible is made up. Garden of Eden... doesn't exist. Nice story until we got satellites and looked all over Egypt. It ain't there. Oh ya, and Apples can't grow in that region, so don't think they ate from an Apple tree. How do people still believe in it? They say if God doesn't want you to find it, you won't. Seems to me that ran out of answers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the Bible, wasn't there also a flood? Could a worldwide flood possably destroy small parts of the world? Could that be where eden went? Maybe the satellites overlooked it because it doesn't exist anymore.

Apples? Where did you get that idea? Where in the Bible does it say that Adam and Eve ate the "apples" of good and evil. I must have missed that when I read through the creation story fifteen seconds ago so do tell.

And for posts like this one, please know what you're talking about before opening your mouth.

One example is how they God can forgive any sin. Then they go on to say some sins God can't forgive, and you will go to hell.

I've never heard my church say that God can forgive any sin, but there has been alot of debate about this. But try and remember that these are people saying this, and people are wrong-- more often then not sometimes. I don't trust everything that every scientist says, and you shouldn't trust everything that every pastor says. The best thing to do would be to read the Bible looking for where it says God can forgive any sin and make your own conclusion.

About the sin that couldn't be forgiven-- this was Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I honestly forget the referance right now, but I'll look it up later. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit happened when someone saw Jesus in the flesh, knew who he was, had seen his testimony, and realized beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was who he said he was, and still attributed his works to Satan. So technically, that sin cannot be committed at this time. I believe, though, that all other sins-- no matter how horrable-- can be forgiven.

That's not true... God forgives when you ask for forgiveness, there is only one case in which God can't forgive you, when you kill yourself, because you can't ask for forgiveness after you are already dead, can you?

If someone broke into my house with a knife and held it to my throat, and I pulled out my gun and shot him dead on the spot, he cannot be sorry and he cannot ask for forgiveness. But you still can forgive him (for whatever good it'll do). We don't have to ask for God's forgiveness to get it. Otherwise, we'd all be going to hell because we can't remember every sin we've ever commited.

Or maybe I would die and find out there's no afterlife (although I don't know how that would happen when I would be dead'n'gone) and it turns out that I wasted my life (or at least some of it) reading the bible, going to church, etc etc?

If you're dead, would you really care? :: Raises an eyebrow. ::

I would still like an answer to my three-legged gerbil question. Humans are the worst creatures on this planet so why do they live after they die and other animals don't?

What makes you think that humans are the worst creatures around? How many cats developed science? How many dolphins have written shakespear? How many termites can say that they've ever made a concious choice? What makes you think that we're the worst?


Justin-- about your next post-- let me just say, no. God doesn't require that we ask forgiveness for sins to get into heaven.

If you are baptized, you get the chance, if not, you burn.

Matthew 3:11 "'I baptize you with water for repentance . But after me will come one who is more powerful then I, whose sandles I am not fit to cary. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."' (The fire is symbolic of the future judgement incase anyone is wondering.)

At this time, baptism became a symbol. It is not neccisary for salvation and is a declaration of your faith-- nothing more.

Why don't you wake up early every Saturday, go into your back yard, hold a block of cheddar above your head and walk in a circle for an hour and a half? you don't know if it'll get you into heaven, but it could, therefore you should do it right?

What a stupid question. That would be a waste of cheddar!!!

I find it odd that instead of explicitly describing scaly reptiles ten feet tall who tore people limb from limb it only makes a few exceedingly vague inferences that anyone could dig up if they were eager enough to find them.

Read Job and tell me how vague the descriptions of the bohemoth and the leviathan are.

Like the earth being 6000 years old for instance.

I've heard that question so many times it's not even funny. Assuming that God is real and he created the universe, how would he create it? I would think he would give it some sort of age. Adam and Eve were not created as babies, the animals as cubs/eggs, and the trees as seeds. If that were the case, then everything would have died save a few termites who would have gone on to write Shakespear. God would have had to add age to the earth-- so why not the rest of the universe? I don't expect anyone to accept this, but assuming that there was a God, then it would make sense that he woudl add age to what he made, wouldn't it?

So do I if you leave out the christ bit

Well I'm happy to see that you acknowledge that he existed no matter what his diety was. And don't take this as condesending in any way please. I just see people who deny the existance of Jesus, Christ or not, alltogether and it's-- refreshing to see someone who's not that nieve.

Even if I could believe in a god, the atrocities that he lets humans commit would lead me to believe he was not worth worshipping.

Realize that God isn't a babysitter. It's not his responsibility to control us. Granted He'll intervene once in a while, but it's not His job to control us as I said before.