US Media Makes Me Ill - Page 3

Canyarion · 05-07-2004, 05:03 PM

Some of you people are really sick. There are things as war rules or something and they tell you that you're not allowed to torture prisoners.
But screw those rules, common sense should hold you from doing sadistic stuff like that.

If we let our soldiers do things like that...

Crono · 05-07-2004, 05:15 PM

I am not saying this in regards to anyone's posts, but just because I really feel like expressing my opinion on the matter.

I know we have freedom of speech in the West, but what really ticks me off is when people (especially.. actually, mainly) in Canada constantly cut down the U.S. and criticize their actions. I won't say any names, but some Canadians on this board are exactly like that.

I honestly feel that Canadians do not deserve to criticize the U.S. Had it not been for America in the first place, we'd probably have been absorbed into the Soviet Empire a long time ago. We rely heavily on the US for our economy. America is where we make our money, where our tourists come from, and who we depend on in times of need. If theres ever a crisis in Canada that requires international assistance, you can be guaranteed that the US will be the first there. We're American basically, seeing as our "culture" is really just American culture.

Yet many people that I know here will turn around and say "Oh I hate those ****ing Americans, what the ****, what the hell do they think they're doing?" and crap like that. They do not deserve that opinion.

So I try to figure out why some people here dislike America, and I can't seem to find the answer. And when you ask them, it's either "Americans are idiots", "Americans are rude", "Americans this", and "Americans that". Opinion maybe, but not enough fact or true reason.

I wish the Canadian government sent troops to Iraq, because if there's any country that should fight along side the U.S., it should be Canada. Sure, maybe we won't be THAT much help (then again, anyone besides Britain in Iraq right now isn't that much help, still good though), but, the U.S. has been a main factor in our country's life and survival, and we can at least owe them support when needed.

So anyway, basically... if you're Canadian, and you have nothing better to do than cut down the U.S., please... just shut up, for the sake of Canada's reputation.

Canyarion · 05-07-2004, 06:33 PM

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Rndm_Perfection · 05-07-2004, 07:07 PM

Oh man, I downloaded that song like... what, yesterday?

Typhoid · 05-07-2004, 07:29 PM

heh...ya good song...

And Strangler, i never said that Bush used WMD, just that he had them. I just find it slightly ironic that Bush is getting his panties in a bunch over Weapons of mass destruction, while he could blow the world up with a push of a button? Why have something like that at all? If the Iraqi's used a nuke or something, what are you gonna do? Nuke them back and screw up the world?

And i wasnt trying to speak for americans...i forgot to put the word "probably" in there.And i want to say, do you know why there are no (apparent) Canadian casualties? Because for the mostpart we are keeping out of something that isnt our business. I also never said that America tried not to kill civilians, i never said they bombed urban areas.

And about the pictures of the people doing those things to the Iraqis. I just have to sy, what is going through your head when you feel it necessary to put someone on a dog-leash and patrol them around naked?

Rndm_Perfection · 05-07-2004, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

And Strangler, i never said that Bush used WMD, just that he had them. I just find it slightly ironic that Bush is getting his panties in a bunch over Weapons of mass destruction, while he could blow the world up with a push of a button? Why have something like that at all? If the Iraqi's used a nuke or something, what are you gonna do? Nuke them back and screw up the world?

Damned hastily pathetic... and why I'm glad you're not in my nation, let alone a politician.

"getting his panties in a bunch over weapons of mass destruction"

Oh, you couldn't be more accurate about the concern of nuclear warheads and biological warfare. Oh, no, there's no problem with them at all.

Why does the United States of America have nukes? Because USSR started stockpiling with them. USSR was seen as a hostile, and there was no way to know how readily they'd be used. One nation... having enough warheads to destroy all others? The US of A was needed to counterbalance, which is why people like you believe one nuke equals the end of the world; and that belief is exactly what was necessary to keep the war cold.

Nukes don't exactly have the ability to blow up a country... they blow up a 2-mile-ish radius (probably bigger after the "improvements" though). Traditional firebombing, but in larger quanitites, has the same destructive power (in terms of the ability to take out a city). The "big militaries" have the ability to take out a city if they wanted to... but have you seen that happen recently?

If the United States wanted to use a nuke to destroy cities, they would. Obviously, they haven't. If you want an excuse for the Japanese nukes, do some research and read a god damn book or get into a world history class. There are more than enough excuses. And, let's not mention that the same magnitude of damage had been done to Tokyo in firebombings before, but no uproar was heard. Nukes were a new weapon.

Why would we not want hostiles to have a nuke? Why would the police officers not want to have a convict to have an assault rifle? The United States intentions with their nukes have been observed. Who does the US of A hate? Nations that hate the United States. Who's trying to get nukes? Nations that hate the United States. I wonder why in all that is sensible would the United States not want them to have nukes?

Don't throw rocks at the bear... I thought people knew why that sign was at the zoo. The bear's just doing his business.

Typhoid · 05-07-2004, 08:03 PM

So are you comparing the United states to the Police, and the other countries as Convicts...or is the United States thr bear? im confused..

Maybe the "Hostile" countries want Nukes for the same reason America does. To protect themselves against hostiles. Im saying maybe, so dont reem me out on this one, im not saying every nation that has nukes will not use them on their own people, im not saying the cold war should have gone on longer, or shorter.

And how would me being an American change anything? You said your glad im not in your nation...i dont see how that is relevent to anything either. Since you said that then im glad your not in MY nation, let alone a politician. I wouldnt want Canada to be filled up with nukes and whatnot.

And im not trying to portray hate amongst America the country or its people, i have no problem with it or them. Its just a select few people i dont like, by the way they act. Such as is in other country's and my own.

(And the zoo signs in Canada say dont feed the bear...you can throw rocks at it all you want..its just common sense most people ,ie. "not me" have.)

And if you were referring to America as a Bear......i think Canada would probably be a Duck....or a Racoon...And if America was the Police then i think Canada would be the Cameraman from COPS...

Bond · 05-07-2004, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Its just a select few people i dont like, by the way they act. Such as is in other country's and my own.

Yes, but America is targeted more often than "those countries" because we are the only world power. So you can understand how it becomes rather tiresome to hear this same thing over and over again.

Typhoid · 05-07-2004, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

because we are the only world power.

i wouldnt go as far to say that America is the only world power....maybe the only Major world power...

Crono · 05-07-2004, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

i wouldnt go as far to say that America is the only world power....maybe the only Major world power...

US not the only world power? No offense... but are you on crack? Name ONE country that can match the US.

Crono · 05-07-2004, 08:15 PM

Sorry for the double post, but let's see:
China - large numbers, but they're really weaker than you think. Besides, once their government falls it'll all be gone.
Russia - LOL. No comment.
India - Meh, they're not bad. Worse than China, but still good. Not many technological advancements here. They have nukes however.
Britain - They're small. Not as big and as advanced as the US.

The U.S. is the super power. The technology it's army has is well beyond any other army in the world.

Typhoid · 05-07-2004, 08:16 PM

Japan?...and are you solely basing this on military or something?....and ya....rofl at Russia

(and just think how much better the American economy would/could be if they cut off a few "bucks" a year from military and put it into other things, like school, or healthcare..)

Crono · 05-07-2004, 08:19 PM

Japan is nothing. They have potential but their constitution limits their abilities, by a long shot. When we think of Japan, we think of cutesy anime characters, nothing "strong" about that.

And yes this is based on current military power.

In fact, Japan is so weak right now, I'd go as far as saying that Canada would probably have a good chance at winning if they both faced each other without other armies joining in.

Bond · 05-07-2004, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

(and just think how much better the American economy would/could be if they cut off a few "bucks" a year from military and put it into other things, like school, or healthcare..)

We've already been over this... 3.2% of our GDP is spent on the military. North Korea is 33.9% and China is 4.3%.

Rndm_Perfection · 05-07-2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

(and just think how much better the American economy would/could be if they cut off a few "bucks" a year from military and put it into other things, like school, or healthcare..)

And just think how much better America would be if it didn't continually pump the world with aid... yes, aid... some loans, but indeed aid.

The United States would be a lot better if it shut out the rest of the world, sat in its corner, and made its people happy... yes, and to further make its people happy, it'd cut off immigration. Our military would be downsized...

And what happens then? The United States and all of its allies get invaded. Oh, but not before all of the nations cry out that the US of A is hoarding its riches.

Read the Bum thread if you want to see people's sympathy for those who genuinely have it bad.