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Old 02-09-2002, 04:52 PM   #15
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Does Iran, Iraq or North Korea have nukes?

And Bush is an idiot. I am not sure why he wants to take on all of this terrorist thing by himself. I think it should be a United Nations thing to stop terrorism, not an American led thing where Bush makes all the decisions.
Bush doesn't quite realize terrorists are there because they don't like American culture. As long as we don't change our culture, people won't like us. You can't kill off everyone who has a grudge against the US. Al Qaeda was responsible for a few things before we ever got the 9/11. And yes, that was a big deal. Shut them down the best you can, and then try to get the countries to stop terrorism in their country. We can't fight a war with every country we feel might have terrorists. We've lost men in Afghanistan fighting them, and we've lost men in Somalia fighting them. If we go to N. Korea, Iran, and Iraq, we'll lose even more men. You get to a point where it's not worth it. More soldiers will die trying to stop terrorism than the terrorist attacks will kill.

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I agree that he's doing stupid stuff, and I don't see why he has such a high approval rating... Oh wait, yeah I do, everybody has this "yay go america" mood, so it makes Bush so amazingly good when we attack back after such a major terrorist attack
That's why I compared him to Hitler. After WWI, Germany was being screwed over. Hitler wasn't happy because they made all Germans look like ****. He turned his country around, told everyone how great Germans were. He preached nationalism, and that's what Bush is doing right now. In reality, he's not doing that great of job. But he'll tell you how great it is to be an American, and how the free world will conquer terrorism.

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Does anyone else think the government is pushing this whole patriotism thing a little too much? I mean the flag from the WTC being raised at the Olympics was a nice gesture and all, but don't you think it's beginning to be a bit too much now? Don't get me wrong, being patriotic towards your country is a great thing, but.....do you get what I mean?
It was too much. That, and that's against flag rules. The flag looked like ****. It's a flag, not a rag. Make the thing look nice! I want to see the flag flying in the wind, not pieces of it flying, and big holes in it. I personally felt it was a disgrace to this country to use that flag.

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Maybe that's why gekko calls all that patriotism fake (at least I think he called it fake) because it pops up when it's convenient or whatever you wanna say
Exactly why I call it fake. Before that we had people bitching about the things in the country. No one was flying the flag. No one said "yay, I'm an American!" Then one day terrorists strike. Still nothing but a shock. A few people fly the flag, most still don't care. Then Bush goes on and preaches nationalism, and within the next few days there are flags flying everywhere. Then everyone thinks they're all patriotic because they fly the flag. Like hell they're patriotic! Before that, they didn't give a ****. They could care less about the flag. Veterans Day to them is just a day to take off of work. They don't give a **** about the men who served under the flag. Then, when they feel it's convinient, they're all of a sudden patriots. Our military has been risking their lives every day, but until we go to war, no one cares. Firefighters put their life on the line all the time, but they never cared. It's like we'll be patriotic when the time is right, and after that we'll start bitching about stupid things again. Our society doesn't teach patriotism, and we're not patriotic. Give it 10 years, no one will own a flag anymore.

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sorry, folks. we don't have a dictatorship. i think it's sad that you compare bush to hitler. HITLER! he's not trying to annihilate an entire race, or take over the planet. he's a conservative president who is going to follow his views that we should protect america at all costs, and perhaps, AMERICA BEING THE SUPERPOWER, we need to take steps to prevent terrorist actions in other nations as well as our own.
It's really sad they teach you so little about Hitler.
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