In Westboro I was born and raised...

TheSlyMoogle · 04-13-2010, 08:02 PM

Protestin funerals is where I spent mosta my days.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_funeral_protests

Pretty much glad someone finally decided to fuck with those dicks.

What does everyone else think?

Honestly I think Westboro should probably stop for their own safety. I can't believe someone hasn't gone postal on their asses in the course of the past few years when they have dicked out.

Xantar · 04-13-2010, 10:24 PM

Getting into a court battle with the Westboro people is exactly what they want. They are professional agitators. They go out and picket events, shouting the most vile and disgusting things you could think of, and hope that somebody attacks them or does something for which they can sue. They are scum, they make a living off of being scum, and they don't care if everybody knows it. Unfortunately, the First Amendment says they can do it.

Just think of them as real life trolls. I don't know if they actually believe what they are saying, but the way to deal with them is much the same way. I'm a big fan of the college students who held a counter-protest (vastly outnumbering the Westboro people) at which they held up signs mocking the Westboro hate speech: stuff like, "God hates the new Facebook" or "God hates Justin Bieber." Ok, that second one might not be mockery; the student might actually believe it.

Vampyr · 04-13-2010, 10:32 PM

I think people should just wait until someone from the church dies, then hold a gay rights parade or something outside the funeral home.

Professor S · 04-13-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

I think people should just wait until someone from the church days, then hold a gay rights parade or something outside the funeral home.

I completely agree. Turnabout is fair game. Gay advocacy groups should protest every Sunday outside of their church and in front of their homes. Scum.

magus113 · 04-13-2010, 11:31 PM

I watched the BBC documentary about that church and I am honestly still amazed. Every single person they take into that retarded family of theirs is a waste of brain power and need to be thrown from the gene pool.

The Germanator · 04-13-2010, 11:34 PM

Yeah, I feel terrible for those kids born into that. I mean, they don't have much of a choice to be there and be indoctrinated to those kind of beliefs. It's a shame. I don't believe I can think of worse people on the planet than the Westboro people.

Typhoid · 04-14-2010, 01:22 AM

That's sickening.
I honestly don't understand the anti-gay pro-bible thing.

I mean, I highly doubt Jesus said "Blessed be everyone. May you all live as equals. Except fuckin' fags and women until you decide on your own accord to allow them to vote, oh, and I guess the meek can have some shit, too. But remember, kill the queers."

Professor S · 04-14-2010, 08:49 AM

There's also the whole "Judge not lest ye be judged" thing...

But the bible can't stop hateful people from intoning it for their own agendas.

Angrist · 04-14-2010, 08:49 AM

Except Jesus never said "Blessed be everyone." He did say "Come, be my follower" and "Teach them to observe all the things I have commanded you." It's not really a free-for-all deal.

If the Bible teaches that practizing homosexuality is wrong, stop whining about it. I don't fully get it, why desparately try to join a club that doesn't agree with the way you live?

Angrist · 04-14-2010, 11:35 AM

I don't think churches are judging. They're just holding onto standards that they find in the Bible.
Hmm, maybe some churches do. That's especially hard to swallow when they tolerate other recurring sins. I agree that it's very hypocritical.

Professor S · 04-14-2010, 11:43 AM

What is the logic in even making the statement that servicemen are dying because of gays? Were they dying during peace time when gay dude were cavorting? There is no sense to this. They are simply evil people.

KillerGremlin · 04-14-2010, 03:57 PM

I like where Angrist is coming from....

Why do we need to try to mold religion to fit our new, logical ways of thinking in society? Why not just ditch the religion part in our new, logical ways of thinking.

Typhoid · 04-14-2010, 07:22 PM

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If the Bible teaches that practizing homosexuality is wrong,

I don't think born-gay people are really practicing. I think they've pretty much got it down professionally.

And Angrist, I'm not adressing you with this, it's just in the same post for the record:

And just for shits, I'm going to say this about the bible and homosexuality:

Homosexuality has been around forever. The Romans and Greeks were highly open with sexuality, and often men would get with men to close business deals, or as favours, for lack of a better word.

Basically the only reason it's viewed as evil to be gay, is because homosexuality doesn't produce offspring. Which means gay people give nothing to the church, because they can't create more followers.

Angrist · 04-15-2010, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

Why do we need to try to mold religion to fit our new, logical ways of thinking in society? Why not just ditch the religion part in our new, logical ways of thinking.

Not sure if you were joking or if you really agree with me, but if you really believe in God, you'll probably believe that what he wants for us doesn't chance. If practicing homosexuality was wrong 2 millennia ago, it's wrong now.

And Typhoid, you're right. There's a difference between having feelings and practicing them.

Vampyr · 04-15-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrist

Not sure if you were joking or if you really agree with me, but if you really believe in God, you'll probably believe that what he wants for us doesn't chance. If practicing homosexuality was wrong 2 millennia ago, it's wrong now.

And Typhoid, you're right. There's a difference between having feelings and practicing them.

Didn't quite a lot change from the Old Testament to the New Testament?

And other things have changed from when the New Testament was written til now - it's no longer considered right or ethical to own slaves, for example.

I think every religious person ultimately ends up cherry picking the things they like and disregarding the things they don't. Religious homosexual people ignore the part that says it's wrong. Religious people who don't believe in slavery ignore that part. Everyone seems to ignore the book of Job.

Maybe 'ignore' isn't the right word, though. It's more like people want to gloss over the things they don't like, or just say "oh, it was a different time". But for some reason they can't let others do that to the things they do like.