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Originally Posted by GiMpY-wAnNaBe
i'm nt to sure about the russain tanks being superior, i rmeember reading that the Germans were much mroe prepared and advanced in military fasions, mainly because as soon as hitler came in power he started the training of 10 year olds and such to prep them for war, and then when they became older they were all gung ho and stuff, not only that, germany also had a lot more time to prepare (before they made an alliance with USSR), in the end it was Hitler being stupid that brought the downfall of the Nazis, because he decided to turn on Russia
ANYWAYS, BACK ON TOPIC!!!
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The Soviet T-34 tank WAS
THE best tank in World War II.
"Since Ukraine was the center of heavy industry in the USSR in the 1930s it produced much of the armaments before the German invasion. One surprise Hitler's army encountered was the T-34 tank which was designed and built in Ukraine in the Kharkiv Tractor Factory. The German general von Runstedt called the T-34 the "best tank in the world" and von Kleist said it was the "finest in the world." The first Ukrainian T-34 tank, no. 1, was tested by successfully driving it 1,000 miles from Kharkiv, Ukraine, to Moscow, Russia and back. The T-34 medium tank was superior to the German Panzer tanks because it had a more powerful cannon, a higher top speed (32 MPH to 25 for the Panzers), the armour was so superior that German shells bounced off it, superior welded construction invented by Academician Paton, and it had a wider track so it did not get bogged down in mud like the German Panzer. The Germans decided that the Ukrainian T-34 tank was so superior to the Panzer that they would have copied it but "Unfortunately for Germany this was not possible. German engineering technology was not up to it, many of the special alloys used in its construction were not available," states Andrew Kershaw in Weapons & War Machines (New York 1976) p. 192. (Incidentally, in 1995 the Ukrainian T-84 Tank being built in Kharkiv is again considered the best in the world.)"
http://www.infoukes.com/history/ww2/page-26.html
Built in Ukraine (and if you know anything about USSR, Ukraine was part of the USSR), and so the tank was used by the Soviets, and was ultimately superior to the Panzers. And of course Germany had more time to prepare for war. I don't think the Soviets were expecting a German invasion, but because of Hitler's hatred for Stalin, war between the two was unavoidable. USSR was communist, Hitler was fascist, war was almost certain.
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Originally Posted by Hero2
And the russians where in a down fall of there economy. that they still havent recoverd from
ps its when i care that ill give facts the other stuff i just like ****in with people and you should be ashamed if you actually take any of my posts to heart(except for the beaches the two that the americans took where the heart of the defence there and it was put togther by rommel you know the great leader of the forces in africa.
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World War II was actually the height of the Soviet Economy, thanks to Stalin's "5 year plan", which dramatically increased factory and industrial productions. The real collapse of the Soviet economy came in the 1980s, near the end of the Cold War.