What? No VP debate thread?

GameMaster · 10-02-2008, 10:07 PM

Wow, Bond must have had a lot homework tonight.

Anyways, I was really surprised how articulate both Palin and Biden were about not supporting gay marriage. What reason would anyone have for not supporting gay marriage? Aside from risking losing the rednecks' vote. And don't say religious beliefs. Anyone who places faith in a God that would discriminate one form of love and allow another is actually entrusting their faith in Satan.

Aside from that, both Biden and Palin are well prepared and doing an excellent job.

manasecret · 10-02-2008, 10:23 PM

I was excited to watch this debate. But about ten minutes in, I realized how pointless this debate is. It feels so obvious that Palin went to debate camp for a few days prior and is repeating whatever she was told, while Biden actually knows his bullshit inside out.

Yawn. At least they're really nice to each other. And I agree that they both had good, political answers on gay marriage.

GameMaster · 10-02-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by manasecret

It feels so obvious that Palin went to debate camp for a few days prior and is repeating whatever she was told, while Biden actually knows his bullshit inside out.

Agreed. In all her interviews prior to this she's been flustered and occasionally unable to answer a question.

Her trainers have been pounding those answers into her.

I still find myself sexually attracted to her though. Very cute.

Happydude · 10-02-2008, 10:43 PM

i was disappointed. Other than that bridge to no-where comment by Biden about 30 minutes in, the debate was boring.

Bond · 10-03-2008, 12:15 AM

Yeah, I had an Accounting midterm during the debate.

How was it? Hopefully CSPAN uploads it to YouTube.

TheGame · 10-03-2008, 01:16 AM

In my opinion Palin did better than expected, however it seemed obvious she had practiced for it and it didn't seem like a natural version of her. Its like she wasn't replying directly to Biden, she just took one key word or topic he'd mention and talked about it.

I think it was funny how she dissed the moderator for nobody laughing at her question.. especially when the crowd is supposed to be quiet, though they did make noise after she burned her. lol

TheGame · 10-03-2008, 01:48 AM

Just some other news today. Yup, Mccain's never a flip flopper.

Vampyr · 10-03-2008, 09:25 AM

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Just some other news today. Yup, Mccain's never a flip flopper.

I didn't watch that video, just commenting on your comment, but being a "flip flopper" is not a bad thing. Intelligent people change their minds when given new information.

Anywho, I think Biden won the debate. He didn't let up and really poured on the attacks. I don't think it was a failure for Palin, though, I think she really appealed to a lot of typical Americans. Not a game changing debate, though.

TheGame · 10-03-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr

I didn't watch that video, just commenting on your comment, but being a "flip flopper" is not a bad thing. Intelligent people change their minds when given new information.

I agree, I think being able to admit you're wrong about something is a good quality. But you should watch the video however.. Basically he votes yes for the bail out, and less than 24 hours later he commented that bush should veto it. If he truely had a change of heart that fast, that means he made an ill informed decision to begin with.

Its alomst like the republicans wanted the bill to pass, but also wanted to pin it on the democrats at the same time.

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Strangler's post wasn't there when I typed this one. Watch the wholeinterview that he has, but just keep in mind Mccain voted yes for the bill. I think he's admitting he followed his party even though he disagreed with it? Some Mavrick.

Professor S · 10-03-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGame

Just some other news today. Yup, Mccain's never a flip flopper.

I actually had a LONG post agreeing with you on this... but then I realized the clips were from Keith Olberman so I decided to fact chack it, and my hunch was correct, and McCain was taken SEVERELY out of context.

McCain's stance is that this bill was too important and timely to be held up because of arguments over pork, but OVERALL pork spending needs to be curtailed and vetoes used. He never asked Bush to veto THIS bill, in particular. I will agree that I believe McCain's answer was inartful, but it was NOT what Olberman attempted to portray it as. If you listen to the context, when McCain said "This bill puts us on the brink of disaster", is was an obvious misstatement. He meant to say that the reason he voted for this bill was because we are on the brink of disaster.

Here is an unedited version of the appeareance on Morning Joe, if anyone would like an unbiased view of the interview, where I think McCain actually came off quite well, but you might disagree and thats fine. But PLEASE don't take Keith Olberman's word for it...

By the way, someone needs to tell McCain to stop smiling. He's not a smiler.

GameMaster · 10-03-2008, 02:09 AM

Transcript

KillerGremlin · 10-03-2008, 03:26 AM

What a MILF!

mickydaniels · 10-03-2008, 08:22 AM

So, uh, where was Matt Gonzalez? Or Rosa Clemente?

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Wow, Bond must have had a lot homework tonight.

Anyways, I was really surprised how articulate both Palin and Biden were about not supporting gay marriage. What reason would anyone have for not supporting gay marriage? Aside from risking losing the rednecks' vote. And don't say religious beliefs. Anyone who places faith in a God that would discriminate one form of love and allow another is actually entrusting their faith in Satan.

Aside from that, both Biden and Palin are well prepared and doing an excellent job.

BreakABone · 10-03-2008, 10:15 AM

I thought the debate came off well. And personally speaking one of the first real debate we had in the last two elections as both engaged each other, they spoke about their messages while also questioning the other.

I don't know about the facts, but they both seemed well-verse. Though I felt Biden came off a bit more confident in himself and his party. Palin did not blow it like most people expected, and really why should she. These are pretty controlled debates.

thatmariolover · 10-03-2008, 10:48 AM

I enjoyed the debate a lot. I have not seen Joe Biden speak much in the past, and it was a very pleasant surprise.

Palin clearly showed a marked improvement, but everything she said felt memorized. She used the same phrases over and over, which is a common speech technique to imprint something, but in this case felt like more of a way of dissembling with rhetoric.

Biden on the other hand seemed very genuinely passionate about his answers. Not only did he explain how he felt about issues, he explained why he felt that way. It was very refreshing, and I felt like he was somebody I could vote for to be President. Which isn't something I've felt about past VP's.

All in all, I think a lot of ground was covered.